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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: AlexisB on April 13, 2013, 07:04:55 PM

Title: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: AlexisB on April 13, 2013, 07:04:55 PM
Not asking for scientific expectations or general sayings, i.e. "Hormones or the absence of testosterone do not make a voice higher"
Just looking for personal experiences, if you're voice has gotten less low or higher or more female basically, comment please :)
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: ZoeM on April 13, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
Sorry - I'm afraid you've gotta work at it.

A couple of us have naturally high voices, but for the rest of us, expect six months of practice to get things right, and even then it may not be perfect.
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: XchristineX on April 14, 2013, 04:37:53 PM
I wish voice pitch surgery had better chances...
I would be like doctor!!!! Raise me half an octave!!!!
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on April 14, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
 Well, one's voice shouldn't be affected by female hormones. I have experienced things here and there that make me believe that hormones might make one's female voice easier to use, once mastered, but I can't even try to back those experiences up with evidence.

Practice makes perfect. Many factors go into how long it takes you to find your voice, but it takes a while of daily use before it settles in as natural. To make it to the point where the male voice is the difficult one to use is the extremely exciting, and totally achievable, end-goal - and it takes about half a year, on average, to accomplish.
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: Silvrnite on April 14, 2013, 08:53:40 PM
Quote from: Kelly J. P. on April 14, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
  Practice makes perfect. Many factors go into how long it takes you to find your voice, but it takes a while of daily use before it settles in as natural. To make it to the point where the male voice is the difficult one to use is the extremely exciting, and totally achievable, end-goal - and it takes about half a year, on average, to accomplish.
been using my female voice since i was like 20 or so, 28 now and i couldnt get my old voice to come out even if i am TRYING to use it.
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: Kelly J. P. on April 15, 2013, 01:38:55 AM
Quote from: Silvrnite on April 14, 2013, 08:53:40 PM
been using my female voice since i was like 20 or so, 28 now and i couldnt get my old voice to come out even if i am TRYING to use it.

It's been almost a couple years for me. Admittedly, I haven't tried in a long while, but I'm sure I could still do it, since I regularly use many different voices (my Yoda is a little out of practice, though).
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: NJade on April 15, 2013, 10:35:58 AM
I occasionally try to do a deep, "manly" voice for my spouse, but she just laughs at me and tells me I sound like a woman trying to do a deep manly voice.

That comes from work. So much of transition is simply that, work. Hormones will help with some things, but not most things in terms of your presentation. I had a very good vocal coach along with being a teacher of performers. Don't just work with recorded coaches. Find someone who can help you tune yourself.
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: Carrie Liz on April 15, 2013, 10:54:47 AM
Actually, I have experienced some slight (albeit very subtle) changes. And I can see these changes just by comparing my "guy voice" now versus my "guy voice" in my pre-hormone videos. In the pre-hormone videos, my voice had a lot more of a booming quality to it. It was more powerful. But now, I can't quite match that same sort of power anymore. It sounds a bit softer. And if I speak in my "guy voice" for too long, it starts getting tired.

Again, subtle changes, but changes nonetheless.

In regards to the opening question, about a voice "un-breaking," and going back to the pitch and tone that it had as a child... no, that will not happen. Once the throat has expanded to adult male proportions, which involves lengthening of bone and cartilage, it will not be able to ever go back to the way that it was. The muscles, however, can indeed change. And you can indeed "train" them through vocal exercises to be able to speak in that same range again, despite the deeper range and deeper resonance still being there.
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: Rita on April 15, 2013, 03:36:07 PM
you'de be surprised how powerful your mind is.  I walk more feminine, act more feminine when I am presenting as such.  Where in boy mode I don't do as well!

When I am presenting fully my voice becomes easier to use, softer, more feminine but in boy mode its not.

sort of a subconcious fear I guess.
Title: Re: Voice "un" breaking?
Post by: Keaira on April 15, 2013, 03:53:47 PM
I can't help but wonder if my voice ever broke to begin with. My wife and I were talking about my voice yesterday and she said I never had a masculine voice to begin with. But it had gotten softer in the last 2 years.