Simple question...do you have to hate/dislike your "lower" parts in order to be trans?
Thanks,
-Skye
I don't think that's a requirement, its just a common side effect of gender dysphoria.
...I really don't like to take my pants off >.<
I have body dysphoria, but I'm pretty much fine with my "lower" parts...well at least as long as a guy isn't touching them...unless he saw me as female it might be okay...
Although I would probably prefer to have female lower parts...srs is not a major priority on my list...although I do admit that this could change when I start transitioning...assuming I can fully get over my doubts about me possibly not being trans...
I don't hate my male parts, just wish they were female parts.
But given what I have, I enjoy them best I can.
I think the important thing to remember is that everyone experiences dysphoria differently, and even if you don't have the textbook definition of dysphoria in your life, you can still be trans. Everyone has a different narrative, and the nature of the beast is that you and only you can make that decision.
Personally, I have no feelings whatsoever towards my bits. They just are. I can see that changing once I start HRT, and things start to become more of a nuisance, but at this point there's really only one person in my life who ever goes where the sun doesn't shine and she's rather fond of the darn things.
I be rid of mine is a flash.
But you seem perfectly OK to me and I'm pretty sure many others are the same as you.
At the end of the day, the objective is to feel happy, not to satisfy any criteria.
Quote from: spacial on April 09, 2013, 11:35:37 AM
I be rid of mine is a flash.
But you seem perfectly OK to me and I'm pretty sure many others are the same as you.
At the end of the day, the objective is to feel happy, not to satisfy any criteria.
Yeah...I'm still in doubt about me being trans...It's really difficult for me to accept. Even though almost everything points to the fact that I must be trans...
I just can't seem to separate trans stereotypes from reality...well maybe some of them.
I don't dislike my lower parts and I'm not even sure I would trade them in if a fairy godfather came along and waved me an insta-penis.
Quote from: Not-so Fat Admin on April 09, 2013, 11:47:55 AM
I don't dislike my lower parts and I'm not even sure I would trade them in if a fairy godfather came along and waved me an insta-penis.
Rofl...I can picture it now...
(In the realm of bioshock)
The insta penis/vagina get yours now!!! As advertised on tv, Andrew Ryan approved!!!
Sorry lol...fantasy world with bio-engineering and all that jazz aside...
Yeah...I'm sort of in the middle because I'm Pansexual so I have a fully functional strap-on, but it would be really weird (< the best way I can describe it) to have my lower parts while being with a guy...If I had the choice I would probably have both...
I'd hate to see how many big daddy's you'd have to kill to get that plasmid ._.
Quote from: NicholeD on April 09, 2013, 12:04:01 PM
I'd hate to see how many big daddy's you'd have to kill to get that plasmid ._.
I'd rather be a big sister :P
Then I could just harvest adam from splicers.
I don't think you need to have dysphoria about your junk to be trans. I have zero problems with mine, though I still want to get SRS. It's just never bothered me that much. A lot of people here don't have problems with their's either when looking at the number of people with children. Well, maybe they have problems with it but not enough not to use it.
Nah I don't think so. I've seen trans people who downright love their junk, so I hardly think of it as a condition for being trans.
Ive always hated my "equipment". But on a normal day I dont even realize they are there.
You know the only time I appreciate mine.
You feel the need to go, very strong. You take a look inside the only public toilets for miles around and they are so disgusting as to be artwork.
Then I think, well, it's had its uses.
(Happened once in an African Market, which was in the centre of the town. I later discovered that most went round the corner to where a small waste canal ran, males and females. But at the time, I was too fearful to be arrested).
Quote from: Not-so Fat Admin on April 09, 2013, 11:47:55 AM
I'm not even sure I would trade them in if a fairy godfather came along and waved me an insta-penis.
Now, why don't I believe that? :eusa_liar: :laugh:
Quote from: Maegan on April 10, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Not-so Fat Admin on April 09, 2013, 11:47:55 AM
I would trade them in if a fairy godfather came along and waved me an insta-penis.
Now, why don't I believe that? :eusa_liar:
No, really. :laugh: I've had this thing too long to let go of it. Kinda partial to it. :laugh:
I've personally always hated mine, and wanted them gone ever since the damned things started growing beyond childhood proportions in the first place. I still hate them, but at least I don't have to worry about spontaneous erections anymore thanks to HRT. I HATE, HATE, HATE those.
Even if I wasn't transitioning, I'd still want them gone. Which is actually why I was a member of the Eunuch Archive in the first place... because there was indeed a very long time where I wasn't allowing myself to embrace my trans thoughts, but because my physical dysphoria with my "lower" body was still so strong, I fantasized about being nullified instead.
With that said, though, no. There is absolutely no requirement that you dislike your lower parts in order to be transsexual. Many don't mind them whatsoever, many don't want to go through the hassle of surgery, many don't feel like it's important enough, many are afraid of regrets, and all of those are perfectly fine. Having a vagina or a penis is not what makes you a woman or a man. And hell, there are even some men who are not transsexual in the least, but still do feel this lower dysphoria and want to be castrated/penectomized. Even some who want a vagina but to remain presenting as male, because they are not transsexual. (The "mangina" man. Yes, he does exist.) One's physical body and one's gender identity are two completely independent variables, and all are spread across a very wide spectrum.
Hmm... 'hate' is a very strong adjective. I wouldn't say I 'hate' my penis - it does make me rather uncomfortable, and I'd much rather have different parts, but I couldn't say I outright 'hate' it. I just think of a penis as being a larger version of a clitoris tbh...
I hate every single part of my body actually, and occasionally its not even for all the pain related reasons.
Heck my gender based reasons need to accept that the line for hate is a long one.
I hate a lot of me for a lot of reasons. Usually it is my feet I hate. Often it is my neck at the back I hate. I spend a lot of time hating my knees too. And I have 3 differing reasons for those three parts too.
The only reason I hate my sex organs, is they are spoiled brat acting most of the time. It doesn't cause me pain per se, it's just annoying. Like a problem teenager eh :)
Oh sure I'd like to be in a real female body, right up till menstruation I suppose :)
In the grand scheme of hating things about my body, the dangly bits rate no where near the top. We've had a lot of great times together. Sure, I'd rather not have them if I had a choice, but not hate them. There are far far more important things that I do not like that keep me from being the woman I dreamed of being. Panty checks aren't even a blip on that radar.
Yet, at the end of the day, even with all the low self esteem deficiencies I see when I look in the mirror, I still achieved my dream and experienced the joy of being seen as and accepted as a woman.
Quote from: JoanneB on April 10, 2013, 09:43:55 PM
In the grand scheme of hating things about my body, the dangly bits rate no where near the top. We've had a lot of great times together. Sure, I'd rather not have them if I had a choice, but not hate them. There are far far more important things that I do not like that keep me from being the woman I dreamed of being. Panty checks aren't even a blip on that radar.
Yet, at the end of the day, even with all the low self esteem deficiencies I see when I look in the mirror, I still achieved my dream and experienced the joy of being seen as and accepted as a woman.
True. And there are far more things to being trans than genitals.
Sure I guess in a basic way, being transsexual literally implies changing genitals. But I count myself lucky I'm fine with mine as is and don't have to go through painful and expensive surgery.
If you don't have lower dysphoria, it just means you have one less thing to worry about!
Quote from: Not-so Fat Admin on April 11, 2013, 02:24:52 AM
True. And there are far more things to being trans than genitals.
Sure I guess in a basic way, being transsexual literally implies changing genitals. But I count myself lucky I'm fine with mine as is and don't have to go through painful and expensive surgery.
If you don't have lower dysphoria, it just means you have one less thing to worry about!
I need one less thing to be stressed about, since everything else just generally sucks...so that's a positive I guess.
Quote from: Sky-Blue on April 09, 2013, 09:27:27 AM
Simple question...do you have to hate/dislike your "lower" parts in order to be trans?
*waves* Hi. Zero bottom dysphoria over here. None at all. I don't think I'd change my bits if you paid me. And I'm definitely trans.
While I would agree the level of dysphoria varies from person to person, the lower body definitely makes me dysphoric. I even feel the missing organ, making this all so very weird at times. I wonder whether this is normal and anybody else too experiences the same. :-\
I don't love my genitalia, but I can't say I hate them either. They're ugly, but useful. The way I see it, "wrong parts is better than no parts." While if given a choice I'd prefer to have a vagina, I can live with what I've got. At least for the time being, anyway.
I don't think lower body dysphoria is not of being trans.
I think you gotta do what is best for you. If that means feeling that you may or may not be trans is perfectly ok. There are people out there who do not label themselves as any gender yet like having breasts, and well dangly bits lol. Or even vica versa. As long as it's what makes you happy, I think that is what's important.
Quote from: Jerred1985 on April 13, 2013, 10:40:14 PM
I think you gotta do what is best for you. If that means feeling that you may or may not be trans is perfectly ok. There are people out there who do not label themselves as any gender yet like having breasts, and well dangly bits lol. Or even vica versa. As long as it's what makes you happy, I think that is what's important.
It's like I'm almost completely sure I'm trans...it's just that because I don't have a lot of the same experiences as other trans people, I doubt myself...
I've kind of been thinking about what you said...like I had figured it out awhile ago. But I still have trouble accepting that I'm trans.
Quote from: Sky-Blue on April 14, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
Quote from: Jerred1985 on April 13, 2013, 10:40:14 PM
I think you gotta do what is best for you. If that means feeling that you may or may not be trans is perfectly ok. There are people out there who do not label themselves as any gender yet like having breasts, and well dangly bits lol. Or even vica versa. As long as it's what makes you happy, I think that is what's important.
It's like I'm almost completely sure I'm trans...it's just that because I don't have a lot of the same experiences as other trans people, I doubt myself...
I've kind of been thinking about what you said...like I had figured it out awhile ago. But I still have trouble accepting that I'm trans.
People deal with things differently. No two people ever handle the same situation in the exact same way. Something that bothers one person may not bother someone else. Why is it we accept this except when it comes to trans stuff?
And two people could be born the exact same way, with the same 'trans degree of severity' if you believe in such things - and because of different experiences and environments deal with it in different ways. Remember, everything doesn't come down to nature. Nurture counts for something.
Quote from: Not-so Fat Admin on April 14, 2013, 10:52:16 AM
People deal with things differently. No two people ever handle the same situation in the exact same way. Something that bothers one person may not bother someone else. Why is it we accept this except when it comes to trans stuff?
And two people could be born the exact same way, with the same 'trans degree of severity' if you believe in such things - and because of different experiences and environments deal with it in different ways. Remember, everything doesn't come down to nature. Nurture counts for something.
And it seems like to me...I dealt with it by pretending to be someone else and denying who I really was until she was pushed into my unconscious mind...at which point she was released because she fell in love and I had a few drinks...
That's pretty much what I THINK happened, but I could just be making it up (the "unconscious part")...I don't know it just sounds to fantastical for me to fully believe. But it's the only explanation that would make sense for her to randomly appear in my life much later than most people know.