Republican Wants Right to Fire LGBT Employees Who 'Work in a Tutu'
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2013/06/19/republican-wants-right-fire-lgbt-employees-who-work-tutu (http://www.advocate.com/politics/2013/06/19/republican-wants-right-fire-lgbt-employees-who-work-tutu)
BY Lucas Grindley
June 19 2013 1:22 PM ET
"Some Republicans claim they haven't thought about the merits of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would make it illegal to fire someone for being gay. But that doesn't include one Idaho state lawmaker.
"I'd hire a gay guy if I thought he was a good worker. But if he comes into work in a tutu ... he's not producing what I want in my office," said Cornel Rasor, according to The Spokesman-Review of Spokane, Wash. Rasor is the chairman of the Idaho GOP's resolutions committee, which wants the state to invalidate any local antidiscrimination ordinances that include protection from discrimination based on sexual orientation in housing and other areas."
Quote from: Natasha on June 20, 2013, 11:42:49 PM
But if he comes into work in a tutu ... he's not producing what I want in my office," said Cornel Rasor
What if a transgender woman shows up wearing professional female clothes? I think the "no tutus" rule should also apply to cis-women in an office (probably as part of the dress code) :P
Last time I checked, tu-tus are not proper business attire.
I honestly don't know whether to laugh, laugh at his idiocy, feel offended or feel angry. So I guess I'll do all four. Just goes to show how much politicians know.
Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 02:15:12 PM
Last time I checked, tu-tus are not proper business attire.
And as long as anyone who comes to work in one gets fired, I see no problem here.
Ah, but they are proper attire if you are a Ballet Dancer. :P
I didn't go all the way to DC to fight for an inclusive ENDA for this chap to stop it passing. I'll keep fighting and my resolve is stronger than his. Luckily, One of our Indiana Representatives ( Senator Joe Donnelly) is a sponsor of the new ENDA bill. So Lobbying him was more of a, "Thank you and please, keep pressing for this." kind of meeting, Congressman Todd Young I am hoping, will vote yes. He's a really great guy and he listened to what we had to say. It was hard to read him, he's playing close to his chest. But, we will see.
Look at me, sounding all political. lol :P
Political slur removed
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on June 21, 2013, 02:57:06 PM
And as long as anyone who comes to work in one gets fired, I see no problem here.
I take that back, Tutu wearers should get medals: http://www.thetutuproject.com/ (http://www.thetutuproject.com/)
Why does it seem that quite a lot of the time anytime a Republican politician wants a right it's usually to remove someone else's right or civil liberty?
Besides which aren't there any more important issues to deal with like the economy, job creation or dealing with the national debt?
I'm just curious, that's all.
Quote from: StellaB on June 21, 2013, 03:26:43 PM
Besides which aren't there any more important issues to deal with like the economy, job creation or dealing with the national debt?
I'm just curious, that's all.
At the risk of wandering off topic, I'll try to satisfy your curiosity.
Suppose you were very very very rich and wanted to control an otherwise well-intentioned political party to further your interests. You want your taxes lower, you want less regulation for the industries that you invest in, etc.
You can't very well tell people "Hey, vote for our party so we can get even richer than we already are". Nobody would go for that.
However you can say, "Hey look at those people! They're different from you. They're out to destroy your lifestyle. Vote for our party and we'll protect you from those people." You have a good chance of scaring enough people to win an election or two.
Note, this is not a commentary on the Republican party or conservative ideals (many of which I agree with), merely the tactics they've used lately and the reason why they've had to resort to those tactics.
Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
I've heard the "what if they come to work in a tutu" argument before...all the Republicans are doing is using a negative stereotype to demean the LGBT community...which is apparently fine for their voter base.
While this is true, the Democrats have done the same thing...for example, characterizing the NRA as "wanting to arm drug dealers" and "wanting to see massacres on school grounds", and claiming "the Rich" want to see people starve.
Summed up, we hear: LOOK! LOOK AT THEM PEOPLES! THEY'RE...*WEIRD*, AND *DIFFERENT*!! THEY'RE A THREAT TO YOU, TO US, TO OUR WAY OF LIFE!!
Unfortunately, most people are relatively brain-dead, and "think" with their emotions. Want to win an election? Pander to fear. People aren't rational. (This includes myself, btw...although I like to think otherwise, just like everyone else...MOOooooOOOoooo....)
I really don't know what to do with my right to vote...when I'm given the choice of Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum...and if I were to run (and win), I'd still have to work with not only those two, but The Mad Hatter and The Red Queen as well.
Beth, have you ever built a house 'cause you sure hit the nail on the head. I don't trust any of them to tell the truth. And yeah, that's exactly what I hear when they talk.
Please be advised not to bash or use slurs. Thank you.
Please review this recent reminder from Susan: The use of political slurs (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,142056.0.html)
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on June 21, 2013, 04:43:42 PM
Please review this recent reminder from Susan: The use of political slurs (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,142056.0.html)
Thank you Devlyn Marie, for being precise with your admonition. I did not know that I had done something wrong.
Problem is fixed.
Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 06:00:32 PM
Thank you Devlyn Marie, for being precise with your admonition. I did not know that I had done something wrong.
Problem is fixed.
I'm not an admonisher*, I'm an educator!
*OK, you got me, I am an admonisher!
Me too, sorry.
This is ridiculous. Extending protections to LGBT Employees doesn't mean that you are allowing chaos into one's business. The law is meant to protect people from being fired because of their gender or sexual orientation. They can still be fired for other reasons like other employees. Let's make it simple. If you get fired because your gay, the law will protect you. If you get fired because you ignore the companies dress code by coming into work wearing a tutu and a swastika t-shirt, then the law will not protect you even if you are LGBT. The motive for the firing is what is relevant. Is this really that hard to grasp?
Snickers... I think Cornel Rasor is just pissed because he wonts to wear one but dosen't have the b.. ...errr have the ...fortitude to do it!
Quote from: Lorri Kat on June 21, 2013, 08:50:54 PM
Snickers... I think Cornel Rasor is just pissed because he wonts to wear one but dosen't have the b.. ...errr have the ...fortitude to do it!
You're allowed to say that he doesn't have the body for it.
Quote from: Anna! on June 21, 2013, 08:56:20 PM
You're allowed to say that he doesn't have the body for it.
Yes, yes you are.
It's like he's trying to be ignorant. Lol.
A lot of discussion about a nobody state legislator. What about people who are actually empowered to do something, but don't?
Quote from: Jamie D on June 22, 2013, 01:05:02 AM
A lot of discussion about a nobody state legislator. What about people who are actually empowered to do something, but don't?
That is precisely why Gov. Cuomo ticks me off.
How about the right to fire politicians who talk out of their ass?
Quote from: big kim on June 22, 2013, 04:56:38 AM
How about the right to fire politicians who talk out of their ass?
It's called "the vote".
Quote from: Jamie D on June 22, 2013, 01:05:02 AM
A lot of discussion about a nobody state legislator. What about people who are actually empowered to do something, but don't?
Well Jamie, feel free to post a thread on that.
;)