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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: FrancisAnn on March 30, 2013, 04:47:22 AM

Title: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: FrancisAnn on March 30, 2013, 04:47:22 AM
On & off HRT numerous times in my life. Resuming soon. Why should I wait any longer to remove all the wrong T hormones?

Mid 50's, passable, full time some, feminine to all now, always a nice woman, always will be. Nothing to hide, no reason to look back. Surely this simple step would help HRT & eliminate T blocker drugs.

Any actual real life experiences and or advice is greatly appreciated.

I was close to this step a year or so ago & for whatever reason I did not follow thru, now it just seems obvious.

Sincere thanks girl friends for any advise and or help?
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: A on March 30, 2013, 10:20:50 AM
The only reasons I can see against it are:

-Fear of getting a scar in the wrong place that would be a pain for the SRS surgeon. (Can be avoided by going to any surgeon having ever done a "SRS-friendly" orchi.)
-Not being worth it. If your anti-androgens are doing their job really well and are not having any notable side effects, you might think hurting down there for days/weeks and doing the surgery and all is not worth it. That, or you might think that if it's going to be removed during SRS anyway, why suffer twice?

That's all I see.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on March 30, 2013, 10:41:45 AM
not knowing when or if I will ever have SRS, I oped for an orchi.  I am glad I did.  Less medication to take and reduced risks.  Tucking is a lot better.  And the biggest plus, no T.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: kathy bottoms on March 30, 2013, 11:09:24 AM
Already talked to my Endo about it a month ago, and have to discuss it with the therapist when she gets back from sick leave.  Planning for it this fall if all works out. 

If you want it, or need to eliminate the pills for your health, go for it. 
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: LilDevilOfPrada on March 30, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
Main reason behind is, over time you skin will apperntly shrink and if done a certain way may cause there to again be less tissue for your SRS. Thats the main reason.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: A on March 30, 2013, 07:44:47 PM
Bleh, not really. You can always stretch, anyway.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: JohnnieRamona on March 30, 2013, 09:34:18 PM
I'm thinking about getting an orchi at some point myself. I'm not very interested in getting SRS, personally... But the pros of getting an orchi are very appealing to me.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Aleah on March 31, 2013, 12:08:06 AM
The main reason I never considered it is because Dr. Suporn's technique doesn't recommend it, the results are apparently better without one.

Since Spiro does good enough job of keeping T down, I don't see the need for extra surgery and getting a good SRS result for me is very important.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Hideyoshi on March 31, 2013, 10:11:36 PM
A reason I would think would be if one develops a clotting disorder, and can no longer take E, that one's bones would wither away. 
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: A on March 31, 2013, 10:17:32 PM
I'm sure there are people who don't produce hormones and can't have them replaced whose bones don't wither away. There's surely a way around this.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on March 31, 2013, 11:09:48 PM
 I may have an orchie soon, myself, if I see that I won't be getting SRS for a number of years. I don't tend to think that having spiro in your body for 4+ years is very healthy, and health is a higher priority than depth.

The downside is that it's surgery, and that it costs money. The material may shrink, or become unusable, but this can be avoided with proper technique and stretching.

Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: LizMarie on April 01, 2013, 02:55:49 PM
It's been said earlier, but to repeat, if you consider having an orchiectomy, consult with whomever you currently consider as your most likely SRS surgeon and ask them for advice. Some, like Dr. McGinn, will even provide diagrams to the surgeon performing the orchi so that minimal damage is done in anticipation of SRS later.

Even if you do not plan to do SRS, you should still do this, just in case you change your mind. There's no point in making things harder on yourself than need be when you don't know how you'll feel about it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Rita on April 01, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
I am just saving up for SRS, but the risks of medication are creeping up on my psyche.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Sweet_Steffy_Bee on April 01, 2013, 05:34:06 PM
I had half a one..

Sweet lady Cancer took one from me. It was like a bittersweet kind of thing..

Sweet it happened and had to be removed, but bitter because it was just one..

When I found out, it was so messed up.. Betrayed by a part of my body I never wanted in the first place!

I am glad someone brought this up. I was curious about it myself. I was also hoping tearing down one of my testosterone factories would also drop those levels in my body.. Just cautious optimism here..
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: amani on April 01, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
Quote from: Hideyoshi on March 31, 2013, 10:11:36 PM
A reason I would think would be if one develops a clotting disorder, and can no longer take E, that one's bones would wither away.

The amount of E required for maintaining bone health is much less than what is required for HRT.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Maegan on April 02, 2013, 06:09:51 AM
Getting an orchi was the best thing I've done. Mentally, the changes were huge! I also do not know when I will have SRS.

Tucking is a breeze now, and I have less pills to swallow every day.

To all the girls considering having an orchi - It is worth it.

Huggs

Maegan
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on April 02, 2013, 06:22:58 AM
Quote from: Maegan on April 02, 2013, 06:09:51 AM
Tucking is a breeze now, and I have less pills to swallow every day.

To all the girls considering having an orchi - It is worth it.


So, for the tucking part... did you get to keep the extra downstairs skin? Are there any special measures that you still have to take in order to tuck - as in, underwear of a certain tightness? Is tucking noticeably more comfortable?



Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: kathy bottoms on April 02, 2013, 08:56:11 AM
Quote from: Maegan on April 02, 2013, 06:09:51 AM
Getting an orchi was the best thing I've done. Mentally, the changes were huge! I also do not know when I will have SRS.

Tucking is a breeze now, and I have less pills to swallow every day.

To all the girls considering having an orchi - It is worth it.

Huggs

Maegan

Maegan: That's what I wanted to hear from someone.  Frankly, those T-makers annoy the hell out of me, force me to take a lot of spiro, and get painful once in a while.  Making them go away has nothing but a good side from this girls point of view.  To bad the twig can't be taken away with the berries in September.  Ahhh...just a couple years to go.

Kathy
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Maegan on April 02, 2013, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: Kelly J. P. on April 02, 2013, 06:22:58 AM
So, for the tucking part... did you get to keep the extra downstairs skin? Are there any special measures that you still have to take in order to tuck - as in, underwear of a certain tightness? Is tucking noticeably more comfortable?

Yip, the extra downstairs skin stays. ( May need it later! ) I've been on E for just over a year now, so the twig has sort of "wilted away", if you know what I mean. So, to answer your question, no, I don't need any thing tighter. Strange, I would not really call it "tucking" anymore seeing that there isn't much to tuck. Yes, waaaay more comfy!

Quote from: kathy b on April 02, 2013, 08:56:11 AM
Making them go away has nothing but a good side from this girls point of view. 

Having them gone is the best ever!! Be patient sis, the twig withers away eventually. You having an orchi in September?

Huggs

Maegan
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on April 02, 2013, 10:31:34 AM
Quote from: Kelly J. P. on April 02, 2013, 06:22:58 AM
So, for the tucking part... did you get to keep the extra downstairs skin? Are there any special measures that you still have to take in order to tuck - as in, underwear of a certain tightness? Is tucking noticeably more comfortable?

I will answer that one.  The extra skin just molds itself to your groin.  And the twig, as Kathy says, jsut acts like a turtle and hides nicely. One or two sizes small in your panties will hold things in place.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on April 02, 2013, 09:11:08 PM
 Well, I ask because I think I arrange myself differently than many people tend to, with the "twig" facing upward, rather than downward. I have to wonder if the alternative would become more comfortable after the operation.

I will note that I have not experienced much "withering". I'm grateful for this, but tucking is certainly more of an ordeal than I would like it to be - so I prefer to avoid it, for comfort's sake. Long shirts really help, and they're adorable on smaller people.
Title: Re: Why not have orcie procedure first?
Post by: FrancisAnn on April 02, 2013, 09:32:11 PM
Thank you to all girl friends.

Live would sure be great with those things removed, I've never had any real reason for them anyway. I do so hope one day to have SRS & just hopefully become normal with maybe decent depth even though my thing is small.

Just normal sex with a man & a normal life would be so great/normal.

My sincere best to all you friends.

Francis