How many of you have given up tucking and felt confortable on having a small bulge, just naturally leaving the penis and escrotum in the panties?
Why have you decided to do it, and how do you feel about it?
Go.
I don't tuck, never have really. I can count on 1 hand the times I've done it.
I do adjust things a little, in order to minimise the bulge, but that's it.
For me, I kinda figure if people are noticing the quite small bulge in my pants, I've got bigger issues elsewhere.. It doesn't effect my clothing choices either.
I adjust to reduce bulge and select bulge-reducing clothes. I have never tucked. I wouldn't try walking and working all day like that.
When I first started out I never tucked, owing to a bad experience where a testicle suddenly started feeling like it was being crushed in the middle of the restaurant.
Since I started spiro, only a couple months ago, the boys are about a third their original size and I can easily manage a tuck all day. I really like it because it feels down there the way a female feels.
I have a friend who never tucks. She only wears skirts and dresses, so you can't tell a thing.
Sorry I misread the title of the thread. Please accept my apologies.
;D did that years ago, comfort over anything, I refuse to wear tight pants or even ANY pants even, I just wear skirts and Skorts and it solves that problem, I wear panties that fit pretty well and it controls what I have
I live full time, my ID full reads female but why bother hurting myself just for high fashion.
Nice to have a good amount of initial opinions ^^
Now, the reason I ask. I used to tuck painfully at first. The first full year of HRT, I suppose. Then... I just stopped one day. It came alongside the total rejection of the notion of gender, and the self-classification as genderqueer. Losing the obligation to pertain to a6 pre-defined female realm, I just gave up hiding the bulge. I use jeans shorts and pants, and I think the bulge is reasonably noticeable if you pay attention. I don't use yoga pants tough, that'd be overly ridiculous... but aside from that, I just don't care anymore. And I thought that there is certainly people like that out there too.
Hence, the question.
So then, be yourself, girl!
When I wear tight panties it keeps any potential bulge to a minimum.
I do like silky girly panties and I haven't had much bulge even when wearing them.
I stopped tucking a while ago, I've lost size anyways so nothing is that noticeable. Well I guess it's irrelevant anyways since I still play a male persona still =/
That's funny I just tucked far back away. I just feel better & so much smoother in pants. I sure hope one day for nothing to tuck away.
I've always tucked. Early in life I did shows at gay bars & I always needed to look smooth.
Funny life we live.
Francis
Occasional I have had a testicle lodge itself in it's storage bay, uncomfortable & took some giggling & manipulation to get it to drop. I thought if I did that to the penis it may take some work to get it out. Fortunately mine is small, with tight bikini pants & pantyhose even with some form fitting dresses or skirts the bulge is barely noticeable. I don't wear pants very much, mostly dresses & a few long skirts just below the knee that are layered or roomy & don't show the bulge. I will never tuck.
Quote from: Miss Bungle on October 17, 2013, 11:13:23 PM
I never bothered with it. Since I had the orchi a few years ago, it's a non issue now.
Smart girl. I wish I had years ago. It would sure be simpler without spiro stuff that makes you go pee all the time.
So I guess have to be the different one here...
For myself, I despise the whole organ down there and cannot imagine living without tucking. I have never been that gifted anyway, so after so many months of HRT the parts just tuck away very nicely and comfortably.
At least you moved forward, better than myself that has never followed thru for an orchi & I know it will be another year for my SRS maybe. Not much extra money here also.
I'm proud of you girl friend. Thanks for sharing.
Francis
Quote from: Mayra Viamonte on August 07, 2013, 08:54:37 AM
Nice to have a good amount of initial opinions ^^
Now, the reason I ask. I used to tuck painfully at first. The first full year of HRT, I suppose. Then... I just stopped one day. It came alongside the total rejection of the notion of gender, and the self-classification as genderqueer. Losing the obligation to pertain to a6 pre-defined female realm, I just gave up hiding the bulge. I use jeans shorts and pants, and I think the bulge is reasonably noticeable if you pay attention. I don't use yoga pants tough, that'd be overly ridiculous... but aside from that, I just don't care anymore. And I thought that there is certainly people like that out there too.
Hence, the question.
I never tucked internally but just the way back push or "adjustment" that can still result in a minor bulge in some underwear. I appreciate the question and clarification of different tucking styles Mayra, and your broad bold sense of gender and expression. I share your declaration acutely while still feeling more feminine than masculine. Where will I be in another year? Gender now seems much more fluid to me and permanence the real illusion.
Rock on
Quote from: Miss Bungle on October 18, 2013, 12:39:55 AM
Well, I didn't really have a choice. It was have the orchi, detransition, or be depressed and more than likely end up finally killing myself. Never in a million years would I thought that I would have an orchi because I always thought that GRS was inevitable. Once I faced the harsh reality of the situation, I knew that I had no choice but to take a detour on the transitional path.
It was depressing for a few days but that was a long time ago. Now things are a bit better. Yeah, I've had some issues lately but it's just something that I have to deal with from time to time.
Life goes on.
Miss Bungle,
Dear girl friend I hope you have a beautiful day. You deserve it & you should enjoy it. I understand & have considered an orchi however I'm going to hold off as long as I can for maybe my SRS.
Regardless I care about you, thank you for sharing & I'm sure every member of Susan's Place feels the same way.
Take care,
Francis
All this discussion about tucking or not tucking encourage me to have a little experiment today. I tucked everything away real tight, dressed nice & normal then went shopping at my local Goodwill store. I was so much calmer, talked with the women clerks more, talked with some other women shoppers, they all said I looked very nice & even suggested some items. I told all of them even the shoppers that I was trying very my best with HRT however it takes time & that I should have joined them when in was in my early 20's, I've always been a girl or woman.
Now sure why however I just felt so much different. I felt like more of a normal woman with these nice women.
It was great for me.
I like tight trousers and leggings, I have a several home made gaffs that I use when I wear anything tight, I LOVE knowing that its all safely tucked away.
I would even say that the tight restricted feeling I get from tucking gives me added confidence, as long as I can feel that I know everything is well hidden.
I only tuck when I wear paricularly body hugging clothing, short skirts, and for special occasions where I wouldn't want to out myself by accidentally revealing a bulge otherwise I'm just fine without it.
I don't mess with official tucking at all, back when I experimented with tucking pre HT, it's was obnoxious to deal with. On HT I'm sure it would be less of a problem, but still the vast majority of clothes haven't been a problem. The single worst offending garment is a fitting pencil skirt. Satisfactory control is maintained for pencil skirts as well as swim suits with shape control panties.
I don't usually bother to tuck. Fortunately my panties are fitting just nicely that they don't cause any problems.
But once about six years ago, when I was wearing a nice dress and I was at a Flea Market, a friend had mentioned that I was bulging, so I went to the ladies room and fixed myself. Later when I was leaving, a manager approached me and asked if I had used the ladies room. I told him that I had, and he asked if I was a man or a woman. I told him that I was a woman, as he could plainly see. I left the Flea Market, but I heard that he had been repremended for doing what he had done instead of taking me someplace private. ;D
Quote from: Mayra Viamonte on August 07, 2013, 08:54:37 AM
Nice to have a good amount of initial opinions ^^
Now, the reason I ask. I used to tuck painfully at first. The first full year of HRT, I suppose. Then... I just stopped one day. It came alongside the total rejection of the notion of gender, and the self-classification as genderqueer. Losing the obligation to pertain to a6 pre-defined female realm, I just gave up hiding the bulge. I use jeans shorts and pants, and I think the bulge is reasonably noticeable if you pay attention. I don't use yoga pants tough, that'd be overly ridiculous... but aside from that, I just don't care anymore. And I thought that there is certainly people like that out there too.
Hence, the question.
I can tell you from experience "on the other side of the fence" that I really think most people don't look at/for crotch bulges. Especially if there's other things about you that read "female". Take for instance the fact that while I present as androgynous, if I have to interact with people or people I know I'm doing so under the guise of them thinking I'm female. I've gone out with either pants that accentuate that area, or actually packing and no one's even given me a second look.
So my opinion would be unless it's giving you serious dysphoria, be comfortable.
Well Mayra, good question, but
I'm not transitioning yet, and if I was to do the full monty and was to not tuck at some times, I would choose my clothes VERY carefully. Very, very, carefully.
I remember a female teacher I had in college ten years ago. She had short hair, tight jeans, and very often, a very disturbing side bulge, which to my opinion, was very much intended. Yet, she was not FtM. For an MtF individual, the effect would very much be the same, I would think it would be intentional. And I wouldn't understand why, in this case.
I want to say that if you even with a distracted look on people walking, you can see the presence of a "suspect" bulge or not. Even if you don't specifically pay attention to it.
With pleated skirts, I even do not need underwear panties for tucking.
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Quote from: Emoroffle on November 10, 2013, 11:54:21 PM
I only tuck when I wear paricularly body hugging clothing, short skirts, and for special occasions where I wouldn't want to out myself by accidentally revealing a bulge otherwise I'm just fine without it.
This is pretty much my style. Though I'm just back from a week at Cancun where I wore a home-made gaff while wearing my swimsuit which was often. Also since I partook of the female section of the spa most days, I didn't want to make other women uncomfortable with my presence, let alone me, if bulging. It all worked out fine.
What's tucking?
No, just kidding. I don't tuck, and I never will. For one thing, when I'm wearing tight feminine clothes I'm not large enough down there to make a bulge. Everything just kind of flattens out.
why bother? Im just blessed with "not all that" I guess.
Since I don't dress in public and only dress in the privacy of my own home I would say that I don't tuck but I think I might if I was out in public and was wearing something that would show my buldge but I would probably try and buy some sort of undergarment that would help me with that if I were to dress in public. I have tucked just for fun when dressing up at home and imagining that I had a vagina and have been thinking about buying those panties that have a fake vagina on the outside and just wearing those and seeing how that feels.
I've tucked daily for years and it's perfectly comfortable to me. I guess everyone is different.
I present and live as a male but tuck to prevent showing a bulge. However, I don't use anything to restrain it other than Jockey Elancee cotton panties.
I don't have any real use for those things and would be just as well off without them. I haven't used it for sex for almost 6 years and have not stood to pee since 1997.
I tuck under certain circumstances, but not as a rule. At the gym--when I'm wearing yoga pants--or while wearing a swimsuit. If I'm wearing a tight dress I might tuck but I'm also likely to be wearing pantyhose or leggings underneath which compress everything to the point where it's usually not necessary. In jeans I don't care a tremendous amount, though I do usually try to wear tops that are long enough to be yanked down for cover if need be.
It depends what I`m wearing I guess,shorts mini`s hotpants I always tuck.skirts tu tu`s don`t bother.As an aside I run a couple of times a week to keep in shape and I tuck when I do that.It just feels more comfortable without having your junk flopping all over the place!
On this topic, now that I'm a non-op (again basically) has anyone gone swimming at the beach without tucking?
Quote from: insideontheoutside on December 27, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
I can tell you from experience "on the other side of the fence" that I really think most people don't look at/for crotch bulges. Especially if there's other things about you that read "female". Take for instance the fact that while I present as androgynous, if I have to interact with people or people I know I'm doing so under the guise of them thinking I'm female. I've gone out with either pants that accentuate that area, or actually packing and no one's even given me a second look.
So my opinion would be unless it's giving you serious dysphoria, be comfortable.
Yep, yep. I pack every day and no one seems to have ever noticed. I've found that it has almost no bearing on the way I'm gendered ("almost" but not "none," if just because I tend to be much more comfortable in my skin when I pack, and if I'm lucky, that translates to being gendered correctly.)
I guess it depends by what you mean by "Tucking". I've read some pretty horrific getting Medieval on it's ass descriptions of "How-To". OMG! If I ever had to do that it's either cut the thing off, or.... go the KISS route. The LAST thing I every worry about is a panty check. That is followed by wearing anything that comes close to a second skin. At the most all I do is a panty girdle for a little better control.
Between HRT and AA's life in panties is different today then it was years ago. I can't remember the last time I had that painful "slippage" discovery when blood finally got to flow back into the gonad(s). But that was always a rare occurrence mostly driven by panty style and manufacturer.
no much left down there to tuck... just some tight panties,and voila smooth!!!
Su blog es muy interesante, y tu heres una carioca muy bonita
Luckly I do not have much down there to worry with tucking. HRT with lots of spiro have shrunk little things to almost nothing. However it will be a very nice day with all that extra skin is used to make a nice normal vagina. My body will finally look normal on that day.
I prefer to tuck as I don't like to show a bulge. However, it is difficult to keep it tucked.
I found wearing mens boxer shorts under my tights keeps my bits in check without hurting. i have some womens underpants but theyre a bit too lacy/silky/crossdressery and are just uncomfortable.
pleated skirt also a yes.
Quote from: alexbb on January 13, 2015, 03:06:04 PM
I found wearing mens boxer shorts under my tights keeps my bits in check without hurting. i have some womens underpants but theyre a bit too lacy/silky/crossdressery and are just uncomfortable.
pleated skirt also a yes.
I never liked boxers as they gave no support and let everything dangle. As for jockey and briefs, I gave up on them long ago as the frontal pouch put too much emphasis on the things. My choice now is Jockey brand Elance (women's) cotton panties.
I find tucking a bit difficult and uncomfortable so I wear androgynous clothes and really tight underwear
Really just looking forward to srs......
I have tried tucking just for fun, & the bulge make me feel like I have a 3rd breast between my legs &! I love that feeling! Actually I like to massage that 3rd breast with one hand while massaging one of my other breasts with the other hand. I wear loose pants anyway, so I don't have to tuck, But I really want to have the courage to wear dresses in public ( which I cant in the small town I live in) as dresses provide much more freedom. I cant imagine wanting to wear pants like so many women do today. One of my friends told me that if you want your testicles to shrink without surgery, to get a doctor to inject the testicles with lactic acid which will make them shrivel up. Then tucking will be less needed. Esther
Great topic!
and I just adore skater skirts. I'm just beginning my path, but as of now have no intention of going with full reassignment (in that area, I mean) nor do I think I will tuck.
Quote from: barbie on March 22, 2014, 11:57:26 PM
With pleated skirts, I even do not need underwear panties for tucking.
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I would like to be totally smooth there so there would be no need to be concerned about that.
it depends greatly on what i am wearing and where i am going or who im with
My choice it be be happy with what I have down there nomatter what.
but in a way, im proud of my buldge. :P
Quote from: Mlle.Lautys on September 09, 2015, 06:29:49 AM
My choice it be be happy with what I have down there nomatter what.
but in a way, im proud of my buldge. :P
Yes. That is exactly what I do.
Today about 1 hour ago:
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barbie~~
Nice! way to go girl!
Thats something I'm not ready for, i wear short swimwear.
For meow :)
Quote from: Mlle.Lautys on September 11, 2015, 11:55:43 AM
Nice! way to go girl!
Thats something I'm not ready for, i wear short swimwear.
For meow :)
Try bikini. Nobody pays attention to the bulge.
barbie~~
I've been tucking since I can remember for I hated the bulge and everything flapping around. My pubic area makes it easy to tuck I'm able to push my penis into a cavity I have then pull the ballsack up and it looks like I have a mound area like a normal cis woman. My body is weird half female half male .
I don't tuck, theres a buldge, I wear yoga pants and the whole 9 yards. I just don't care what anyone thinks, its rather large and so tucking is painful, screw it, why are you looking at my crotch anyway!
Quote from: Kathleenmarie on December 02, 2015, 01:34:38 PM
I don't tuck, theres a buldge, I wear yoga pants and the whole 9 yards. I just don't care what anyone thinks, its rather large and so tucking is painful, screw it, why are you looking at my crotch anyway!
I'm with you. I tried tucking and it just made for more rash time and discomfort. For now I still have a minor basket and the truth is OK. Nobodies business but our own ;D
Yeah I stopped tucking years ago, I don't see the point. After my testes shrank I don't have much of a bulge even if I wear tight pants, having a pelvic tilt helps tho
Never very large of a bulge here and it is shrinking, but i am not self-conscious about it at all. I wear bikini bottoms in the summer to the beach, i wear tight pants a lot.
I did try tucking and it worked and looked neat and everything, but not really enough of a factor for me to spend the time on it.
In time with proper HRT the things will shrink & go away anyway so no need to worry. Some material is needed for a nice vagina during GRS.
Quote from: FrancisAnn on December 03, 2015, 05:11:14 PM
In time with proper HRT the things will shrink & go away anyway so no need to worry. Some material is needed for a nice vagina during GRS.
Well now, "go away" may be wishful thinking or a euphemism but it's not really like the distal end of a severed umbilical cord that falls off. We gotta pay to make em go away :D One of my brothers thought the same thing but HRT doesn't work that well, darn it.
What tucking? I do not need tucking.
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Quote from: Tessa James on December 03, 2015, 06:21:03 PM
Well now, "go away" may be wishful thinking or a euphemism but it's not really like the distal end of a severed umbilical cord that falls off. We gotta pay to make em go away :D One of my brothers thought the same thing but HRT doesn't work that well, darn it.
hahaha, Did your brother think everything fell off from HRT & we automatically grew a vagina. That's funny. My little thing is small & I just hope the surgeon can create a nice normal depth vagina with such little to work with, ugggg.
Yeah, I used to wish it'd just invert itself properly. ;) I never tucked either; I just chose pants/bottoms that did a good job of concealing what was there. For the rare occasion when I had to risk something tight-fitting, I wore a women's girdle with a heavily reinforced panty part and let everything rest on that "shelf."
(Barbie, I admire your comfort with your body and I'm obviously not one to talk, but... yes, it's noticeable.)
Actually I don't mind the "bulge" as it make me feel like I have another breast, (which girls cant have) & it makes me anxious when I can have 2 more of them up on my chest! I like wearing long skirts, so the bulge is for my private world. Esther22
Being non-op I've never tucked, never had any reason or desire to. And I used to wear tight skinny jeans and leggings (by themselves, no skirt); I'm sure some bulge was showing subtly (or not-so-subtly in leggings/yoga pants), but I didn't let it worry me too much. It's my body, my natural anatomy that I'm fine with morphologically speaking, and I didn't think it was right to be pressured to go out of my way to tuck and conceal. Most people aren't walking around glaring at women's crotches all day, anyway. I never got ogled as far as I was aware, and nobody ever said anything to me about it (except my mom, lol, once early on before I explained).
Unless you're wearing super-tight bottoms or a swimsuit, I don't think it's the problem it's made out to be for most of us. I truly don't have to give it a second thought anymore, because I dress modestly now--maxi skirts, and long coats that cover that area--so it's a moot point as nothing's visibly protruding regardless. I fully understand why women with significant genital dysphoria would feel the need to tuck, but for the rest of us it's a non-issue IMHO.
Interesting conversation. I still present male so right now I don't worry about it but it's great to know that there are other less uncomfortable options.
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My penis is very small, so thankfully not really obvious.
I'm totally comfortable with my bulge considering it's just average size anyway plus I have come to realise that considering I'm confident about myself, I'm fine with being open about my sex and gender. In other words, yes, although I'm sometimes insecure about what other people may think of me because I'm a transsexual female with male genitals, I'm easily confident and mature enough to not pay any mind to people that don't like me.
I must say that I really do luv the original comment and the other reply comments on this topic.
Barbie's got the right idea!
And Charlie Nicki, girl, why do you present as male still while looking that gorgeous?
This was a pretty interesting read through! I don't understand where the pain or discomfort is supposed to come from, though. I'm way more comfortable when I tuck, and occassionally it just feels like it vanishes completely, and that makes me very happy.
I'm not HRT yet, and no plans for surgery. I don't have a super small pecker(yet!) but I enjoy tucking so much that I basically never untuck, I sleep tucked, too. I admit, I was nervous doing that at first(like I might hurt myself) but I haven't and I don't see any reason why I might at this point.
Quote from: Eryn T on May 27, 2018, 03:58:07 AM
Barbie's got the right idea!
And Charlie Nicki, girl, why do you present as male still while looking that gorgeous?
This was a pretty interesting read through! I don't understand where the pain or discomfort is supposed to come from, though. I'm way more comfortable when I tuck, and occassionally it just feels like it vanishes completely, and that makes me very happy.
I'm not HRT yet, and no plans for surgery. I don't have a super small pecker(yet!) but I enjoy tucking so much that I basically never untuck, I sleep tucked, too. I admit, I was nervous doing that at first(like I might hurt myself) but I haven't and I don't see any reason why I might at this point.
Hi Eryn, thanks for the compliment! I'll be going full time in the next couple of weeks.
Quote from: Eryn T on May 27, 2018, 03:58:07 AM
Barbie's got the right idea!
But, sometimes I do take care of tucking, especially when I wear tight short pants. Fortunately I mostly wear skirts.
barbie~~
My genitals are above average. Do any of you just wear a bikini without tucking, like at the beach or hotel swimming pool. Isn't it easier to just say this is who I am, breasts and a penis, deal with it?
I have nothing left that requires any hiding, but I would not wear a bikini anyway. manatees in bikinis never look good, and I can easily compete with a manatee looks wise!
Welcome aboard MPH,
I like your attitude. Yes, people can learn to deal with the realities of diversity that are no longer staying in some dark quiet closet. If someone is intent on checking out the camel toes, baskets and whatever lumps and bumps we all possess then that is on them. I/we need not respond in kind or too kindly, if at all.
I am just back from a trip to the Olympic National Park and Lake Quinault Lodge where we luxuriated in the pool and sauna. It is so fun to swim and I will not be excluded from the public sphere by little lumps or bumps. How bout you?
I literally have to tuck. I simply cannot abide the feeling of something down there. While smoothness is preferred as for as aesthetics are concerned, the main drive to tuck for me is not being able to tell it's there. If I can feel it, I did it wrong.
Quote from: Faith on March 22, 2019, 12:59:51 PM
I literally have to tuck. I simply cannot abide the feeling of something down there. While smoothness is preferred as for as aesthetics are concerned, the main drive to tuck for me is not being able to tell it's there. If I can feel it, I did it wrong.
Have you thought about an orchi Faith? I have nothing left to feel anymore, they cleaned me up pretty much down there!
Quote from: Manic Pixie Hollow on March 22, 2019, 11:10:18 AM
My genitals are above average. Do any of you just wear a bikini without tucking, like at the beach or hotel swimming pool. Isn't it easier to just say this is who I am, breasts and a penis, deal with it?
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