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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Elanore joey on June 26, 2013, 04:48:28 PM

Title: taking the plunge
Post by: Elanore joey on June 26, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
so after last weekend when i went out shopping as full fem, im full of confidence and this week end i plan on going swimming. i am used to wearing a 1 piece as i have previously done open water swimming wearing triathlon 1 piece. i was just hoping to get some advice going swimming as a female.
btw i have a swimmdress
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: kariann330 on June 26, 2013, 04:54:35 PM
To help stay tucked wear a tight pair of panties under your swimsuit, or even a gaff...and have fun.
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Elanore joey on June 26, 2013, 05:01:50 PM
i dont have much to tuck anyway lol but that is 1 of the reasons i chose a swimdress (also hides any unwanted bulge)
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: kariann330 on June 26, 2013, 05:21:57 PM
Well then all i can say is smile, have fun and don't try to go under with makeup on....it really burns when it gets in your eyes lol.
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Elanore joey on June 27, 2013, 01:37:12 AM
I'll try and smile but I really don't know about make up
swimming and make up  does'nt mix with me cuz I spend more time under water than above but I really conciess about my facial hair (folicals)
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Alainaluvsu on June 27, 2013, 09:24:18 AM
Keep in mind, water is awful for the hair. That's why you don't see very many women going completely under. Not to mention, wet hair is harder to pass in.
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Elanore joey on June 27, 2013, 04:55:13 PM
 ;
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 27, 2013, 09:24:18 AM
Keep in mind, water is awful for the hair. That's why you don't see very many women going completely under. Not to mention, wet hair is harder to pass in.
That's ok I'm a hairdresser qualified to degree level I know all the trade secrets ;)
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: kariann330 on June 27, 2013, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: wardyjnr on June 27, 2013, 04:55:13 PM
;That's ok I'm a hairdresser qualified to degree level I know all the trade secrets ;)

WHAAAATTT....do share plz....im trying to recover from a hairline high undercut....the top is about 6in now and sides and back are like 3in lol
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Alainaluvsu on June 27, 2013, 07:07:21 PM
I'm a beauty school drop out, lol... I know what water does to the hair. Especially chlorinated or untreated water...
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Tristan on June 27, 2013, 08:29:51 PM
Can't you girls just treat your hair the Same night after you get out of the water?
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Alainaluvsu on June 27, 2013, 08:59:00 PM
No. The hair needs oil and if you keep washing that oil out every night (if it's not oily, of course), then you will rob your hair of those oils and make it more susceptible to damage.
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: xchristine on June 27, 2013, 09:29:35 PM
Aww I can't even take any sun...
Before it was ladingy face....and now I started
Full body lasing....no sun until next summer...
Sniffle sniffle :'(
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Tristan on June 27, 2013, 10:50:04 PM
That sucks. I guess I got lucky with mutant hair ???
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: kariann330 on June 28, 2013, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Tristan on June 27, 2013, 10:50:04 PM
That sucks. I guess I got lucky with mutant hair ???

Yeah you did, no lie if my hair gets wet and i don't have any conditioner im brushing out knots and tangles. If i shampoo without conditioner i can start up some pretty good dreads. It really sucks and makes me jealous of the people who can skip the conditioner and detangler all together.
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Elanore joey on June 28, 2013, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: kariann330 on June 27, 2013, 06:54:43 PM
WHAAAATTT....do share plz....im trying to recover from a hairline high undercut....the top is about 6in now and sides and back are like 3in lol
First nothing is garanteed to help hair growth but certain things can help certain people  such as the obviouse of a balanced diet , soya food can help, morrocan oil and also your hair growth cycle has 3 stages to it anogen which is growth can last upto 7 years but every hair is different, second is catogen which means the folicle is resting this last for upto 6 weeks and finally telogen which don't be alarmed because it happens with out you knowing, this where your hair falls out. Each follicale is in this stage for about 2 weeks and then after that you get new hair growth.
It also depends on how long you have been on hrt as estrogen really helps hair growth
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Alainaluvsu on June 28, 2013, 02:10:23 AM
Quote from: Tristan on June 27, 2013, 10:50:04 PM
That sucks. I guess I got lucky with mutant hair ???

Do you shampoo everyday?
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Alainaluvsu on June 28, 2013, 02:17:17 AM
Quote from: kariann330 on June 27, 2013, 06:54:43 PM
WHAAAATTT....do share plz....im trying to recover from a hairline high undercut....the top is about 6in now and sides and back are like 3in lol

Ouch. Hair, on average, grows 1/2 an inch a month. Eating lots of protein helps hair grow faster because hairs main content is keratin (a protein). Biotin and pre natal vitamins also help. High estradiol levels help too. Lastly, daily scalp massages stimulates the dermal papilla into producing hair faster due to increased blood flow.

But unfortunately, it'll probably still take quite some time to grow out long hair if that's what you're looking for. Like I said, on average hair grows 1/2" per month. My hair has always grown fast at 3/4" to almost an inch a month. Careful with your E levels, however... high E increases hair follicle density and if / when they come down to normal, you're actually subject to postpartum type alopecia. My E was in the 1400 range last month and my E dose was cut in half, and I'm losing quite a bit of hair.
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Jamie D on June 28, 2013, 02:28:55 AM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 27, 2013, 07:07:21 PM
I'm a beauty school drop out, lol... I know what water does to the hair. Especially chlorinated or untreated water...

Reminds me of the musical "Grease."
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: smile_jma on June 28, 2013, 03:14:01 AM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 28, 2013, 02:10:23 AM
Do you shampoo everyday?

I shampoo everyday. Rarely condition. Haven't noticed any issues except for when it's kind of windy tangles are inevitable. 

I feel like I', going to get a response that I shouldn't shampoo every morning...
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: kyh on June 28, 2013, 05:47:19 AM
Quote from: smile_jma on June 28, 2013, 03:14:01 AM
I shampoo everyday. Rarely condition. Haven't noticed any issues except for when it's kind of windy tangles are inevitable. 

I feel like I', going to get a response that I shouldn't shampoo every morning...

Perhaps you have hair that's just extremely oily. A lot of guys I know shower everyday, but none of the girls I know. But then, we do have guy hair... Texture wise at least. :)
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: xchristine on June 28, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
I have horse hair
And I love it ...  .
Shampoo twice a week but condition daily
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Tristan on June 28, 2013, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 28, 2013, 02:10:23 AM
Do you shampoo everyday?
Not every day but if I swim alot I do. Or like volleyball at the beach. I shampoo and deep condition quite a bit
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Renee on June 28, 2013, 02:26:45 PM
When I go swimming and its usually in the ocean since I live on the coast, I'm getting my hair wet. I would feel silly and not enjoy myself if I had to concern myself with that. Not been an issue yet...
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Alainaluvsu on June 28, 2013, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: kyh on June 28, 2013, 05:47:19 AM
Perhaps you have hair that's just extremely oily. A lot of guys I know shower everyday, but none of the girls I know. But then, we do have guy hair... Texture wise at least. :)

It has nothing to do with the texture, just sebum production. Testosterone causes more sebum to be produced by the follicle, that's why men have more oily hair and usually shampoo everyday. Sebum however is good for your hair (and skin). It offers protection from UV rays and has immunity properties against infection. It also smoothes the cuticle layer of the hair, giving it a more glassy feel and acts as a natural moisturizer. This all keeps frizz to a minimum, and yes, makes it easier to brush the tangles out. Shampooing every day can  (but wont always) rob your hair of sebum.

I personally shampoo once a week and have some of the healthiest, shiniest hair you will see. Women tell me all the time they'd kill for my hair. Even hairdressers tell me that. Put it like this ... when I shampoo my hair, I let it air dry and it comes out like in the pic. No hairdryer, no flat iron, nothing...

Quote from: Tristan on June 28, 2013, 02:23:02 PM
Not every day but if I swim alot I do. Or like volleyball at the beach. I shampoo and deep condition quite a bit

When you swim or sweat a lot, then yes it's a good idea to shampoo. That takes dirt and other particles in the hair that would build up and make it stinky :)
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Joanna Dark on June 28, 2013, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 28, 2013, 03:02:10 PM
I personally shampoo once a week and have some of the healthiest, shiniest hair you will see. Women tell me all the time they'd kill for my hair. Even hairdressers tell me that. Put it like this ... when I shampoo my hair, I let it air dry and it comes out like in the pic. No hairdryer, no flat iron, nothing...

What do you do on the days you don't shower. My hair just does whatever it wants and what it wants to do is be all wavy and style itself back into a boyish haricut. I have a pixie cut like demi moore in ghost and when I first brush it and style it it looks great and totally femme and I love it but then it just diverts back to this boyish look when it gets wavy and I prolly play with it too much but it starts forcing itself to the right and just looks boyish and I hate it. And if I don't shower it just looks boyish no matter what.

I guess that is two problems lol
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Alainaluvsu on June 28, 2013, 04:43:24 PM
I just brush it.

How long is it?
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Joanna Dark on June 28, 2013, 05:35:08 PM
It's prolly four or five inches. It naturally lays right on my brow bone. I trimmed the split ends the other day and fixied it up and so it looks almost exactly like Demi Moore's hair in Ghost. But it's wavy where I want it to be straight. Maybe I should buy a hair straightener. It'll be awhile before I can get the hairstyle I want, which is an inverted bob.
Title: Re: taking the plunge
Post by: Alainaluvsu on June 28, 2013, 05:52:54 PM
Everybody has a different wave pattern and growth pattern. It's hard to make someones' hair look like some body else without styling it because of that. But what I was speaking of earlier is if you're wanting to go all natural and not do anything with it, hair health is directly related to how much sebum is in your hair, along with how you take care of it, and your diet.

If your hair is curly and you want it to be straight, you'll need to use tools. However, if it's healthy, it'll USUALLY look good all natural as long as it's cut to look good all natural.

But before I could give you advice I'd have to see it in person.