....or just a mean, vindictive witch? I mean listening to this woman talking to Elizabeth Edwards on the phone and then later saying something about wishing John Edwards had been killed in a terrorist attack. I know she has a new book out and some people will stoop pretty low to promote their writings but this may be a new low, even for a Repulsiveican.
Beverly
She's just reflecting her audience. There'd be no money in her views if people didn't want to hear them.
I always tend to think anyone who is intentionally THAT mean and cruel is fighting some serious emotional issues. I'm sure she'd laugh at that suggestion, as it sounds vindictive of ME to say that, but seriously... I just can't believe that self-accepted and loving people would ever act like that without SOMEthing going on inside them. I don't think she's mentally ill or sick or a witch or whatever... just someone with unresolved issues of some sort that are eating her up inside.
~Kate~
I think she's intellectually vacant and a big windbag; almost all she says is incoherent. It takes talent to be that project such emptyness... She's the dittohead's champion and hopefully they're a dying breed.
Paris Hilton has probably more impact on US political opinions than her.
It really bothers me that there are so many people who are like this when it comes to political issues. I see it on both sides of the fence. It is such a distraction when it comes to resolving problems. It is also a sad truth that most of them on the air are vicious conservatives spewing venomous hatred.
I did hear the Edwards/Coulter phone conversation and I'm thrilled with the way Ms Edwards handled herself. She has brought this issue to the forefront. I am sickened with the pollution that fills the airwaves.
As for Coulter, I have no idea what her gig is. I don't know if it is a show or not. But I do recognize the way she deals with confrontation. She can't stick to the subject and she pulls in sundry "factoids" that are irrelevant to throw off her opponent. I used to be married to someone who was so good a that. In any case, she's making lots of money from her hatred. It's sick.
Cindi
Posted on: June 28, 2007, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: Keira on June 28, 2007, 02:20:24 PM
I think she's intellectually vacant and a big windbag; almost all she says is incoherent. It takes talent to be that project such emptyness... She's the dittohead's champion and hopefully they're a dying breed.
Paris Hilton has probably more impact on US political opinions than her.
Unfortunately, they both have more influence than we'd like to think. I noticed that Michael Moore was preempted from a Larry King interview about his new film for Paris Hilton.
Cindi
It's not so much that Ann Coulter doesn't like John Edwards; she just hates his politics. This is true with anyone in varying degrees. Michael Moore hates Bush's politics, liberals and conservatives disagree on their positions rather than hate each other. It's the same about any topic. That's what makes the world go round. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Gennee
I am sure she isn't crazy.
She is making a ton of money doing what she does, so she continues.
What blows my mind is that she is making a ton of money doing what she does because there are people out there that support it.
She took the ideological spin that the right pushed, "Librals are Anti-American and Godless and therefore they are our enemies" and she sells it through her actions and speech, and makes quite a bit of money doing it.
Honestly, it makes me sad because the political landscape is no longer about debate, free ideas and free speech, it is about attack and hatred. The division within our nation will be our downfall.
Jessica
Well, if you are bored you can Google Ann Coulter and transsexual and it makes for some amusing reading. I am not saying she is, but it is an open question.
The one thing I can say about her is she is a bigot. I don't care for her and I wished she would just go away.
She's not crazy.
She's wildly successful at what she does, the same way that the band KISS was wildly successful at what they did. (THEY even admitted their music sucked.)
It's the same way that Resident Bush is wildly successful at achieving Fundamentalist Conservative goals.
What she's doing WORKS, and will continue to work -- until it doesn't any more.
Karen
she masks her ignorance with over the top hyperbole. personally, i feel that if she bit my dog, i would be worried about the dog contracting an incurable form of rabies. you're right though, she is just another raving lunatic who has no substance. she is raving and ranting just to make a quick buck. i hate her.
Ann Coulter is an awful person, plain and simple.
Quote from: Cindi Jones on June 28, 2007, 02:25:58 PM
I noticed that Michael Moore was preempted from a Larry King interview about his new film for Paris Hilton.
Cindi
I saw Micheal Moore talking to Jon Stewart last night. He said that King bumped him. I never watch Larry King no matter what.
Quote from: Keira on June 28, 2007, 02:20:24 PM
Paris Hilton has probably more impact on US political opinions than her.
Please don't get me started on Paris Hilton. Is there a more useless waste of a human being anywhere on the planet? This woman does nothing, produces nothing, has apparently never been punished for anything in her life up until now and yet is all over the television. We are in the middle of a war we cannot win the way it is being waged and half the country is worried whether the sheets in jail were too scratchy for her soft rich Beverly Hills butt. With crap like this blanketing our media, it's no wonder we keep electing rich old men to office and then being surprised when they pass laws that benefit other rich old men and step on the middle class.
Beverly
I turned the show off after the Elizabeth Edwards phone call. I'm not sure why anybody would buy an Ann Coulter book and put one nickel into her pockets. I think it says a lot about American society, unfortunately.
Ann, well, she's is typically rude, illogical, dogmatic and defensive I have more respect for Paris Hilton than Ann Coulter. They're both vapid, clueless idiots; atleast Paris is funny, Ann isn't.
I needed a shower after listening to the female version of Adolf Hitler. eeeek!
Ann Coulter is what happens when someone slips through the S.O.C., IMNSHO.
Quote from: Keira on June 28, 2007, 02:20:24 PM
I think she's intellectually vacant and a big windbag; almost all she says is incoherent. It takes talent to be that project such emptyness... She's the dittohead's champion and hopefully they're a dying breed.
Paris Hilton has probably more impact on US political opinions than her.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Oh c'mon girl: tell us how you really feel.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Thundra on July 01, 2007, 03:54:43 AM
Ann Coulter is what happens when someone slips through the S.O.C., IMNSHO.
I get this impression too, but I think (maybe I remember wrong) that people who knew her as a yout (my
my cousin vinnie reference of the day) recall what kind of person she was like. I wonder if she paid them to refer to her as a girl? :-\
Ann Coulter is a Nazi that reflects the core Republican base in the United States.
I really could see no difference between her and the fascist propagandists in the the 1930's.
It shows me that the GOP in the US is not much different than the fascists that plagued Europe. It is sad that very few people (save for Keith Olberman and John Stewart) are calling these people out for what they really are: hateful corporatist right wing religous bigots, that are essentially showing the darkest side of America, the side of slavery, segragation, bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and hate. There is not much difference between Ann Coulter and the KKK. Except she has a prettier face, but the ideas are essentially the same.
Neo-Con is essentially the same thing as Neo-Nazi, but in a suit and a TV network called FOX NEWS.
Hopefully America will wake up before its too late, but seeing the recent supreme court decisions, we are already having decades of progress being pulled back by this fascist regime.
Quote from: Keira on June 28, 2007, 02:20:24 PM
I think she's intellectually vacant and a big windbag; almost all she says is incoherent. It takes talent to be that project such emptyness... She's the dittohead's champion and hopefully they're a dying breed.
Paris Hilton has probably more impact on US political opinions than her.
[laughing heartily, shaking her head]
Oh, you slay me, girl. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yours was one of the first things which I read when I awoke this morning and I am sure glad that I did.
I'm archiving yours Keira; sometimes I really need a good laugh. :) :( :'( :) :)
Quote from: Keira on June 28, 2007, 02:20:24 PM
I think she's intellectually vacant and a big windbag; almost all she says is incoherent. It takes talent to be that project such emptyness... She's the dittohead's champion and hopefully they're a dying breed.
Paris Hilton has probably more impact on US political opinions than her.
Keira, I really wish that was the truth. Sadly she has a good deal of influence in America and is regularly a key-note speaker at major republican/conservative conferences here. You have only lived in San Fran, a place where she is considered a joke. But her words and opinions reflect the core of the American right. She has a larger degree of influence than you could imagine. It is really sad state we are living here in the US. I am fighting the good fight, but I am well aware of the realities and I take them very seriously. Brushing off Ann Coulter and those of her fundie ilk is a major mistake that the left has done for to long. We have to address her like the threat to democracy she and the right in the US really are.
Quote from: Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter: I know he got a bad rap because there are no monuments to Joe McCarthy. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies.
I think that pretty much says it all.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Quote from: Elizabeth on July 02, 2007, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter: I know he got a bad rap because there are no monuments to Joe McCarthy. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies.
I think that pretty much says it all.
Love always,
Elizabeth
I'd like to know what is wrong with soviet spies. Everybody thinks it's okay for them to have spies and no one else should have spies. I'm only half kidding.
I'd like to spy on Ann Coulter. I wonder if her smelly totalitarian friends will allow me to spy on her without a warrant?
All I can say is "what goes around comes around". This self righteous movement will cease someday and there will be a backlash. Those who are bigots will get their due.
Cindi
Poor Ann, her ears must be on fire by now....LOL
tink :icon_chick:
Quote from: Tink on July 02, 2007, 07:25:15 PM
Poor Ann, her ears must be on fire by now....LOL
tink :icon_chick:
If not, they will be when I get my hands on her. >:D heh heh heh >:D
Quote from: Elizabeth on July 02, 2007, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter: I know he got a bad rap because there are no monuments to Joe McCarthy. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies.
I think that pretty much says it all.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Ever think the whole thing is a very elaborate joke, with the actual intent of discrediting the right?
Quote from: None of the Above on July 02, 2007, 08:30:42 PM
Ever think the whole thing is a very elaborate joke, with the actual intent of discrediting the right?
Yes, Ma'am, I have.
Quote from: Lori on June 28, 2007, 05:59:33 PM
Well, if you are bored you can Google Ann Coulter and transsexual and it makes for some amusing reading.
chuckles. she has super high cheek bones with scarily deep eye sockets and she is so classless, rude, and uneducated of common sense. even in her glamour shot i would not want to get near the picture of ugliness. so there...
Quote from: None of the Above on July 02, 2007, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth on July 02, 2007, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter: I know he got a bad rap because there are no monuments to Joe McCarthy. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies.
I think that pretty much says it all.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Ever think the whole thing is a very elaborate joke, with the actual intent of discrediting the right?
I have considered that. The truth is, she is an educated lawyer. I just find it impossible to believe she believes the things she says. No one of her intelligence could believe what she claims to believe. And she is getting really rich while doing it. Her views are so extreme, I just have to believe she must laff her head off after doing interviews. No one could really believe those things, could they? I mean Joe McCarthy should have a monument erected to him? Come on? Not even the hardest right wingers I know, would go along with that.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Quote from: Perchance on July 03, 2007, 02:09:36 AM
And, finally, does her appearance or gender history really affect the quality of her arguments?
what quality? ha ha ha ha ha she's a moron. plain and simple
Quote from: Perchance on July 03, 2007, 02:09:36 AM
Or are you simply hoping that personal dislike for her will, irrationally, taint the statements she makes?
yes and no, so there...
Quote from: Perchance on July 03, 2007, 02:09:36 AM
It really offends me when people call her ugly or say that she is a transsexual when they are slandering her.
I mean, seriously. Do men have their opinion insulted based on how they look? Do we ever wonder if, say, Bill O'Reilly is ftm? And do we have such a huge amount of internalized cisgenderism that it is so easy to use transsexual as a negative term?
And, finally, does her appearance or gender history really affect the quality of her arguments? Or are you simply hoping that personal dislike for her will, irrationally, taint the statements she makes?
Here is Maddox's blog on O'Reilly Titled
"Bill O'Reilly is a big blubbering Vagina"
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly)
I guess the answer is, men are attacked in the same manner.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Quote from: Perchance on July 03, 2007, 02:16:06 AM
Quotewhat quality? ha ha ha ha ha she's a moron. plain and simple
In what way is she a moron? And can you even use such a one-dimensional term to describe someone who you've never gotten to know very well?
i'm using the same one-dimensional term you're using little girl.
i'd better say young lady. ;)
I'm not one of thosre who insulted her looks, Perchance,
she could look like Hulk or Cindy Crawford, I don't care.
What does bother me is that
her arguments are always baseless, no way they can EVER resist scrutiny.
But in her audience really wants to know that they're "house of cards",
no one, she panders to people who will never question her, takes every words
she says at face value, same thing with O'Reilly.
Even if she had someone of any quality debating her face to face,
which happens once in a blue moon, she would do the same
thing as O'Reilly, playing up to her adoring TV crowd, and never really talking
to the person in front of them.
well, just in case you haven't noticed, ann coulter's ideology is about getting attention and making money, it is not at all about politics. she's an attention whore (there is my noun, tink ;)), who may at one time have honestly believed in conservative principles, but who has gotten a taste of the heroin of fame and like a junkie, has to go further and further to get that next fix, to the point that she's tossed all of her principles to the wind and stopped actually defending a point of view, preferring instead to simply malign one she disagrees with.
and, you'll note, she rarely even attacks the [substance] of a liberal [or non neoconservative] argument, she goes for the ad hominem attack.
But as long as people respond and it gets her book sales and chances to speak on television, ms. coulter will continue to write more and more slanderous, outlandish and [it appears] plagiarized prose.
What this country really needs is to return to substantive debate of the issues and what it'll take to fix the problems we face, not mud slinging, hoping we can tar the other guy worse than he can tar us so that we win regardless of whether our argument is the stronger one [or even has any logical merit at all]
you wanted to hear my [why's]? there they are.
Quote from: Perchance on July 03, 2007, 02:22:38 AM
The article doesn't actually insult his appearance very much, though. He isn't called ugly at all and the vagina reference is used to say that he is "a lesser being just like a woman" rather than "he is a female-to-male transsexual".
I would argue that there is quite a significant difference between being a vagina and having one.
New thread: If you were a vagina, would you want to be one that's seen a lot of action? Or No?
Posted on: July 03, 2007, 07:08:08 AM
I agree with Perchance that we should not attack a person's appearance under any circumstance when it comes to disagreeing with that person.
We should be attacking the beefhead producers of these shows who give her air time. Some of the shows that allow her to speak are supposed to be news and not entertainment shows. But I don't expect much integrity from television people.
If I had a show, I would not ever give coulter a platform no matter what. Not even for entertainment value. I would never allow Rush Limbaugh on one of my shows either. But I am just a poor being with no means or media muscle.
I really would like to spy on Coulter, though. I am curious about how she really thinks. If what we see is some kind of marketable persona, I'd like to know how much time she spends preparing it. also, I'd like to use her credit card info to spend her money on the homeless and the mentally ill as fast as she can earn it.
By the way, I do respect the opinions of morons. I have to in case I turn out to be one. DON"T ANSWER THAT!!!
Quote from: Elizabeth on July 03, 2007, 02:07:56 AM
Quote from: None of the Above on July 02, 2007, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth on July 02, 2007, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter: I know he got a bad rap because there are no monuments to Joe McCarthy. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies.
I think that pretty much says it all.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Ever think the whole thing is a very elaborate joke, with the actual intent of discrediting the right?
I have considered that. The truth is, she is an educated lawyer. I just find it impossible to believe she believes the things she says. No one of her intelligence could believe what she claims to believe. And she is getting really rich while doing it. Her views are so extreme, I just have to believe she must laff her head off after doing interviews. No one could really believe those things, could they? I mean Joe McCarthy should have a monument erected to him? Come on? Not even the hardest right wingers I know, would go along with that.
Love always,
Elizabeth
EXACTLY. See, I avoid these right-winger nut cases and their jabber like the plague, don't even give 'em any thought, they ain't worth it. However, this thread, with the transsexual angle, hey I googled that, you betcha!
Combine what you said, Elizabeth, with the fact that she sure appears to have an adam's apple, and I think it's a set-up. There's too much over-the-top stuff going on here.
Posted on: July 03, 2007, 11:26:30 AM
Quote from: RebeccaFog on July 03, 2007, 07:20:37 AM
Quote from: Perchance on July 03, 2007, 02:22:38 AM
I would argue that there is quite a significant difference between being a vagina and having one.
New thread: If you were a vagina, would you want to be one that's seen a lot of action? Or No?
Define
a lot of action. Before I can even try and answer...
It all started with Rush. Now the official pattern is to be mean and offensive. A talking head that acts like a lady or gentleman can't get an audience anymore.
I have no problem attacking Ann Coulter and her character, since she has demonstrated that she has no character, no respect for anyone who disagrees with her and hence does not deserve my respect.
Quote from: None of the Above on July 03, 2007, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: Perchance on July 03, 2007, 02:22:38 AM
I would argue that there is quite a significant difference between being a vagina and having one.
New thread: If you were a vagina, would you want to be one that's seen a lot of action? Or No?
Define
a lot of action. Before I can even try and answer...
[/quote]
Action = Combat experience in Vietnam, Iraq, the Russian front, and such.
Would I wanna be a vag having seen that kinda action. Ok, I'd say - no. Not on those particular fronts.
I didn't know "vag" is a word. I'm going to find reasons to use it more often.
Vag ya later
If we become desensitized to these people, we are doing a disservice to ourselves. For there are many people who do listen to them and believe them. Unfortunately, this is the same strategy that was used in Nazi Germany while Hitler was rising to power. No, we are not Nazi Germany. But once your get a good part of the population behind you for emotional reasons, you don't need to reason.
Remember that ole Adolf was elected with only 30 percent of the vote (or something like that, I'd welcome someone providing the correct number). He didn't even need a majority of support to do the things he did. Once he gained control of the government, no one could object for fear of their very life.
He was propped up by propaganda and hate... just like we see now... there is no difference in that aspect of what was and is going on. He slowly took away basic rights until there were none left. No one objected while this was going on. And look at where it led.
The voices that serve this slop are serving to do this very thing in our society. If you aren't involved in writing your congress people and other political venues to put an end to the current administration, then you deserve what's in store for you... utter subjugation. Enjoy.
Cindi
Quote from: Cindi Jones on July 03, 2007, 07:06:50 PM
If we become desensitized to these people, we are doing a disservice to ourselves. For there are many people who do listen to them and believe them. Unfortunately, this is the same strategy that was used in Nazi Germany while Hitler was rising to power. No, we are not Nazi Germany. But once your get a good part of the population behind you for emotional reasons, you don't need to reason.
Remember that ole Adolf was elected with only 30 percent of the vote (or something like that, I'd welcome someone providing the correct number). He didn't even need a majority of support to do the things he did. Once he gained control of the government, no one could object for fear of their very life.
He was propped up by propaganda and hate... just like we see now... there is no difference in that aspect of what was and is going on. He slowly took away basic rights until there were none left. No one objected while this was going on. And look at where it led.
The voices that serve this slop are serving to do this very thing in our society. If you aren't involved in writing your congress people and other political venues to put an end to the current administration, then you deserve what's in store for you... utter subjugation. Enjoy.
Cindi
Part of the reason that the hatemongers are against the mexican immigrants is that those immigrants aren't going to just fall in line. You need a really
homogeneous population to get the best subservience. I think. The immigrants want a good life that accepts differences in people.
Note that the word 'homo' is in the word that describes what the haters would prefer as a society. I wonder if I told them that if they would get all uptight and start allowing for a heterogeneous society. [snicker]
Actually, the current administration wants to keep the immigration situation as it is.
It's the current incarnation of slave labor.
If everyone had to pay a living wage for workers, there would be citizens lining up to do those "jobs that no one wants to do."
My solution to immigration? Mandate minimum wage for EVERY job. Every worker pays standard taxes, FICA and Medicaid and also receives corresponding benefits. Every employer pays employment taxes. Let the IRS enforce the laws That would turn corporate America on its ears.
Cindi
Quote from: Cindi Jones on July 04, 2007, 02:13:43 AM
Actually, the current administration wants to keep the immigration situation as it is.
It's the current incarnation of slave labor.
If everyone had to pay a living wage for workers, there would be citizens lining up to do those "jobs that no one wants to do."
My solution to immigration? Mandate minimum wage for EVERY job. Every worker pays standard taxes, FICA and Medicaid and also receives corresponding benefits. Every employer pays employment taxes. Let the IRS enforce the laws That would turn corporate America on its ears.
Cindi
The
administration wants the status quo, but the chumps that it represents seem to want no immigration. That's why some of these politicians blew off Iraq, but are standing up to criticize "their own president" because they think the immigrants want to give us leprosy and VD. and, of course, they want to limit the number of brown skinned peoples.
I should have specified that in my last post.
Wow, Ann Coulter to Rush to immigration to vaginas to slaves. This is some kind of thread. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjumi.lut.fi%2F%7Ejunousia%2Fhymiot%2Fthink%2Fvaikeapaatos.gif&hash=ee72732a75daf6866362e3699be208acd87a147b)
Is she crazy? Not at all. She knows exactly what she is doing. She is the Howard Stern of the far right. She's selling a book, pure and simple. How many of us would have even known about it (much less cared) if she hadn't ripped Elizabeth up? She's mean spirited, bigoted, and egotistical, but not stupid. I, for one, do not care to become like her by attacking her. If you are doing that, you are giving her more publicity, and hurting your cause more than helping. She would be proud of this thread. It's just the kind of thing she was hoping would happen.
Kristi
Quote from: Kristi on July 04, 2007, 03:05:29 PM
Wow, Ann Coulter to Rush to immigration to vaginas to slaves. This is some kind of thread. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjumi.lut.fi%2F%7Ejunousia%2Fhymiot%2Fthink%2Fvaikeapaatos.gif&hash=ee72732a75daf6866362e3699be208acd87a147b)
Is she crazy? Not at all. She knows exactly what she is doing. She is the Howard Stern of the far right. She's selling a book, pure and simple. How many of us would have even known about it (much less cared) if she hadn't ripped Elizabeth up? She's mean spirited, bigoted, and egotistical, but not stupid. I, for one, do not care to become like her by attacking her. If you are doing that, you are giving her more publicity, and hurting your cause more than helping. She would be proud of this thread. It's just the kind of thing she was hoping would happen.
Kristi
We're not buying her stuff. And thanks for reminding me to use my new word in the next sentence. "I hold my ann coulter opinions as a vag of honor".
Quote from: RebeccaFog on July 04, 2007, 03:20:38 PM
We're not buying her stuff. And thanks for reminding me to use my new word in the next sentence. "I hold my ann coulter opinions as a vag of honor".
I think this is an appropriate place to use your word.
Irish author Brendan Behan once said, "There is no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary." Personally, I find it to be quite true in Ann Coulter's case.
Peace,
Kristi
Ann Coulter? She's a bimbo Nazi. Rush on estrogen (or maybe not). If this is the best the big scary Red states can cook up, well no wonder I spend most of my time laughing at Fox News. ;D
I guess Coulter thinks she's hot stuff by name calling on the TV. BUt I suppose I shouldn't complain because I can be just as bad.....ooga booga :icon_chainsaw:
Absolutely not.
Ann Coulter is trying to sell Ann Coulter. She knows she outrages some people. She knows her ideas are moronic and simple-minded. This is a very intelligent woman who is having a very successful career by being a douche bag. And there is nothing wrong with that because this is America damnit and douche bags are protected under the constitution :laugh:
Yes....then again I have First Amendment rights to give people gray hair too..... ;D