Ok I will try this again on this site, for those who have experience dating how do you handle boys? And how did you improve um... Your skills like kissing and stuff. I could really use some big sister advice because apparently I'm cute and I keep attracting alot of guys and a few girls
Ummm... Not sure I understand the question? How to handle them? In what way? Telling them what you like, your expectations?
Are you talking about bedroom "skillz"? Kissing and stuff... ? Like how to kiss a guy?
I can't give you much advice... :(
Maybe you could try being less attractive to them... Like tell them you haven't showered for a month because there's too much mold in your bathtub? That'll get them to at least pause and rethink the situation! >_< hahaha
Quote from: Tristan on May 29, 2013, 10:53:07 PM
Haha that's to funny. Idk I'm learning fast I'm just trying to be careful. This attention is really good but it's new and I'm sure I'm not the only one getting some summer time heads to turn. You girls probably do too. I'm just trying to learn some things and play catch up
You could try saying something to the effect of "I like you, but because of some bad experiences I've had in the past, I find it hard to be totally comfortable doing things like this. Is it okay if we take it slow?" Some guys will respond to this, but the ones who just want sex definitely won't. You gotta kind of screen the guys you meet before letting them in your home, or going to theirs, otherwise it can get to be too much trouble. >_<
I've heard somewhere that if a guy is getting a little too frisky, get him to drink a big tall glass of ice water. That has the effect of reducing the intensity of his feelings.
I don't know, I think I read that in a biography of a hooker years ago.
I hope this isn't worthless, or worse...btw, you're hot, I'm not surprised you're getting a lot of attention! :P
Quote from: Tristan on May 29, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
Everything. Since I'm new to dating I'm realizing I don't know much about kissing or even how to get them to slow down. I mean I have tried stuff like no slow down but I guess some guys don't respond well to that? And French kissing is another thing. Figuring that out is not the easiest either. Just any help or advice you have about dating . I know to meet them in public places at first until I am comfertable with them . I just want to improve in any way I can from advice you girls may have
Where to begin...
1. Don't date jerks. There are a lot of other words I could use, but for the PG crowd, jerks will suffice.
2. Know what you are looking and what you aren't. Have a few things in mind as far as your perfect ideal Mr. Right go.
3. Do not ever let anyone treat you like an object. We are people and have feelings, emotions etc. Same can be said for never letting anyone touch you if you don't want them to. If a guy is looking for a fetish sex doll, tell him to go buy one.
I know what type of guys and girls I'm in to... and what types I'm not. I takes times sorting thru the trash to find the treasure. It's hard, time consuming, and generally frustrating. Before you even meet anyone in person, make sure they fit in to your basic definition of a good guy. Do they have a job? Where do they live? Do they have their own car/place? Education? Finding a boyfriend/girlfriend is sort of like hiring someone for a job... you have to select... not settle. It takes time to select Mr. Right... instead of settling for Mr. Right-Now.
So take the time to think about things you like and would like to have in bf/gf. Sense of humor (this is huge for me), education, hobbies/sports/activities, food like/dislikes, political beliefs, looks, etc. This way you have a way to weed out the ones that just aren't what you're looking for.
Keep the first date light and casual. No fancy diner in an expensive restaurant. I like to do lunch or drinks for a first date. Do it during the day, and don't set your expectations too high. That way you won't be disappointed.
As far as physical contact... never on the first date... never. The only exception would be a hug or attempted kiss (which I usually give them the cheek) as a goodbye at the end... and that's it. I hate grabby, touchy, feely guys... especially when it comes too soon or out of left field. If it is the sort of physical contact that makes you feel uncomfortable, it's not good, and should stop. If they don't understand the word "No"... there are other means to get your point across.
Take it slow, and don't rush things. As far as physical contact, kissing, etc go... I usually let guys initiate... but only let it go on if I want it to. Otherwise, hell no. There's no need to rush to sex unless it's something you both want... just not one side. I never put out until date #4-5. Never. Especially with guys... they've got to earn it. It's not free. Few things in life are. So there are certain things like a little romance, PDA, holding-hands, that has to come first. Any guy that wants: sex or talks about sex or his ex or about himself too much is big red flag. Danger Will Robinson. Danger. Bail. Don't look back.
I never advertised I was trans, even when I was preop. I wouldn't tell them until the third date... this way you can do some research to see if they are worth your time and effort. Putting TS/TG/Trans in your dating profile just attracts the wrong sort of crowd IMHE.
Best way to meet decent guys is thru friends IME. That way your friends can do most of the research and vetting up front. So you have less of a chance wasting your time. Places like the grocery store, bank, and beach have worked well for me.
Go for Mr Right not Mr Right Now.I had a few flings with guys when I was one but my first boyfriend only saw me for a few days each month.It was when his girlfriend was having her period,what a dirtbag and he still owes me £5!
Have you read "The Rules" book. I find it's fun to read and so true on many things when it comes to men. Many argue it's manipulative though.
http://therulesbook.com/ (http://therulesbook.com/)
Quote from: mintra on May 30, 2013, 04:44:20 PM
Have you read "The Rules" book. I find it's fun to read and so true on many things when it comes to men. Many argue it's manipulative though.
http://therulesbook.com/ (http://therulesbook.com/)
...And your point is...?
;)
Quote from: Tristan on May 30, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
I'm going to Rees this now :)
Cool, let me know what you think about it. I read it over 10 years ago after I broke up with my then boyfriend. I think it's really useful for ladies who tend to be too accommodating or tend to be doormat. It's also funny and easy to read and English is not even my 1st language!
Quote from: Beth Andrea on May 30, 2013, 07:10:44 PM
...And your point is...?
;)
I think the point I was trying to make was to read it with an open mind and don't believe everything in the book. Some of the rules are so old fashioned. I just don't think playing hard to get works with all types of men.
IMO, learning how to kiss nicely, whether light, or strong, is based upon experience. I do not think anyone can ever tell you how to kiss or not. :P You kind of just do it!
And men are a horny lot. Do be careful, always screen, and make sure they appreciate your space too! Because if they 'ain't doing that now, what to speak of what will happen to you in the future!
Kissing might be fun to try one day.
<----never actually kissed anyone
Oh Tristan, im right there with you sister...
I have had a few "flings" and wonder if they ended because of something I did wrong. However on reflection I think its a mixture of different things including dating just losers >:(
I would agree with what has been said already. Dont put out on the first date and make him earn it. I was given this advice and twice I chose to ignore it. It doesnt work, You need to keep them on a well controlled leash. Despite what I had thought before I transitioned, as a woman my approach and emotions towards men has changed .....it has intensified. Not from a pure physical sense but from desire and need point of view. If the mood is right, just making out a little can be totally amazing by itself. Some of my fondest memories of recent dates have been the kissing and touching. The laughing and chatting.
Sex is the submission of yourself to another. Your demonstration of feelings in physical form. Its important it isnt given away lightly. If he wants you as much as he says, he will wait.
So good luck. Keep us posted and go enjoy yourself!!
xx
Having been a man long enough to be married with a child I can tell you that "kissing" is just something you will learn. Thankfully women usually decide what is appropriate in that department. Guys just go with whatever. They are just happy to be able to kiss someone.
Making out and sex again should be to your taste. You should discuss sex before starting. It's important for both parties to know what the other likes. And those likes can be turn offs. Mostly for guys, unless you want them to do something humiliating, they will go alone with whatever. Male hormones tend to make a male focused on the act and forget about how to get there so be prepared.
I was always annoyed by that. The not being able to give attention to foreplay and not being able to slow down my sex drive.
Quote from: Tristan on June 12, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
Joanna i could not agree more. men are dogs and need to be kept on that short leash. i make sure to keep them chasing me. now i make them work for it if they want me. im very nice to them but i am learning fast how to deal with guys and if they dont act right i know another will take his place. after all, we have what they want ;)
Now you are learning. ;D
Quote from: Tristan on June 12, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
JennX i am learning snd fast. i so understand why i have not been aloud to really date until now. but im enjoying it for the most part. so far maybe only one keeper.
Christine167 your right. they do need to know what you like cuz if not they go for any and everything....so crazy
Men are like kids... they'll try to do whatever they want unless someone tells them not to. Where to eat, what to eat, what to watch on TV, when to f^&k... etc. They love to push your limits. Set the ground rules upfront and stick to them. You've got to be the adult more often than not. If they don't play nice... move on. There are plenty more out there. Trust me.
Quote from: Tristan on June 12, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
Joanna i could not agree more. men are dogs and need to be kept on that short leash. i make sure to keep them chasing me. now i make them work for it if they want me. im very nice to them but i am learning fast how to deal with guys and if they dont act right i know another will take his place. after all, we have what they want ;)
Wow, what?
Am I truly the only one who sees the inherent sexism of this post? It's not even aimed at a particular breed of men (if such a thing exists), it's insulting an entire gender.
More than anyone else on earth, I'd think
we (as in, transsexuals) should know better than to criticize a specific gender openly. Really, with remarks such as "men are dogs and need to be kept on that short leash", what sort of respect and acceptance can we even expect from
anyone?
"after all, we have what they want"? Really now, is that what you transitioned for? I should inform you that the men who date you will be thinking of a whole lot more than what's between your legs.
Just pathetic, really. Doesn't make it any better that remarks like this don't get condemned or pointed out at all, instead they get backed up with more "you go gurl, now you learning" bullcrap. This surely isn't the first time I've read comments of the sort around here, I often have to read sexist trash... it's to the point where I sometimes think I don't belong in this place because some people are so openly sexist without seemingly realising it...
Quote from: Tristan on June 12, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
men are dogs and need to be kept on that short leash.
Quote from: JennX on June 12, 2013, 09:11:20 PM
Men are like kids... they'll try to do whatever they want unless someone tells them not to.
I've found my best relationships are partnerships based on mutual respect. I don't think I'd ever be happy with someone who needed to be treated that way.
Quote from: JennX on June 12, 2013, 09:11:20 PM
If they don't play nice... move on. There are plenty more out there. Trust me.
I'm with you there, Jenn. Truer words were never spoken.
There are definitely differences between men and women, but men are not dogs or beasts. They are delightful, delicious, unique human beings.
I highly recommend never dating someone you wouldn't want for a friend. If you are dating men, you want to be befriending men, or how will you ever come to love and understand them?
With a good man, your lack of experience is not a negative; good men also like to teach, and will expect that you will teach them many things in return. In the mean time, being with an avid, thoughtful, attentive pupil is a huge turn on for an intelligent and grown up man.
Quote from: Mermaid on June 13, 2013, 06:50:23 AM
Wow, what?
Am I truly the only one who sees the inherent sexism of this post? It's not even aimed at a particular breed of men (if such a thing exists), it's insulting an entire gender.
More than anyone else on earth, I'd think we (as in, transsexuals) should know better than to criticize a specific gender openly. Really, with remarks such as "men are dogs and need to be kept on that short leash", what sort of respect and acceptance can we even expect from anyone?
"after all, we have what they want"? Really now, is that what you transitioned for? I should inform you that the men who date you will be thinking of a whole lot more than what's between your legs.
Just pathetic, really. Doesn't make it any better that remarks like this don't get condemned or pointed out at all, instead they get backed up with more "you go gurl, now you learning" bullcrap. This surely isn't the first time I've read comments of the sort around here, I often have to read sexist trash... it's to the point where I sometimes think I don't belong in this place because some people are so openly sexist without seemingly realising it...
I agree that it isn't right to stereotype or critique an entire gender; however, I think you're getting a little too serious. I'm detecting playful joking than severe man hating in the above post. I don't think anyone here believes that men are inferior or need to be put in their place. If I'm wrong on that, well, then I'm fully behind you.
Having said that, I do think you guys are like dogs. They are very cute and you'd be crazy to not want to cuddle with one.
Quote from: kyh on June 13, 2013, 12:19:04 AM
My experiences haven't been like that at all. Maybe it's just straight men who are hard to deal with like that? Before I dated bisexual guys. But I'm going on a date with this straight guy who's really sweet tomorrow. Wish me luck girls! I will report back and let you know if he tried to *you know* me right away, not that he could even if I wanted him to do that...
Good luck on the date! Keep us posted.
Time to counter the bad here with some good.
The time I spent with Caleb when he was here was nothing short of amazing. He was a gentleman, never treated me like a piece of meat, was not "after just one thing", and in now way, did I have a bad experience with him.
I may not have liked guys before. And its probably due to my childhood and being bullied by them. But, I've let that go. Caleb is a good example of what a good man is and I'm willing to bet that he is not alone in that respect. He lived up to what I thought a nice guy would be like. I mean he went swimming with me! Do you know how uncomfortable that can be for a trans guy?
So I wont bash the guys. Sure there can be bad apples, but ive seen that with women too. Dont beleive me? It was 5 women who helped to stop me using the womens bathrooms at Valeo Sylvania.
Quote from: learningtolive on June 13, 2013, 11:03:39 AM
I think you're getting a little too serious. I'm detecting playful joking than severe man hating in the above post.
I agree. I don't think the ladies here meant to berate or vilify male gender at all. To me it's like typical girls talk about dating. Sex and the City got it a lot worse imho.
Quote from: Tristan on June 13, 2013, 03:52:43 PM
I hope I run Into some if these good guys when I am free next year
Sorry hun, Caleb is mine. :P
Tristan, call me "Old school" - like 1964 ...
Betty Everett - Shoop Shoop Song (it´s in his kiss) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4KN6TFhy2I#)
Kyh, I'm really happy for you :D
Anyway, yea. Can we please keep the guy-bashing to Level zero? Remember, at some point in our lives, we were guys too. And I'm sure you didn't like being bad-mouthed for being a guy. And I'm fairly sure our Brothers across the board wouldn't be happy with it either.
Quote from: learningtolive on June 13, 2013, 11:03:39 AMI think you're getting a little too serious. I'm detecting playful joking than severe man hating in the above post.
It might just aswell have been a joke, but it's akin to saying a woman's place is in the kitchen and that they must be trained to cook and raise children. The point isn't whether it's a joke or not, even if it's a joke it's a sexist one and of extremely bad taste, that's what I tried to point out.
Quote from: mintra on June 13, 2013, 05:09:37 PM
I agree. I don't think the ladies here meant to berate or vilify male gender at all. To me it's like typical girls talk about dating. Sex and the City got it a lot worse imho.
"Typical girls talk" shouldn't have to consist of sexist jokes. If that's the case, then those conversations should be kept private and restricted to circles of like-minded sexual bigots. This is a public place, visited by men and women alike, so I believe people should be the least bit considerate and wary of their "jokes".
On your comment regarding "Sex and the City"... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always inclined to believe that this was a forum mainly aimed at providing support towards transgender individuals and their families, not a TV show about the frustrations and sexual exploits of lonely middled-aged women.
Anyway, forgive me if I was too blunt in my post, I don't wish to make myself anyone's antagonist for pointing out a comment, it's just that I found it rather creepy and offensive and felt it was my place to say something. =)
Quote from: kyh on June 14, 2013, 04:20:27 AM
Oh my gosh Tristan and LearningtoLive! I said I would update you and here it is... I met the guy... Before we had talked on the phone for 2 days, and I knew what he looked like but he didn't know what I looked like (cause I messaged him on a dating site, okcupid.com, and he had a pic but I didn't). He told me, when we were only just talking on the phone, that he was falling really hard for me and that he's never connected with anyone like this before. Not even his girlfriend of 2 years from about a year and a half ago. And well, I met him today, and I had the most amazing day of my life. It was everything I dreamt of having with a guy. He amazes me, completes me. And he thinks I'm pretty and he kissed me and held me so much, and never went farther than I was comfortable with.
This guy... Amazing, amazing, amazing. Talked on the phone again tonight when I got home from our date, and we really just connected and shared with each other. There definitely are good guys out there... Guys that you don't have to try and control, or keep on a leash. You just have to believe, and be open and allow yourself to be vulnerable. Yes... You can get hurt badly. Imagine if I met him and he thought I was a guy, or if he thought I was ugly. That would probably have been the end of it and I would be in so much pain. But without allowing myself to really open my heart to him, I couldn't have felt half the things I did with him, and maybe we would have never met.
Btw, he is so hot. Unbelievable. Even my mom agrees! And he's the *only* guy on the site I messaged, and the *only* one I was interested in. I had been eyeing him for months (yes, I signed up for the site soon after I went fulltime hahaha) before I finally filled out my profile and messaged him. YES! <3
That's great to hear Kyh. I hope it all works out :)
Quote from: Mermaid on June 14, 2013, 08:49:07 AM
It might just aswell have been a joke, but it's akin to saying a woman's place is in the kitchen and that they must be trained to cook and raise children. The point isn't whether it's a joke or not, even if it's a joke it's a sexist one and of extremely bad taste, that's what I tried to point out.
"Typical girls talk" shouldn't have to consist of sexist jokes. If that's the case, then those conversations should be kept private and restricted to circles of like-minded sexual bigots. This is a public place, visited by men and women alike, so I believe people should be the least bit considerate and wary of their "jokes".
On your comment regarding "Sex and the City"... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always inclined to believe that this was a forum mainly aimed at providing support towards transgender individuals and their families, not a TV show about the frustrations and sexual exploits of lonely middled-aged women.
Anyway, forgive me if I was too blunt in my post, I don't wish to make myself anyone's antagonist for pointing out a comment, it's just that I found it rather creepy and offensive and felt it was my place to say something. =)
I agree with you for the most part. I hate sexism no matter what the targeted gender is. I just think that jokes are a bit different. If a male friend of mine told me to make him a sandwich as a joke, I'd laugh it off. If he yelled at me to do so and was serious, then I'd be offended. Tone and context usually are the key to how I will interpret things.
So far, this thread has stayed civil for the most part. Let's all be careful and keep it that way.
I think this is going better than the last time the subject came up. Then again, wasn't it the same person who started that thread too?
One thing I like about the boys is I don't feel envious of them or like I have competition, because there's a lot of pretty girls here. :P
So I made a dating profile, (I'm listed as girl looking for girls so I guess no boys involved here) and I've gotten some interest. However the opposite of what I expected has kind of happened. I thought it would make feel good but somehow it's making me more dysphoric. T_T
I have extensive dating experience all with men!!
25 years worth ..omg I'm a tramp....
You can tell the ones to basically send mixed signals to...
Talk lik your totally a sex slut. Than slap thier hands
For touching..
Those guys are the ones that are focused on sex and think
I will get on my back....I don't do validation sex.....
Some guys will be more romantic...talk to you....
Ask what your interests are..take it slow...
But be prepared you cam br seduced by charm.
And liquor ..learn which drinks are panty remover ...
Hahaha and drink a lot with the right man or send
Mixed signals. .
I usualy make them pay an enormous amoint of attention to me
Weeds out the ones that only Care for breeding you...
It's experinxe. .sometimes I dance with men I'm clubs...sometimes
Let then touch my ass..but it's all play
That is not what I said ..
I can tell the ones only for sex...I play games....waste thirr time
They play with my heart telling me bs ....I jeep rhier hopes up
To eventually tell them I don't really have sex ...and even tell them
A fake storey of a tag team....than say I don't sleep around...
They eventually realize they got played...they think that were dumb
Sometimes and all girls are attention starved....I do not do validation
Sex...meaning I don't slut myself out to confirm I'm a woman
Quote from: xchristine on June 17, 2013, 07:41:46 AM
That is not what I said ..
I can tell the ones only for sex...I play games....waste thirr time
They play with my heart telling me bs ....I jeep rhier hopes up
To eventually tell them I don't really have sex ...and even tell them
A fake storey of a tag team....than say I don't sleep around...
They eventually realize they got played...they think that were dumb
Sometimes and all girls are attention starved....I do not do validation
Sex...meaning I don't slut myself out to confirm I'm a woman
Oh okay :) I misunderstood you then.
Do not over think this Tristen. Just let it come naturally. Guys will not care how you kiss. Just follow their lead. French kissing is bassically just rolling toungues around in each other's mouths so not too much to think about there. Play a little hard to get but not too hard though and I am not talking about the sexual aspects. Too hard and they think you don't like 'em and not hard enough and they'll think your easy. Every guy is different with the dating ritual. Some are agressive and other's not so much. Some are bold and others shy. No matter how they act, they all have insecurities. Only thing I can tell you is just enjoy the game, don't overthink or analys things to deep and it will come naturally and if it don't you'll learn as you go.
Hope this helps a little.
Oh my....is medroxuprogesterone the same results of depo provera?
Hmmm I had no idea it makes me....ummm you know!!
Just thought I was fantasizing when I caught myself
Looking at a hot guys butt....and arms....and eyes...
And I'm surounded by men at work....and new managwr this
Week and hrs @(++ hot
It's all about the talky talk if you don't hit it off personality wise with common interests then things will be awkward the rest is generally pretty easy.
French kissing? If your not used to it I can only suggest going light begin abit coy is better than making him/her gag but if your confident don't hold back.
As for sex on the first date, I once again disagree with the majority on this forum... It depends entirely on what you want from a relationship.
While almost all of us want loving long term relationships that's easier said than done.
To that end I don't think it makes you trashy to take a lover for a night and know that it probably won't go any further. Sex is fun love or not... Although I won't deny it is much more fun/amusing when your in a trusting loving relationship because there's less inhibition and grandstanding. (Insulting each other FTW)
"You penis is hideous it's like a haggis ate a set of b->-bleeped-<-ipes."
"It only looks like that because of how ugly you are."
Hmm I agree with Talky talk. You gotta flirt it out. Play hard to get, like you don't really want it. Be a tease and play around, that way you get a feel for them. Men are usually very simple. It's the ones that are prince charming Mr.perfect from the start that are dangerous and play mind games.
The setting where u meet the guy matters a lot to. Say if I went to a bar and met a guy, there's a high chance hes not my personal type (personality wise) just for the very fact that hes at the bar. I suppose it depends what kind of guy your looking for, you have to look in the right environment to find they type of guy you want.. Rather it helps to look in the right environment.
If I wanted to meet a guy down for some kinky stuff, Id hit up a trendy bar full of fresh 21 yearolds.
If I wanted a smart guy more for intellectual company and maybe a rounded relationship, maybe Id go to a cafe or study at the college campus and socialize.
Its not a guarantee, but it ups the odds. Also don't try to hard, men like a little challenge sometimes.
Quote from: yasuko14 on June 21, 2013, 09:05:33 PM
Hmm I agree with Talky talk. You gotta flirt it out. Play hard to get, like you don't really want it. Be a tease and play around, that way you get a feel for them. Men are usually very simple. It's the ones that are prince charming Mr.perfect from the start that are dangerous and play mind games.
The setting where u meet the guy matters a lot to. Say if I went to a bar and met a guy, there's a high chance hes not my personal type (personality wise) just for the very fact that hes at the bar. I suppose it depends what kind of guy your looking for, you have to look in the right environment to find they type of guy you want.. Rather it helps to look in the right environment.
If I wanted to meet a guy down for some kinky stuff, Id hit up a trendy bar full of fresh 21 yearolds.
If I wanted a smart guy more for intellectual company and maybe a rounded relationship, maybe Id go to a cafe or study at the college campus and socialize.
Its not a guarantee, but it ups the odds. Also don't try to hard, men like a little challenge sometimes.
Very well said!!!
You said what I wanted to much more eloquently..
Thank you
Quote from: Tristan on June 21, 2013, 10:51:54 PM
Your so correct. Mr perfect normally does turn out to be bad. One was to possessive and physically controlling with the back hand, this new one seems to be nice but we will find out this weekend
Yeah... see... If a guy ever (and I do mean ever) has the thought of putting his hands on me in an inappropriate manner... he'll soon find out, postop or not, what 3 years as a HTH (hand-to-hand Level 4 Combatives) combat instructor in the Army taught me. And it will be a lesson he will not soon forget either. I also have black belts in BJJ and Northern Tiger Style KF. Basically... depsite my appearance... I'm not the b!tch to f^@k with.
;D
Mmm i wish i was as strong as you...
Im à weak little thing...featherwigjt or even lighter...
I remember a man that I wad living with ...
He used to abuse me...and it terrified me into a
State of complete utter fright..
He outweighed me be easy 50 lbs and two inches taller..
And he was all tone.
I learned very early that it might hurt less to not fight back
One thing that I have learned in my six years after high school, and after three boyfriends (two ex's and "it's complicated" one), is to never move in early if you don't feel right... give the relationship at least six months to a year before even considering! And none of this, "But baby, how are we gonna know each other if we don't live together?" kind of crap logic, lol.
Some men in relationships want to have their cake and eat it too. Some men really need to merit that cake first, and show me that they are mature, ready, and able to have a good and stable relationship!
That is so true Tristan ..
Me and you sounds like had the woman experience way more than
Others...
But so much societal conditonijg and his brainwashing
I started to believe that is what j am made for...
I didn't have any rights....the police brought me back home...
No family would intervene. ..it took him breaking both my wrists
To finally have a hospital social worker confine me and a police order
To be sent to a safe house..
Most don't understand the position of being a woman and how delicate it is...
And we have starred to go off topic what ever it was....
Quote from: Tristan on June 22, 2013, 11:54:20 AM
I have herd that kind with this guy already. It made me wonder after a while what his intentions were. I so t mind serving him but I wonder if he's true or if he's not. And your right.
LOl they'll do the same with sex if you're not up to it too! ::)
Well, I suppose it only takes time to see if a nice guy will actually behave, or can't contain himself, lol. :P