Hi gents.
My partner is a F2M with a very unfortunately endowed chest who currently is not on hormones nor has he had any surgeries. Last year he invested in a binder for a larger breast, to very little success. The binder fit, and very tightly, but with it on, there were still unmistakably breasts.....it bound them, but he still looked like like he had a C cup....it was a pretty disappointing experience as binders don't come cheap....
Anyway, the fact of the matter is that his chest is a 38 band size; I cup size....a 38I. People have given him a hard time before and claiming not to believe him, but trust me....we aren't measuring wrong, we aren't mistaken, we aren't pulling your leg....
Does anyone know how to bind for someone with a chest this size? Does anyone know where to find information on binding for a large chest? This whole situation is pretty frustrating....and we appreciate any help y'all have to offer.
I am nowhere near as well-endowed as your SO, but here are my suggestions:
-Try going out and down instead of binding in. What I mean by this push the breasts outward, towards the sides and flatten them down. Use clear surgical tape to put them in place.
-Then put the binder on. He may never achieve a flat or even sufficiently masculine chest...but that may help. Some binders don't really push the breasts down as much as they hold them in...so if you have a larger chest, all it is really doing is pressing them against your chest bones to a certain degree.
-Another strategy would be to invest in a good back brace and wear that + binder to throw people off. He can pass himself off as having an injury if need be in some situations.
I'm sure there are resources out there on the internet to help with his situation. Good luck with your search. :)
Quote from: zombieinc on July 21, 2013, 11:13:24 AM
I am nowhere near as well-endowed as your SO, but here are my suggestions:
-Try going out and down instead of binding in. What I mean by this push the breasts outward, towards the sides and flatten them down. Use clear surgical tape to put them in place.
-Then put the binder on. He may never achieve a flat or even sufficiently masculine chest...but that may help. Some binders don't really push the breasts down as much as they hold them in...so if you have a larger chest, all it is really doing is pressing them against your chest bones to a certain degree.
-Another strategy would be to invest in a good back brace and wear that + binder to throw people off. He can pass himself off as having an injury if need be in some situations.
I'm sure there are resources out there on the internet to help with his situation. Good luck with your search. :)
I appreciate your help and well wishes!
I have no idea how large that is as I am horrible with cup sizes, but it sounds pretty large. And if it is, I wonder if it is giving him back trouble? Sometimes breast reductions are covered when it gives pain issues, so that might be something for him to look into.
Sometimes it depends on the binder. I'm a DDD/F and I sometimes use 2 binders to bind. I use a underworks 997 and a tri-top. Both XL and XXL. Try that? T will help with being able to bind as well as binding for a long time as it breaks down breast tissue. Until your SO is able to get on T maybe try 2 binders or maybe another type of binder that will bind tighter.
I've heard of guys hurting their ribs and muscles by binding too tightly or wearing two binders. I wouldn't recommend it. You said he's not on hormones yet. I would recommend saving up for top surgery first and getting it done asap then worrying about hormones. I've never in my life seen a size "I" chest. You're not going to get those flat everyday without some sort of consequence of doing so.
Something that large could cause serious back issues. If you have insurance, they would probably cover a reduction- and I don't think they can limit you on how much is reduced.
My chest is in that size range.
I tried so many different binder combinations - now I wear a underworks 983 triptop over a sports bra. A chest this size tends to....slip out... of a tri top over time, but the tri top is really the only thing to reign them in. The sports bra holds them in place so the binder can be as effective as possible. Sports bra/binder is safer breathing wise than multiple binders, in my opinion.
But if he wants to layer binders - the 983 and 997 from Underworks can work well together. That was suggested to me by someone on this board, and it can handle a large chest too, though I still worried about slippage, while with the sports bra I don't even really have to adjust during the day.
He probably won't get all the way flat. That's the truth of it. Binding breaks them down over time, and losing weight if he needs to will also help shrink them and flatten them out. Layer clothing in the meantime. In the summer - short sleeve button downs over a t-shirt works well
My daughter is a J cup, binding something in that range would seem to be impossible. I do know T will 'deflate' them a bit and age will help. Binding them to flat is not safe for ribs or lungs. I do hope he is doing some deep breathing/coughing each day after removing any binder.
Sorry I don't have any good suggestions, just sympathy.
I know someone with like a triple DD (or so) chest. He got his top surgery paid for due to back issues. The surgery is similar enough to reduction. They just don't say how much they are reducing. The doctor is local and says he maybe has covered 2 of them before, so it's not like he does this constantly but I cup-- can't even imagine this, but must be something that could be covered.
The really big name surgeons sometimes don't take insurance at all btw.
--Jay
I think what he's got down to is probably as far as he can go. I was nowhere near that and I couldn't get it flat myself.
I agree with Simon and the others, I don't know what he would have to do to get it flatter but it probably wouldn't be safe.
Is he a bigger (weight wise) guy? I see plenty of larger guys with about a b or c. Sometimes it actually looks more natural to have something up front if you're a bigger guy.
thanks so much for the helpful advice guys! I can't tell you how much we appreciate it!
depending on the style binder and his body type (this will likely only work if he's a bit tubby or more ;D ) but you could try binding them straight down but you kinda need the whole binder to have the panel, most of the way down to your stomach so it sort of just blends in - i was an DD/E lord knows what they are now
Quote from: Geek on July 27, 2013, 12:25:36 AM
depending on the style binder and his body type (this will likely only work if he's a bit tubby or more ;D ) but you could try binding them straight down but you kinda need the whole binder to have the panel, most of the way down to your stomach so it sort of just blends in - i was an DD/E lord knows what they are now
Thanks dude!
Quote from: Oriah on July 27, 2013, 12:38:53 AM
Thanks dude!
no probs! i know most people DONT bind that way - but its the only way that works for me :) and work well it does, though im a fat bastard and thats why :)