Hi all
I haven't been here in a long time...I always have absences. But since I've been here last time, I have taken a month long trip to London and have now started testosterone. I am coming up on my fourth shot. I also have my gender changed to M on my State ID and soon my birth certificate will be changed too
Now..I have a question. I have been off of my birth control for a few months. My SO is coming to visit me at the first of May. He is biologically Male. Now that I am on the testosterone, I am trying to find a birth control that will not decrease the effects of the testosterone. I was hoping maybe you guys could help me out?
And please do not suggest condoms. It goes against my beliefs and I will never use them no matter what
Please tell me what you know....I really don't want to go on a pill if it's going to decrease the testosterone. Any ideas?
And I'm open to any type of contraceptive as long as it's not a barrier. Patches, shots, ect. I can't afford an IUD so that is out...
So I guess I'm asking...is there any oral contraceptive out there that will not affect my testosterone?
There is no pill that I know of that would be considered effective with less than one month of use.
Edit to add: scratch that. Some pills can take up to a month to be effective. A progesterone based pill might work but might cause mood swings. I would just talk to a doctor.
depo provera is the one my doctor has me on
I am a little confused here, and sorry for asking this in your thread, but....
Doesn't T stop ovulation? It does stop horror week, and I always kinda assumed that also meant you would not ovulate anymore. But now I haz a confused!
Quote from: Mr.X on April 07, 2013, 09:29:08 AM
I am a little confused here, and sorry for asking this in your thread, but....
Doesn't T stop ovulation? It does stop horror week, and I always kinda assumed that also meant you would not ovulate anymore. But now I haz a confused!
It does stop ovulation and menstruation, but rarely immediately. It can take up to six months or sometimes even longer for ovulation to cease.
Quote from: Nygeel on April 07, 2013, 07:52:09 AM
There is no pill that I know of that would be considered effective with less than one month of use.
we got 1 kind of pill here in Denmark but I dont know what its called in English. You take the pill after max 75 hours and as faster as better since the effect goes down quickly.
however, as I heard its not recomended for everyday use as it should be pretty unhelathy so you only use it for "emergencys situations where you forgot protections it has the homones Progestogen so I dont think it would be good for transmen without being sure of the effect.
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Quote from: Mr.X on April 07, 2013, 09:29:08 AM
I am a little confused here, and sorry for asking this in your thread, but....
Doesn't T stop ovulation? It does stop horror week, and I always kinda assumed that also meant you would not ovulate anymore. But now I haz a confused!
yes in general, but it also diffrent from each person how big the effect are. I wont say T makes you 100% stelized nessesarry, so people should still be carefull just to be sure even when the chance of pregnacy when your on T fall pretty much.
Quote from: Walter on April 07, 2013, 06:26:34 AM
And please do not suggest condoms. It goes against my beliefs and I will never use them no matter what
Please tell me what you know....I really don't want to go on a pill if it's going to decrease the testosterone. Any ideas?
I can only think of condoms or Femidom as suchs metodes who donsnt disturd homones, then you can be sterilized but thats sure also a handfull.
and theres natural cycles" about having sex at the right times with less chance of pregnacy but I wont recomend that as it seams very much of a gambling.
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I guess your probably to get some pills who will have homones, so your are just to figure out which work together with what, I dont think you nessesarry get a clear answar on that from here but its something you should discus with your doctor.
like the metode for T is diffrent on each person its should also be diffrent which metode who would work with you, like Depro vera ex I heard both good and bad for using or not using it.
Quote from: Mr.X on April 07, 2013, 09:29:08 AM
I am a little confused here, and sorry for asking this in your thread, but....
Doesn't T stop ovulation? It does stop horror week, and I always kinda assumed that also meant you would not ovulate anymore. But now I haz a confused!
There have been cases of trans men getting pregnant even though they're on T. There was one case a couple of years ago where a couple had a natural child although they were a trans man and trans woman and had both been on their hormones for years.
There's no form of birth control where there is a 100% chance of it working. The pill my mother was on had a 1-in-100 failure rate, she'd been taking it for years, and I'm still here. Even barrier methods aren't completely successful every time, especially if they aren't used perfectly.
When I was with a MAAB person I was hyper aware of the chance of pregnancy, and made them use extra thick condoms despite them probably having a tiny sperm count. Actually, that said, their MAAB parent had a sperm count of 0 and still created them.
Is abortion/the "morning after pill" on your cards? Because if it's not I would really be considering other methods of sex than PIV because nothing is foolproof, especially if birth control isn't being used for a long period of time like Nygeel said. And there are other ways of sex which are equally as fun...
You could try getting your partner to take estrogen and spiro. I've heard that can have the desired effect (among others)...
Quote from: Walter on April 07, 2013, 06:26:34 AM
And please do not suggest condoms. It goes against my beliefs and I will never use them no matter what
That's interesting, i've never heard that before. Are you against him pulling out?
Quote from: mangoslayer on April 07, 2013, 11:46:45 AM
That's interesting, i've never heard that before. Are you against him pulling out?
The pull-out method doesn't always work seeing as how you can still get pregnant from precum, even though the chances are incredibly low.
Walter,
If you aren't wanting to actually go on a shot or pill form of birth control; there are also spermicidal inserts that you can use. You can pick up a brand called VCF at walgreens, rite aid, walmart etc. They come in a paper like insert that you fold and insert up there, or a foam, or an actual gel that you insert through a tampon like thing. Everyone that I've known to use them has said they are effective but it does give you % on the box. They are cheap and if you are only needing something short term while your SO visits this might be a good option for you. Good luck
Running down a list of options. Earlier I posted via phone so I couldn't type out much.
With hormonal contraceptives there's usually a possibility of it messing with T or the effects of T. Getting a shot would be more effective but if you have negative side effects then you're stuck with those negative side effects for three months (usually). Birth control pills typically say you can have sex after a week, however they are usually considered effective when used as directed after a month.
Spermicide is a possibility but a lot of people I know who have used it have had a reaction. It's possible that you will have something similar happen. There's the possibility of something small like minor irritation or something major. You could also use spermicide in combination with other birth control methods to decrease the likeliness of something happening.
Abstaining from PIV sex. There are other options of stimulation that feel good that aren't PIV. Frotting, anal, mutual masturbation, oral....etc.
Pulling out by itself is around 17% effective which isn't so great when compared against other prevention methods.
Emergency contraception will work, but the more often you use it the less effective it is. And you have to use it very very soon after having sex. It will prevent implantation for up to 72 hours. Because it's a very concentrated hormonal pill the likeliness of having side effects is higher than with other hormonal birth control methods.
Testosterone can cause sterility but it's unknown how long after being on testosterone that might happen.
Quote from: Natkat on April 07, 2013, 11:06:37 AM
we got 1 kind of pill here in Denmark but I dont know what its called in English. You take the pill after max 75 hours and as faster as better since the effect goes down quickly.
however, as I heard its not recomended for everyday use as it should be pretty unhelathy so you only use it for "emergencys situations where you forgot protections it has the homones Progestogen so I dont think it would be good for transmen without being sure of the effect.
thats called the plan B or the morning after pill in the good ol USA. my friend has used it once as the condom broke. just wondering why are birth control pills not against your beliefs but condoms are?
Quote from: ZoeM on April 07, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
You could try getting your partner to take estrogen and spiro. I've heard that can have the desired effect (among others)...
So you are suggesting that the OP get his partner, who based on the language in the post is male and identifies as such, to take female hormones (which btw there is no guarantee a male taking those is going to become sterile)?
Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on April 07, 2013, 06:33:26 PM
So you are suggesting that the OP get his partner, who based on the language in the post is male and identifies as such, to take female hormones (which btw there is no guarantee a male taking those is going to become sterile)?
I never said it was a serious plan. :|
Pull out is NOT a good idea, esp as birth control!!!!!
Google this.
--Jay
Quote from: ZoeM on April 07, 2013, 06:40:42 PM
I never said it was a serious plan. :|
Or a good one lol
I'm also thinking that the pull out method might also be against the OP's beliefs. I don't know what they are, but I know some Jewish people are open to the usage of birth control but not barriers because of the part in the Bible where someone was killed for "spilling their seed upon the ground", so it could be the same, or similar, deal here. It's not recommended anywhere either because it doesn't work effectively at all anyway.
It's more likely that a person doesn't want to use condoms because of the feeling, or having a latex allergy over anything else.
Quote from: Nygeel on April 07, 2013, 08:19:58 PM
It's more likely that a person doesn't want to use condoms because of the feeling, or having a latex allergy over anything else.
True, but the wording in this post doesn't suggest that is so.
There's always abstinence or as AlexanderC suggested earlier non-vaginal intercourse.
Quote from: ZoeM on April 07, 2013, 06:40:42 PM
I never said it was a serious plan. :|
Why even suggest it then? If you were trying for a joke, that wasn't funny.
The first thing that I thought of was an estrogen blocker and because estrogen is so crucial to getting and staying pregnant that without ANY, it's simply not possible.
Also, never, ever mix birth control pills and T. Cardiovascular events are extremely likely in that scenario (and they're already increased by the BCP's themselves) and so just don't even go there. It's risky enough just starting on the T with your own hormones initially fighting it. Synthetic hormones fighting synthetic hormones, forever? Even more risky. I don't feel as though my Endo was joking around when he told me that himself before my first shot... really.
I'd even be leery of the Progesterone-only contraceptives. If there's too much (which obviously there would be with the contraceptive methods using it) you would actually be increasing the estrogen rather than decreasing it (whether your own body's production, if it is still making its own, or else through the aromatase conversion of T to E).
But, there's virtually no risk at all of any negatives with E-blockers while on T. At least not anything that would be against what you said you were looking to avoid. But of course, you'd need to speak with a doctor (GYN or Endo).
Ok, this is a delayed response, but I'm going to reply
First....I am not going to publicly say why condoms are out of the question. But I will rule out allergies or any of the "main" reasons people don't use them. Mine goes a little deeper than that and I have not had anything but ridicule for it. So unless I know I'm not going to be told what a piece of sh*t I am, I won't say it
I just got the depo shot. The Dr. told me that it won't interfere with my T. They wanted to originally put me on an IUD but....no. Just no. Too much pain, and I've heard that it can be "felt" during intercourse...so no. In a couple weeks I'm going to be getting a blood test...they're going to check my Testosterone levels to heighten my dose. I'll ask them to check to make sure the Depo isn't interfering
My SO can't go on any hormones that would lessen the chances of pregnancy because....well...he's not really up for that. And I can understand
I know of an FtM in my town who has been on the depo shot for seven years and his T worked just fine....he's been on the depo longer than he has been on T. So....I'm not too worried. But I will still have the Dr. check to make sure nothing's happening