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This will vary from one surgeon to another, Supporn is known for insisting on a longer healing period, (and indeed to some extent from one patient to another).
However here in the UK I believe the usual figure that my surgical colleagues would quote to patients is around three months as a minimum. Before that time tissue adhesion and revascularisation will not have happened and incisions may not have healed. Thus there is a greatly increased risk of tissue damage, infection, and possible necrosis.
Having said all that you must understand that I am still only a medical student and gender work is very unlikely to be my specialism. So if you really want a reliable answer I would ask your chosen surgeon.
Quote from: Doctorwho? on September 29, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
This will vary from one surgeon to another, Supporn is known for insisting on a longer healing period, (and indeed to some extent from one patient to another).
However here in the UK I believe the usual figure that my surgical colleagues would quote to patients is around three months as a minimum. Before that time tissue adhesion and revascularisation will not have happened and incisions may not have healed. Thus there is a greatly increased risk of tissue damage, infection, and possible necrosis.
Having said all that you must understand that I am still only a medical student and gender work is very unlikely to be my specialism. So if you really want a reliable answer I would ask your chosen surgeon.
I will be with Chettawut and I need to know cos I am a sex worker. The thing is the dysphoria is too high that I won't have time to wait and save more than the SRS itself and when I'm done with SRS I need to 'work' asap to pay my rent etc and that can't be too long, I can hang on on a friend only like 1 month maximum...
Maybe the Chett girls can reply me this...
Yes I think asking him would be wise. I think you can probably take my answer of three months as a bare minimum as being a fairly good indication though. From the medical training I have already had, I would be utterly astonished if it was much less than that really.
Yes there are a few people who have got away with cutting the corners - but they are fools in my opinion. If you take that risk the consequences, and repairing them, could be very expensive and in your case could cost you your livelihood.
So whatever you are told - please do take note of it and resist the temptation to cheat.
Depends on the doctor. Brassard's nurses said two months minimum, or until it feels comfortable. I didn't feel like testing it for quite a while longer than that. :)
Honestly, one month was too soon even for the incisions to have healed or even all the stitches to be out, and I would not have wanted to risk it - there are some VERY bad complications possible from overstraining a brand-new vagina, including fistula and prolapse, and that's aside from the serious risk of infection. One month was still soon enough that they had all these lectures and rules about being careful with the *dilator,* much less letting someone else hammer away in there.
wow that sounds painful. one month, are you serious?!chett tells you to wait three month. either that, or risk one of your clients to run away.
Quote from: Jenna Marie on September 29, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
Depends on the doctor. Brassard's nurses said two months minimum, or until it feels comfortable. I didn't feel like testing it for quite a while longer than that. :)
Honestly, one month was too soon even for the incisions to have healed or even all the stitches to be out, and I would not have wanted to risk it - there are some VERY bad complications possible from overstraining a brand-new vagina, including fistula and prolapse, and that's aside from the serious risk of infection. One month was still soon enough that they had all these lectures and rules about being careful with the *dilator,* much less letting someone else hammer away in there.
I am a Brassard girl and yes the 2 months was said as the Min but 3 months is writen on there paperwork. I am now almost 6 months out and still not wishing for anything like that to be there. I have healed without any issues but that whole area down there is not in the mood yet, but it is getting here soon.
I know some girls who have did it around the 2 months mark. But i feel it comes down to each person how they heal.
Could you do it at 1 month? maybe 2 or if you have issues maybe months later.
Izzy
Oh at 1 month it still looks ugly down there.
Quote from: lovelessheart on September 29, 2013, 06:20:11 PM
wow that sounds painful. one month, are you serious?!chett tells you to wait three month. either that, or risk one of your clients to run away.
3 months? OMG!!! :o I guess I'll need to be more patient, work and save more then. :-\ This dysphoria is killing me big time already. I'm getting effing old and milfy. I'm so late in life LATE LATE LATE... :embarrassed:
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on September 29, 2013, 06:48:19 PM
3 months? OMG!!! :o I guess I'll need to be more patient, work and save more then. :-\ This dysphoria is killing me big time already. I'm getting effing old and milfy. I'm so late in life LATE LATE LATE... :embarrassed:
3 months minimum for chett, I waited till almost 4 months however, sex combined with dilation is difficult, oh and the 3 months is if everything go's as planned and you don't have any complications.
calico can you pm? i cant im on cell.
Izzy : Good point about looks, too. Honestly, mine didn't start looking/feeling like genitalia (and not a surgical site with nasty healing/healed wounds) until at least 4 months!
Quote from: Jenna Marie on September 29, 2013, 08:32:02 PM
Izzy : Good point about looks, too. Honestly, mine didn't start looking/feeling like genitalia (and not a surgical site with nasty healing/healed wounds) until at least 4 months!
Same here around the same time. Once the hair really started to hide a few of the red areas of my scar line did i start to like how it looked.
Izzy
Quote from: calico on September 29, 2013, 07:24:25 PM
3 months minimum for chett, I waited till almost 4 months however, sex combined with dilation is difficult, oh and the 3 months is if everything go's as planned and you don't have any complications.
Someone just PM me and popped to me an excellent idea. She told me to do only anal under excuse I am having period. Does anal 'disturb' the recently 1 month operated vagina? Will anal sex hurt the neo-vagina? Is it ok to do anal when you're recenlty 1 month operated?
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on September 30, 2013, 03:13:29 AM
Someone just PM me and popped to me an excellent idea. She told me to do only anal under excuse I am having period. Does anal 'disturb' the recently 1 month operated vagina? Will anal sex hurt the neo-vagina? Is it ok to do anal when you're recenlty 1 month operated?
No definately not ok as the areas are to close together and you would risk anus to vaginal fistula which is severly not good, actually can be life threatening. 1 month post op you aren't gonna feel like doing much ,heck you will still have tons of stitchs which you won't be ale to explain,by 3 month most of the stitchs should be disolved. At 3 month I don't think is a good idea still as the suture line will finally have taken perment hold, don't want to risk opening a would by being impatient and risky.
Yeah, I would guess that anal is safer than vaginal sex, but still fairly risky. (Of course, ask the surgeon!) Some women have more pelvic space and the vagina isn't placed dangerously close to the back passage, but there's no way to know until afterward AND questioning closely if you're one of those, and fistula is not something you want to take chances on. It's pretty much the worst possible complication short of death, as I understand it.
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on September 29, 2013, 06:48:19 PM
3 months? OMG!!! :o I guess I'll need to be more patient, work and save more then. :-\ This dysphoria is killing me big time already. I'm getting effing old and milfy. I'm so late in life LATE LATE LATE... :embarrassed:
HEY "EVOLVING BEAUTY" THAT IS EXACTLY HOW IM FEELING TOO (dysphoria) ITS SO FUNNY! I feel like i'm a lil late but not too late
i'm 35yo. wish i did this when i was in my 20s but hey better later than never
im having my SRS in 5 months or so im very excited and also saving LOTS! Grrrrr hehe
I probably should stay out of this since I am not a Chett girl, but while my surgeon says 6 weeks post op, one PVI = 1 dilation, and at that point it was 3 dilations per day. At 6 weeks I hate to say it, but I was sore enough that while male companionship and a little sex talk would have been nice, I would have been VERY uncomfortable with him in control of the dilator. Think of it that way. The dissolving stitches nearest my anus were the last ones to go as well.
Quote from: Doctorwho? on September 29, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
This will vary from one surgeon to another, Supporn is known for insisting on a longer healing period, (and indeed to some extent from one patient to another).
However here in the UK I believe the usual figure that my surgical colleagues would quote to patients is around three months as a minimum. Before that time tissue adhesion and revascularisation will not have happened and incisions may not have healed. Thus there is a greatly increased risk of tissue damage, infection, and possible necrosis.
Having said all that you must understand that I am still only a medical student and gender work is very unlikely to be my specialism. So if you really want a reliable answer I would ask your chosen surgeon.
I agree with this. Every surgeon has different recommendations. I had my surgery done by James Bellringer in the UK (London). Ask the surgeon these questions, as he or she will know.
it is all individual. I was ready to have sex about 4 months after the surgery. But one month... No way. I think you should save some more money to pay rent and to live for at least 3 months before you can go back to work
I was a Biber girl and nothing was said about how long to wait. I was, however, under the care of a gynecologist during my healing and was seeing him weekly. At 5 weeks I asked him when I could have sex and he asked "Do you have someone in mind?" I just blushed because I didn't.
I lasted 6 weeks before I was seduced :o
On my next appointment with the gynecologist a few days later he started his exam and just started laughing. I blushed! ;D
LOL Northern Jane!
What I don't understand is how they can use the big dilators thing but cannot have intercourse. If I ask my partners to go slow, it'd be kinda the same thing right?
Not unless your partner was sterilized thoroughly beforehand *and* only made the sorts of movements the dilators do. :)
My instructions said very clearly and strongly NOT to move the dilator in certain ways (early on) or I'd risk rupturing something and causing serious damage. Also, even Brassard girls don't graduate to the biggest dilators until month 3, and from the conversation here I saw recently, that's the earliest surgeon schedule of the bunch.
Guess until you go through the whole process you will not really understand. It is one HUGE sore HOLE. Then even if you where at the 3 month mark and started to use the OMG (ORANGE MONSTER GUAGE) is still hursts and let me say the PC muscle is a bitch. I am at 6 months and it still is fighting back for me. Hard to get things past, still slow and easy.
When you have the GRS surgery you just do not get this huge hole that offers no resistance. For years it will be fighting back to close up and that is the part of healing. Healing always has some type of discomfort to it.
Maybe who knows, in the 1 month mark who knows what your life holds. But it could be hell if there is anything that goes wrong, up to years to get to the point or worst never. And i said it before up to around the 4 month or so mark does it start not looking like a surgery site and the scar lines start to get hidden by the hair re-growth.
You need to do what you need to do. There is no right or wrong answer here, everyone heals in there own time. Every surgery has it good and bad outcomes. It is MAJOR surgery not just a stich up after a fall.
Lots of luck and i hope you find what you wish in the future.
Izzy
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on October 05, 2013, 04:12:36 AM
LOL Northern Jane!
What I don't understand is how they can use the big dilators thing but cannot have intercourse. If I ask my partners to go slow, it'd be kinda the same thing right?
you don't really get "up" to the "big" dilator till at least month 4, also a lot of people thing the dilators are the same.....Wrong! Chet's set is actually smaller then several other surgeons, such as McGinn, Brassard, and Bowers and I believe even P.A.I I found this out abouth month 2 and actually purchase the blue, green and orange from soulsource enterprises and went to orange at month 4, IMO Chetts dilators are kinda sub-par because my now current bf is much lager than Chetts #4 which he said some may be unable to achieve ::) ....
Quote from: mind is quiet now on October 05, 2013, 11:19:05 AM
Guess until you go through the whole process you will not really understand. It is one HUGE sore HOLE. Then even if you where at the 3 month mark and started to use the OMG (ORANGE MONSTER GUAGE) is still hursts and let me say the PC muscle is a bitch. I am at 6 months and it still is fighting back for me. Hard to get things past, still slow and easy.
When you have the GRS surgery you just do not get this huge hole that offers no resistance. For years it will be fighting back to close up and that is the part of healing. Healing always has some type of discomfort to it.
Maybe who knows, in the 1 month mark who knows what your life holds. But it could be hell if there is anything that goes wrong, up to years to get to the point or worst never. And i said it before up to around the 4 month or so mark does it start not looking like a surgery site and the scar lines start to get hidden by the hair re-growth.
You need to do what you need to do. There is no right or wrong answer here, everyone heals in there own time. Every surgery has it good and bad outcomes. It is MAJOR surgery not just a stich up after a fall.
Lots of luck and i hope you find what you wish in the future.
Izzy
Totally agree with your post here, and unless shee gets the soulsource set of dilators, she will never get to experience the joy of Mr. Orange ::) oh and btw until at the very leasy your going to be having to dilate 3 times a day at bout and hour a piece, so clear your schedule doll, you wont be doing much for a bit
Quote from: mind is quiet now on September 29, 2013, 09:55:55 PM
Same here around the same time. Once the hair really started to hide a few of the red areas of my scar line did i start to like how it looked.
Izzy
Once healing has completed, you can use anti-scar cream to help with scar lines :)
Quote from: calico on October 05, 2013, 05:59:56 PM
Totally agree with your post here, and unless shee gets the soulsource set of dilators, she will never get to experience the joy of Mr. Orange ::) oh and btw until at the very leasy your going to be having to dilate 3 times a day at bout and hour a piece, so clear your schedule doll, you wont be doing much for a bit
Are you kidding? ONE HOUR of dilator 3 times per day meaning 3 hours of dilation PER DAY?!!! :o
evolving beauty, i think you should evaluate why you really want srs. maybe you should start with a gender therapist.
Quote from: nessa76 on October 06, 2013, 03:45:50 AM
Once healing has completed, you can use anti-scar cream to help with scar lines :)
yes i know, you are missing my point. I am still on the OPs original question and also on one of my replies. And even with scar cream it can take up to a year for the pink to go out of them. For me i have scars 2 years old that still hold some pink, but thats just how i heal.
It is ugly down there up to 4 months or until the hair get longer and hides the scar line.
This is major surgery with many, many scar lines both outside and inside. There are chances of great problems that could happen post op.
All my answers where to help the OP understand what she is getting into and the fact she is a .... worker it is not going to be easy for her for first few months at least if she does not have any issues.
Izzy
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on October 06, 2013, 04:30:11 AM
Are you kidding? ONE HOUR of dilator 3 times per day meaning 3 hours of dilation PER DAY?!!! :o
nope that's pretty much what he wants his patients to do, if not that at the bare minimum twice a day at an hour each. (which is what I am doing now) but for the first 3 months I was doing 3 times a day, it really killed my schedule and fun time :-\ but it could be worse some dr's request up to 5 times a day
Quote from: mind is quiet now on October 06, 2013, 10:32:08 AM
yes i know, you are missing my point. I am still on the OPs original question and also on one of my replies. And even with scar cream it can take up to a year for the pink to go out of them. For me i have scars 2 years old that still hold some pink, but thats just how i heal.
It is ugly down there up to 4 months or until the hair get longer and hides the scar line.
This is major surgery with many, many scar lines both outside and inside. There are chances of great problems that could happen post op.
All my answers where to help the OP understand what she is getting into and the fact she is a .... worker it is not going to be easy for her for first few months at least if she does not have any issues.
Izzy
I'M SAVED!!! Chett said I can do anal the after 6 weeks.
Your doctor will tell you.