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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: misschievous on May 24, 2013, 09:21:59 AM

Title: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: misschievous on May 24, 2013, 09:21:59 AM
Anyone else feel this way? I wish I could come across the Hot Tub Time Machine and go back into my younger prepuberty body and tell my parents and explain to them the benifits of SRS before puberty and explain to them that I will do this in the future either way but It would be nice to not have gone through puberty with testosterone being the dominant hormone and having not to go through a second puberty to try to correct the testosterone damage it does to my preferred female body.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: misschievous on May 24, 2013, 09:26:43 AM
I think if I as age 8 would been able to explain to them what I know now about transistioning ect that they would have noticed that I did my research and this was what I really wanted. Back then I didn't know anything about SRS ect. or the role certain hormones placed on puberty. especially bone growth.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: muuu on May 24, 2013, 09:48:04 AM
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Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Ltl89 on May 24, 2013, 09:48:37 AM
It sounds tempting, but I doubt I would ever risk time travel.  Who knows what else you will change.  Even if you wouldn't effect any other aspect of the past,  I still don't know if I'd go back.  Like it or not, the experiences that we have faced as "males" has helped develop who we are today.  They aren't all positive memories or experiences, but they are put of who we are.  In a way, going back to change the past will likely change you into a different person.  While it would be great to be able to live as female through childhood, it would be sad to know that I would be terminating who I currently am. 
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Sarah Louise on May 24, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
It would be fun to go back and change a couple things, but just think if everyone did this, what a mess we could create.

If I could I would change three specific instances and dang the consequences.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: misschievous on May 24, 2013, 09:56:30 AM
that is a good point learningtolove but I have to believe that my personality would be better if not about the same. Also I think about all that I missed out on. Prom, slumber parties, ect.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Anna++ on May 24, 2013, 10:09:32 AM
We can't go back and change things, because if we travel into the future from that point in time, it will be the future of that reality, in which Biff is corrupt, powerful, and married to your mother!

I would be curious to see the outcome of each timeline: transition now, transition earlier, transition later.  I don't think I'd want to permanently change anything, though.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Ltl89 on May 24, 2013, 10:10:50 AM
Quote from: misschievous on May 24, 2013, 09:56:30 AM
that is a good point learningtolove but I have to believe that my personality would be better if not about the same. Also I think about all that I missed out on. Prom, slumber parties, ect.

I agree about the things that we have missed out on. It's sad that we couldn't experience them.  I didn't go to prom either and all my slumber parties were with boys.  Yet, I don't care if things would have been better.  I love who I am despite my flaws.  Going back to when I was a child and erasing all of my current thoughts, memories, experiences, skills, etc, is surely going to result in a different person.  It would be nice to have had a female childhood and teenage experience, but not at the cost of destroying who I am.  You may think you would be the same person if you were to do so; however, it is incredibly doubtful.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: muuu on May 24, 2013, 10:17:17 AM
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Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: misschievous on May 24, 2013, 10:20:50 AM
it kinda depends on if you get back in the time machine like Adam or if you take Lou's approach and live out the rest of the time as you get older to where you have your experiences from this reality as you go through new experiences as the new you :P I choose Lou's approach :P
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Joanna Dark on May 24, 2013, 11:29:15 AM
This question is pretty metaphysical and entirely hypothetical since I do not believe in time travel in any way, shape, or form. (And I once wanted and studied to be an astrophysicist but I followed my heart and became a magazine editor who used to get all kinds of swag: YSL and Vera Bradley bags; Valentino dresses; all kinds of makeup; breast pumps!!! Sorry I love reminding myself of that  :P) But if I wasn't me then who would I be? Not the girl who has the great bag from H&M lol so I kinda love me right now. I don't know why but today I woke up and felt that I looked really pretty, and I feel great about myself so I don't think I would. But OTOH I never fully masculinized so I don't know how I would feel if I wasn't the picture of androgyny.  Gawd I feel obscenely privileged and like I shouldn't talk about my trans problems.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Maribeth12 on May 24, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
I would prefer if my future self came back from a later future to tell me if I ever transition or not.  Conversely, I want to transition to do my future self a favor but... Idk what to do exactly but hopefully a year for now I will be passed GID whether I transition or not since I have spent years with MTF thoughts gnawing into me
:-\
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Nicolette on May 24, 2013, 12:23:21 PM
With a time machine, I'd go back and tinker with my embryo to be XX. Who knows, maybe I already tinkered it to be XY for a special, hitherto unknown, future purpose. Maybe, this is how things were supposed to be, or have to be..
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Joanna Dark on May 24, 2013, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: Maribeth12 on May 24, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
I would prefer if my future self came back from a later future to tell me if I ever transition or not.  Conversely, I want to transition to do my future self a favor but... Idk what to do exactly but hopefully a year for now I will be passed GID whether I transition or not since I have spent years with MTF thoughts gnawing into me
:-\

YOU control whether or not you transition. There is no try. There is no maybe. There is no if the Universe wills it. The universe does not care. But you control your fate and you can transition right now! And a year from now you will be hormonally female. I lovelovelove being hormonally female. Sometimes I even get scared that some horrible apocolpyse will happen and I will be forced to wander the earth searching for 17-b estradiol. Oh gawd I need to get SRS like yesterday lol
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Nicolette on May 24, 2013, 12:43:27 PM
Quote from: Joanna Dark on May 24, 2013, 12:30:54 PM
Sometimes I even get scared that some horrible apocolpyse will happen and I will be forced to wander the earth searching for 17-b estradiol.

I don't think so. A few pregnant mares will do. Failing that, I'm sure there'll be a few qualified chemists still with the know-how to synthesise the stuff. But hey, you may need as much T as you can make to survive in your apocalypse.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Joanna Dark on May 24, 2013, 12:47:29 PM
No way! I would transition if I was the last person on earth. When I was little I used to daydream about being the last person on earth just so I could shop in the women's section lol I was going to buy a bunch of makeup the other day but then got sir'd and my self confidence dropped like a rock and I started crying right on the subway. I prob didn't look like a man then lol
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on May 24, 2013, 12:49:57 PM
Nope, I want babies. That would have gotten in the way.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Lorri Kat on May 24, 2013, 01:17:51 PM
Ohhh the worm hole this opens up..lol   The grandfather paradoxa,consistent causal loop, inconsistaent causal loop, Lloyd's post-selected model.  One could not go back to change their past simply because by doing so they never would have been able to travel back to change their past, thusly one does everything as they did which causes them to wish they could go back to change their past but  one could not go back to change their past simply because by doing so they never would have been able to travel back to change their pas...   O.o   oooppps...  seems we're caught in an infinite loop should we try to do this..  Bummer!!!!   

Experiences, both  good and bad, shape our personality. If we were to alter our paradigm and one were to lose some of those experiences there is no way we would still be the same people we are today.   :)
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Tristan on May 24, 2013, 02:15:27 PM
Quote from: misschievous on May 24, 2013, 09:21:59 AM
Anyone else feel this way? I wish I could come across the Hot Tub Time Machine and go back into my younger prepuberty body and tell my parents and explain to them the benifits of SRS before puberty and explain to them that I will do this in the future either way but It would be nice to not have gone through puberty with testosterone being the dominant hormone and having not to go through a second puberty to try to correct the testosterone damage it does to my preferred female body.
as someone who did press the fact that i was not a boy but a girl with my parents alt at a young age i can tell you its not as easy as it sounds. you end up having your parents and siblings telling you your young and no idea what your talking about, have siblings telling everyone at school. getting beat up by family and other students. you may get what you want in the end but trust me it does come at a steep price.  ???
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Joanna Dark on May 24, 2013, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: Tristan on May 24, 2013, 02:15:27 PM
as someone who did press the fact that i was not a boy but a girl with my parents alt at a young age i can tell you its not as easy as it sounds. you end up having your parents and siblings telling you your young and no idea what your talking about, have siblings telling everyone at school. getting beat up by family and other students. you may get what you want in the end but trust me it does come at a steep price.  ???

Exactly. It's not like all the sudden society and especially parents are like "oh my son wants to start taking estrogen so he never gives me grandchildren and dates men. Thank god. Was really hoping he would become a she." I mean can anyone honestly say their parents are that cool? This is the stuff of Fictionmania.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: misschievous on May 24, 2013, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: Lorri Kat on May 24, 2013, 01:17:51 PM
Ohhh the worm hole this opens up..lol   The grandfather paradoxa,consistent causal loop, inconsistaent causal loop, Lloyd's post-selected model.  One could not go back to change their past simply because by doing so they never would have been able to travel back to change their past, thusly one does everything as they did which causes them to wish they could go back to change their past but  one could not go back to change their past simply because by doing so they never would have been able to travel back to change their pas...   O.o   oooppps...  seems we're caught in an infinite loop should we try to do this..  Bummer!!!!   

Experiences, both  good and bad, shape our personality. If we were to alter our paradigm and one were to lose some of those experiences there is no way we would still be the same people we are today.   :)

Depends on which theory of time travel will end up being true. Some scientists believe like you and that you could go back but can't change anything that would hinder you going back in time. Others believe that you don't actually go back into time in this dimension but actually in an alternate dimension or going back actually creates another dimension. In that dimension you could change because in this dimension you will still go on with life exactly the same up until the point you go back in time. IF that is the case than in some dimension I already did that and in another I was born as a girl. In one I was never born at all.

Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: milktea on May 25, 2013, 07:56:03 AM
And what if everything goes back in reverse when you die? Like in Mr nobody???
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: misschievous on May 25, 2013, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: milktea on May 25, 2013, 07:56:03 AM
And what if everything goes back in reverse when you die? Like in Mr nobody???

Never saw that movie. So I would start out post op, and then "it" would get put back on? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :'( :o
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: noleen111 on May 27, 2013, 10:32:26 AM
I wish I could have transitioned as teenager.. so maybe i would to go back and discover that I am a girl sooner, I discovered only at 19 that I was maybe more than a crossdresser

I would loved to have been a teenage girl..
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: misschievous on May 27, 2013, 10:46:42 AM
Glad to see I am not alone, in wishing I could change the past. I know as of right now you can't, but it is fun to think that you could.
Title: Re: Hot Tub Time Machine
Post by: Tristan on May 27, 2013, 11:53:40 AM
Quote from: noleen111 on May 27, 2013, 10:32:26 AM
I wish I could have transitioned as teenager.. so maybe i would to go back and discover that I am a girl sooner, I discovered only at 19 that I was maybe more than a crossdresser

I would loved to have been a teenage girl..
Yeah it sounds fun but girl world in junior high and high school is very rough and cruel. There are good times but really bad ones to that involve physical violence and teachers that openly hate you and express there feelings. And lets not forget the crap your parents tend to give you as well about being safe and you can't do this and that. And hormones at that age are the icing on top of the cake. Ugh... I feel like I'm a Vietnam vet having flash backs haha