Hello my dears
I'm currently nearing my 4th month of hormones (well estrogen 4 months, spiro 2 1/2 months) and have yet to see any slight changes in body hair. I was wondering when is body hair expected to slow, thin and fair up because having to shave every night is getting very tedious.
What are your experiences with body hair changes girls?
xx
It took around 2 years to go from bear to female with around 6 or 7 body waxes.
It took about 8 months for me, including a couple of wax jobs..
It's been 11 months and I don't notice any difference in my body hair. I started laser on my torso back in July and hope that 6 sessions of that will clear me up pretty well.
I was really, really hoping hormones would have helped me by now but I always heard that for some people that part can take years, if it ever happens at all.
Is it different for each person? I've heard conflicting threads about HRT getting rid of body hair. Luckily I'm not the hairiest person, but still...I'd prefer to not have to shave a different section of my body every darn day...
It should start once you get your T levels in the very low (dead) range and your E levels in a female range. That for me was when things started to turn from the BEAR hair corner. lol
Izzy
Unfortunately it does vary person to person. The key though is you neeed to get your T levels down to within the normal female range 0.0 to 2.5 maximum and your e Levels up to normal female range. It took me 5 months to get m T to a level under 0.5 and then after having had a full leg wax (now 10 weeks ago) the hair is finally coming again, but is very fine and barely noticeable. Before I would need a full leg wax and my bikini line done every 4 weeks.
On my back I was very hairy. After 6 full back waxes and now nearly 9 months on Oestrogen Theraphy, my hair is barely noticeable. But I am thinking now about Laser.
I have also has 4 Laser treatments on my décolleté and thankfully my black hairs on my nipples and aurealae have gone. As my nipples and breasts are now heading rapidly to a C Cup, I am thankful for this.
But it takes time.
The secret is getting your T level to well below 0.25.
Hugs
JudithLynn
Thanks for advise. I'm going to make sure my T level is very low & E level as high as possible so maybe my body hair will finally diminish. It's just terrible for now. I've only resumed lower levels of HRT for 3 months.
I started HRT at 17 (no blockers in those days) and didn't see much change (good or bad) from then until after SRS at 24. Within 2 years of SRS, ALL my body hair was gone, even arm pit hair!, and I was left with typical female pubic hair, though probably less than most. Facial hair became a bit finer but still required electrolysis eventually - of course I didn't have typical beard growth thanks to the HRT and being blond helped.
I'm not sure exactly when it started for me, because of all the laser removal. But it' like I woke up one day and noticed it all at once. Arm hair is more translucent, the hair down there is softer and way more feminine and less curly and leg hairs come in slower and softer.
ugh I cannot wait for that moment! It's going be a wonderful day when I don't have to shave every part of my body almost everyday lol.
I think it really depends on each person. Since I started HRT, I've had fast progress with everything.
With hair specifically, when I went full time I started shaving under my arms, my arms, hands, chest, belly, legs and feet. I was pretty hairy. After about a month of shaving and about four months of HRT, my arms, hands and feet only grow fine blond hairs, rarely ever any course dark hairs but they pop up occasionally.
I couldn't shave my back but it was really hairy before HRT. I can't feel any hair on the portions that I can reach. My wife told me that I only have a couple of small patches left. The hair on my butt is either fine and blond or non-existent. The hair under my arms, on my legs, chest and belly have started growing in more slowly.
Amy
Hey congrats on 4 months :)
I'm 11 months, almost 12 months in and I will say, it takes awhile for body hair to leave. In my previous life, I was pretty damn hairy ... I'm talking about dark hair and back / chest hair / long arm hair ... even on my hands! On top of that, I'd shave it and the next day it would be growing back ... it was pretty bad.
Keep in there --- I will say, after 8 months, most of my body hair had gone away. The first was the butt ... after it was my back hair ... then my arms lightened up and I had no more hair on my hands. Now, by 11 months, the chest hair is all but gone (very very little) and I shave my legs once a week.
If after a *year* you're not seeing results, you may have to get laser --- but don't get discouraged if you don't see results after 6 months, it really will come.
Quote from: itsxandrea on September 21, 2013, 04:26:54 PM
Hey congrats on 4 months :)
I'm 11 months, almost 12 months in and I will say, it takes awhile for body hair to leave. In my previous life, I was pretty damn hairy ... I'm talking about dark hair and back / chest hair / long arm hair ... even on my hands! On top of that, I'd shave it and the next day it would be growing back ... it was pretty bad.
Keep in there --- I will say, after 8 months, most of my body hair had gone away. The first was the butt ... after it was my back hair ... then my arms lightened up and I had no more hair on my hands. Now, by 11 months, the chest hair is all but gone (very very little) and I shave my legs once a week.
If after a *year* you're not seeing results, you may have to get laser --- but don't get discouraged if you don't see results after 6 months, it really will come.
Oh bum still got abit of waiting to go. Oh well as they say patience is a virtue :). Though it's weird, everything else is the same hair wise except my back which I recently noticed has lost a consider amount (Which is great because shaving the back is very awkward hehe).
Thank you girls for all the helpful insight, you girls are awesome! xx
For me, about 8-12 months. I got up to the max dose early on, though, about 6 months after starting. Still get body hair, but much lighter and finer than before...typically shave every 3 weeks or so (not necessary for visible hair, just for me because I don't like any body hair)
Hehe I can vouch for that hun, I hate body hair with a passion, hairless all the way!!
I'm older and it usually takes longer. Haven't really seen any changes yet...much to my chagrin.
Mine is oddly enough disappearing in reverse order of how it appeared. I had recently started growing hair on my back a bit before hrt. It was gone first. Nose hairs are no longer a problem. My chest is not too bad now and more manageable. My arms have turned lighter but I can't tell if its the effect of the sun or hrt. The part I hate is my face. The hairs have lightened up but still not gone after 6 light sheer duet sessions. I've switched to a dermatologist who does laser and seems more apt to turn up the power than the girls at the dime a dozen laser places so hopefully that works out a bit.
I've actually had some new body hair start to come through which is most distressing for me. I never had hair above my nasel or on my chest, I may of had one or two strands but since starting HRT after 7 months and having a very very low T level of about 0.4, i have started to grow some new dark hair. On other parts of my body the hair is growing back slower and is finer, but i couldn't understand why new body hair was growing. I started to see an Endocronoligist and he explained that Spirolactone, especially in higher doses can have that effect. I'm trying to lower my spiro dose, but given i am on quite a high dose of estradiol but a low dose of progesterone, the T isn't suppressed to the level it needs to be without AA's. I'm hoping that in a few months we can increase my progesterone.
as just about everyone else has said, it must really be different for us all...
i have very 'mediterranean' hair, ridiculously thick and dark, and though my body hair was never as thick as male members of my family
it was still very definitely there, and a problem to even begin my transition....
i noticed a gradual fining-up around eight months, and now, at eleven, my leg hairs are a little thicker, but sparser than those of my girlfriend.
i am finally getting to the point where shaving my legs doesn't cause days of problems after
....still working on the lower-back and navel area though. as soon as i'm done lasering up my face i think i'll have choice but to take it south.
terrible that a natural thing that all people have could make us all feel so terribly dysphoric.
Does HRT help at all to alleviate facial hair? I mean, does it at least make it grow in slower/finer? I know I've read a ton about getting electrolysis for facial hair, but I was just wondering whether HRT had any effects whatsoever.
Quote from: EeplesnBaneenees on September 25, 2013, 11:33:09 AM
Does HRT help at all to alleviate facial hair? I mean, does it at least make it grow in slower/finer? I know I've read a ton about getting electrolysis for facial hair, but I was just wondering whether HRT had any effects whatsoever.
I noticed that my facial hair was growing in slower on HRT, but wasn't getting any finer. As far as I know, hair shifts from vellus to dark hair due to trauma to the follicle/nearby skin. This mechanism is prompted by testosterone. HRT assists the hair removal by stopping the conversion to dark hair. It is the combination of laser/electrolysis to destroy existing fuzz and hrt to prevent usual regrowth that allows permanent dark hair removal.
I think was quite lucky regarding body hair in the first place, it's always been quite light and was only really noticeable on my legs and lower belly. It was when I finally got 2-3 wispy hairs on my chest at 29 that my dysphoria got really bad, realising that if I didn't do something soon that the rest of me was going to fill in!
Lol I know what you mean Kaylee!
I lucked out too. I have dark body hair on my legs and a very little on my chest and tummy, and thankfully none on my back. I seriously cannot wait to rid my body of all that pesky hair!
Is laser removal permanent? My roommate has a do-it-yourself laser hair remover kit. I was thinking about giving that a try, but was kinda nervous about using it around my face.
When is a good time to start electrolysis? I just started seeing my therapist, so I'll start HRT within a couple months, probably.
I haven't really noticed much, but I'm early into it and try to shave as much as possible (though I do get frustrated and lazy). The hair doesn grow back as fast and it's not as intense in some areas; however, it's not enough for me to feel satisfied. If you can afford it, I would just go for laser. I'm going to first go for my face and then consider getting everything else done if it isn't too bad; although, something is telling me it is, lol.
Quote from: learningtolive on September 25, 2013, 04:55:51 PM
I haven't really noticed much, but I'm early into it and try to shave as much as possible (though I do get frustrated and lazy). The hair doesn grow back as fast and it's not as intense in some areas; however, it's not enough for me to feel satisfied. If you can afford it, I would just go for laser. I'm going to first go for my face and then consider getting everything else done if it isn't too bad; although, something is telling me it is, lol.
It really isn't that bad! i've been getting it done on my chest/shoulders/back/underarms and even the most sensitive spots are a slight sting that only lasts a second or so. A lot of people compare it to somebody snapping a rubber band against your skin, but I think even that's worse than it actually is.
The face is definitely the most sensitive though, if you can handle that you can handle the rest of your body (well, save the brazilian area maybe) with no issue.
Quote from: EeplesnBaneenees on September 25, 2013, 04:39:11 PM
Is laser removal permanent? My roommate has a do-it-yourself laser hair remover kit. I was thinking about giving that a try, but was kinda nervous about using it around my face.
When is a good time to start electrolysis? I just started seeing my therapist, so I'll start HRT within a couple months, probably.
It's mostly permanent, though apparently yearly top ups can be necessary. I'm probably wouldn't recommend doing it yourself on your face, I'd be scared of accidently zapping something important...laser to the eye would not be fun!!!
How dark is your facial hair? Laser treats a wider area at a time. I get my entire face done each sitting and there is definite improvement after only 4 sessions, my plan is to do that until the dark hairs are gone then electro on any remaining fuzz if needed (hopefully the hrt will help with them as well.
If it's dark enough to take laser I'd go with that as a first port of call, then see what needs doing when the dark hair is dead.
I have my first consult with the vein an laser doctor friday at 2pm (tomorrow) to start hair removal they use IPO process not sure exactly what that means just yet but they say it less painful and will cover a larger spectrum of hair and face pigments. being a red head with light color facial hair I hope it works. I will post more about that method after I go and see what it is about.
Jerri
Quote from: abbyt89 on September 26, 2013, 07:38:57 AM
It really isn't that bad! i've been getting it done on my chest/shoulders/back/underarms and even the most sensitive spots are a slight sting that only lasts a second or so. A lot of people compare it to somebody snapping a rubber band against your skin, but I think even that's worse than it actually is.
The face is definitely the most sensitive though, if you can handle that you can handle the rest of your body (well, save the brazilian area maybe) with no issue.
Oh, I'm sure pain wise it's tolerable. Even if it weren't, I would still go through with it, lol. I was referring to financial strain more than anything. But it's getting tiring to constantly shave, so I'll see how much it is and compare the costs with the money I'm going to be making from my new job.
My facial hair isn't too dark. I'm a natural blonde, so my facial hair is a mix of darker hair and white hair. Luckily it doesn't grow that fast either. I'll probably give laser treatment a try first.
Yeah my roommate's laser hair thingy is kinda scary. Hurt like heck when turned up!!! I'm slightly apprehensive about using it on my face. Maybe after a few glasses on wine...
everything that i've read indicates that home lasers are a bit lacklustre ["entirely useless" is a more common phrase]
...whether that is because they really are a bit carp, or if it's because the people using and reviewing haven't given the necessary time, i don't know.
i'm up to my sixth professional session and it's only just starting to show a real effect.
it's certainly painful on the face, but speaking for myself, any pain is endurable to get rid of the hideous stubble that stands between me and The Pass.
it doesn't necessarily have to be ridiculously expensive, either; i got one of those Scoopon deal things and got six months worth of treatment [six-odd sessions] for $200 aud.
again, anything is worth finally being free of it.
18 months low dose. For reference:
E levels are 10% under endows usual target range for transition, T levels are extreme low male range.
Electro was complete over 10 years ago, but I have about a dozen or so remaining facial hairs that keep coming back. Growth rate on those are very slow - 4 days for stubble that is worth shaving.
Body hair on legs is getting wispy, the density dropping over time.
Thanks for the tip Laura! I might just use that home remedy kit to rid myself of a few hairs that decide to stick around after my professional sessions. I've found some excellent deals on Groupon, so I might have to check those out. By the way, you are beautiful Laura!
no problem! i am just glad that my experiences can be of help to someone at all! my only extra advice with the groupon thing is that you talk to the girls who actually perform the treatment and make sure they know what they're doing; i've had a couple of girls who just blustered through it and were worse than useless, but it's pretty easy to tell and once i bought it to the attention of the more senior members of the clinic they were all sympathies and help and striking the useless session from my account. as usual in the world communication is key ofc.
also, you're very sweet, but ssshhh..... i have SO FAR to go before i can even be considered human.. i'm just good at the Punk Sneer [tm] ;3
It sure would be nice. I'm going to get my T level way low & use patches to try & max out the E as much as alowed.
I have so much unwanted hair, it's just terrible, hate it.
Cyproterone acetate can help get rid of body hair but allowed to take depends on medical history etc...
Hope that helps a little :)
Thank you, I'll look into it. I'm in very good health.
How does it work???? Where can you buy it, scrip????
I'm so sick of all this hair I could cry. I want & deserve a nice woman's body
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Francis
I am sooooooo boooored of shaving. :P
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