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Activism and Politics => Politics => Topic started by: The Middle Way on June 05, 2007, 05:14:54 PM

Title: trouble
Post by: The Middle Way on June 05, 2007, 05:14:54 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070605/ap_on_el_pr/obama_blacks

I'm watchin and I'm waitin -
Hopin for the best
Even think I've gone to prayin
Every time I hear them say:

No way to delay that trouble comin ev'ry day
Title: Re: trouble
Post by: cindianna_jones on June 05, 2007, 05:55:25 PM
We'll ignore it.  We don't care.  We believe that it is their fault that they are poor... after all this is the land of opportunity, right?

The truth is, we are a nation of the majority.  If you ain't in the majority, you don't belong here.  It all started with the xenocide of the native Americans.  They still have overwhelming odds in becoming successful in our society. They remain in poverty.

What do we do if it happens?  We'll stand aside and watch them destroy their neighborhoods and then step in and steal the land as it becomes cleared for commercial use.

Cinical Cindi
Title: Re: trouble
Post by: The Middle Way on June 05, 2007, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on June 05, 2007, 05:55:25 PM
We'll stand aside and watch them destroy their neighborhoods and then step in and steal the land as it becomes cleared for commercial use.

Cinical Cindi

Yep, it's the American Way, after all.

I saw a film the other night, oh boy.

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.
Title: Re: trouble
Post by: LostInTime on June 06, 2007, 03:36:50 PM
How about they riot by getting out there and casting a vote?

As for quiet riot, they did a great cover of Slade's, `Mama We're All Crazee Now`.  ;)
Title: Re: trouble
Post by: cindianna_jones on June 06, 2007, 08:07:23 PM
Quote from: The Middle Way on June 05, 2007, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on June 05, 2007, 05:55:25 PM
We'll stand aside and watch them destroy their neighborhoods and then step in and steal the land as it becomes cleared for commercial use.

Cinical Cindi

Yep, it's the American Way, after all.

I saw a film the other night, oh boy.

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.

Hey I just saw that movie a couple of days ago too!  I've got a great, great, great (I don't know how many greats actually.... I'd have to look it up) grandpa back somewhere in my family that is sorta kinda famous.  His name was Massasoit, leader of the Wampanoag.  He was a smart Indian.  He decided to be Christian rather than be killed.  (right.... some choice huh?)

But anyhoo, the movie was good and very sobering.  It's too bad they didn't give a bit more to the shirt dance towards the end... that wasn't explained quite enough for the "white people of our great land" to fully understand exactly what happened.

Cindi
Title: Re: trouble
Post by: The Middle Way on July 19, 2007, 12:43:16 AM
Quote from: LostInTime on June 06, 2007, 03:36:50 PM
How about they riot by getting out there and casting a vote?

Confer Florida, 2000, presidential 'election' (read: appointment, since they quit counting votes if they weren't by the right voters.)
Title: Re: trouble
Post by: Wendy Kahr on August 08, 2007, 06:27:12 AM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on June 05, 2007, 05:55:25 PM
We'll ignore it.  We don't care.  We believe that it is their fault that they are poor... after all this is the land of opportunity, right?

The truth is, we are a nation of the majority.  If you ain't in the majority, you don't belong here.  It all started with the xenocide of the native Americans.  They still have overwhelming odds in becoming successful in our society. They remain in poverty.

What do we do if it happens?  We'll stand aside and watch them destroy their neighborhoods and then step in and steal the land as it becomes cleared for commercial use.

Cinical Cindi

Aside from situations where, yes indeed, people didn't have a chance from day one (being born into poverty, being in a situation where as a kid you had to join a gang in order to survive, getting shot and crippled as an innocent bystander, trying to work hard to get ahead and having yourself get attacked and robbed for you efforts and everything you worked for stolen, etc.), some people do make bad choices.

Drugs (using or selling) is a bad choice. Irresponsible / risky sexual behavior is (in my opinion) a bad choice too.

I grew up in a majority black section of Detroit in the '70's. Yes, racism is still out there. But I saw many instances of those trying to get ahead being picked on / attacked for "being white", the get rich easy thug mentality glorified over the go to school and work hard to get ahead approach,  and young people having sex without a thought to marriage and sexual fidelity and the proper parenting of the resulting children.

Someone who is trying the right way to get ahead and make it certainly has my sympathy. But those who made the wrong lifestyle choices (especially drugs and/or violent crime) get no sympathy from me...