So every surgeon uses some of the penis glands for the clit, but in the videos i see they cut it down to size. What happens to the rest of it?? My understanding is that suporn uses the rest for a spot between the urethra and vaginal entrance. The other surgeons (bowers,mcginn,brassard...) just throw it away. What did the surgeons to with ALL of the glands during surgery?
The three reasons i'm gonna go with suporn are (1) he creates a "secondary sex organ" using the rest of the glands, (2) he uses the scrotum for the the vagina, (3) his inner labia have feeling in then so that you can feel when someone touches them.
It's just the way surgeons do things. Most of it is tossed as is a curious amount of skin tissues and the urethra mucosa. There is no one best way to do things, just different ways of solving problems that may or may not exist.
The glans or head of the penis is not all that big anyway, and the part containing the most nerve concentration does become your clitoris and clitoral hood, which can use a substantial amount of it. In my case (from Dr. Bowers) the urethral mucosa has become my labia minora, and I do get a small amount of self lubrication that helps with feel and smell also some of the penis itself was involved in the LM's, which means I have quite a lot of scrotal skin lining my vagina. As time goes by, that tissue too is becoming more moist, and gaining some similarity to mucous tissue.
As Flan said, each surgeon uses different parts for different reasons and places, but they all try to find some signifcance for as much as they can.
Do you get phantom sensation from discarded tissue areas- or does the brain remap itself really well?
(Not that it will change my mind on grs, im just a curious bunny)
I'm just saying.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,120547.0.html
Devlyn how could you, I'm eating!
EEEEEWWWW.
Gross, gross, gross, gross.
Okay, breathe. Breathe.
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The Keep Calm-O-Matic? Somebody owes me about twenty minutes of my life back! :laugh:
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on August 27, 2013, 08:48:42 PM
I'm just saying.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,120547.0.html
LOL Devlyn I remember that thread. I'm going to be sick again.
What no barbecue sauce?
But no seriously the Japanese have the oddest fetishes.
I don't want to save any of it for a reminder or otherwise after my SRS.
Hmm, considering the fact that I'm a radical vegetarian who sees all meat in the same light, I don't find it as weird as other people. Well, chalk up another reason as to why I'm crazy and out there,lol. ;)
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on August 27, 2013, 08:48:42 PM
I'm just saying.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,120547.0.html
:o
A lot of the Thai surgeons (eg Preecha, Suporn, Chett) also use the glans tissue to line the floor of the Vulva. As they don't fully detach it from the part formed into a clitoris it remains sensate and so increases the area of sensitivity.
I'm also unaware of *any* surgeons who don't create inner labia with full sensation (barring the usual sort of unintended outcomes such as nerve damage, which is a known complication). Most also do use the majority of the penis nerves to build the clitoris, as Vicky noted; what's being "thrown away" (when it is) is leftover skin, nothing important.
Alpo
there is like...a surprisingly small amount that most contemporary srs surgeons don't use. there is some all the parts of the buffalo stuff going on there. most of the medical waste is one of a few things: excess skin, corpora cavernosa, corpora spongiosa, and the testes themselves. significant among spared tissue is the ENTIRE neurovascular bundle of the pudendal nerve, wherein the dorsal nerve of the penis earns a new lease on life as the principal innervation of the clitoris. the total number of nerve endings is pared down, to be fair, as some of the endings perish along with the excess skin. what this does mean is that a typical post-operative trans woman has fewer nerve endings on her clit than a cis dude has on his penis (checking in at about 3500 on average), and a good deal fewer than cis women (with 8000), but the human body is pretty intensely capable of working with what it's got! it's true that trans women frequently have difficulty with orgasm, but that's not an uncommon affliction among women. some of it, obviously, can be chalked up to the fact that playing legos with delicate sensory nerves can do some damage, but some also has to do with a lack of accurate information about what makes women (cis or trans) feel good. the point is that the miracle of science can do some pretty amazing stuff to your junk and i'm a fan of it.