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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: kaiju on September 11, 2013, 10:23:33 AM

Title: emigrating from the US and documentation
Post by: kaiju on September 11, 2013, 10:23:33 AM
Long story short, I've been seriously looking into becoming a citizen of the United Kingdom. After living there long term and studying, in addition to working, I've wanted to move to be closer to the supportive members of my family that live there and the connections I've made. There are too many toxic people in my life here, and I feel safer being within a reasonable distance of those I care about as opposed to separated by an ocean. I've had my social security, driver's license, and pretty much all of my documents changed to male to reflect the proper gender and am currently waiting on an amended birth certificate. I don't know if anyone can answer this, because I've not really been able to find much on the topic and my family is not too certain either, but will all these changes to my US documentation remain when I move? Or will I have to undergo a whole new legal process to be recognized as male? Any help or links would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Title: Re: emigrating from the US and documentation
Post by: DriftingCrow on September 11, 2013, 10:27:51 AM
I don't know much about immigration laws, but. . .

if all your documents here (soon to be birth certificate) say M, how would they even find out you were FAAB? Unless you have to disclose it, you should just be able to put M on your emigration documents.

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edit to add: well, I guess if you need to list your medical conditions, then they'd find out.
Title: Re: emigrating from the US and documentation
Post by: kaiju on September 11, 2013, 10:33:38 AM
Unfortunately, my amended birth certificate will clearly state my former name and gender, regardless of my wishes. I should have specified. I live in a state where you can amend your documents, but the old information will still be made quite clear.
Title: Re: emigrating from the US and documentation
Post by: FTMDiaries on September 11, 2013, 10:45:10 AM
You can be recognised as male by the UK system, if that's what you're wondering. But you might need to apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate because your gender is not automatically regarded as having changed if it was changed outside the UK.

I recommend you email the Gender Recognition Panel at grpenquiries@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk and ask them what you'll need to do to be recognised as male in the UK. This is the government body that issues Gender Recognition Certificates, so they'll be able to advise you of your legal position. They can also tell you whether you need to bring any paperwork with you (you might need medical reports proving that you've transitioned).
Title: Re: emigrating from the US and documentation
Post by: kaiju on September 11, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
I'll shoot them an email and see what they say! Thanks for the information.
Title: Re: emigrating from the US and documentation
Post by: Kreuzfidel on September 11, 2013, 11:18:42 PM
I left the US for Australia 3 years ago - but I didn't have any of my documentation from the States changed and still haven't.  I had my name changed here in Australia and will soon be able to have my gender changed once I have a hysterectomy.  I am considered male by the tax office and generally by the healthcare system.  I intend on getting my US passport changed to M when I can afford the trip back to the States and time off work to have my name changed there first.  But it's been pretty easy for me to completely re-invent myself in Australia - and that's having NOTHING changed from the US.  So you should be okay.
Title: Re: emigrating from the US and documentation
Post by: Arch on September 11, 2013, 11:33:56 PM
Quote from: kaiju on September 11, 2013, 10:33:38 AM
Unfortunately, my amended birth certificate will clearly state my former name and gender, regardless of my wishes. I should have specified. I live in a state where you can amend your documents, but the old information will still be made quite clear.

Sounds like my birth state. Ignorant screwheads. That's why I haven't bothered to try to change my BC...well, it's the main reason.

Looks like you are on the trail of the information you need. I just came in to commiserate about our birth states. :P