I've gone through many labels for my gender identity in the past but I can't find one that fits quite right. I was curious as to what labels everyone's heard or uses or has thought about or come up with. I would love to be able to say to someone "I am...[gender]" and have it not only make sense, but not be too revealing about my physical traits (ex that doesn't apply to me:"post-op transexual woman"), yet still be specific enough to be applicable. So every label you've found interesting etc. I'd be interested to hear. (the Internet doesn't have very comprehensive lists)
Thanks!
I think you are one of the first I ever saw looking for a label. Personally I know who I am. I have no need to go telling anyone. I look like me.
Most people seek a label for who they are whether it is gender or some other feature. It helps you to find out where you fit in the world, who else is like you so you can feel you are a part of something and get support and understanding. We're all here because we've been able to label ourselves as transgender. Without that, we'd likely never meet each other
Never labeled myself as transgender so it isn't all of us. We also have a number of SO's who don't necessarily accept being called transgender.
Ok I'll rephrase. We're all here because of the label transgender.
Quote from: <3 on November 03, 2013, 12:10:11 AM
Ok I'll rephrase. We're all here because of the label transgender.
I'd tend to disagree. I think we are here because we seek acceptance no matter what labels are used. The one commonality 'we' have no matter who or what we identify as is a general lack of acceptance in 'normal' society.
In Australia the official government documents now have M, F, O - for other.
All my documents are marked F, 'cos that's what I am; end of story!
Quote from: Simply_Sir on November 02, 2013, 07:57:42 PM
I've gone through many labels for my gender identity in the past but I can't find one that fits quite right. I was curious as to what labels everyone's heard or uses or has thought about or come up with. I would love to be able to say to someone "I am...[gender]" and have it not only make sense, but not be too revealing about my physical traits (ex that doesn't apply to me:"post-op transexual woman"), yet still be specific enough to be applicable. So every label you've found interesting etc. I'd be interested to hear. (the Internet doesn't have very comprehensive lists)
Thanks!
An earlier post:
Quote from: Simply_SirMy gender identity is always changing, I think. Some days I feel like my head is a boy, sometimes I feel like my emotions are a girl, sometimes I feel like my heart is everything all at once, sometimes I feel like my spirit is nothing at all. I'm not sure if that makes sense. Maybe we can't change out genders, but can our genders change? Can they change us?
How about "genderfluid"?
I can be a man and not transgender. Therefore not searching or claiming the label.
I have more of a disease and I have had many but I am not measles or mumps, nor do I ever hope to be one.
I am going to agree with <3 (that name is so hard to relate to by the way <3 :) ).
I didn't come here to hang out, it's all about my needing answers and the people here have them.
It is nice I have found TG people that like models and anime, as I am fairly sure my response to saying I was TG where I frequently go for model based chats, would fall on it's face rather efficiently. I dumped my usual anime haunt because the people that were there really weren't receptive to me being me.
But it is just a happy coincidence that some here have similar interests.
But as for labels, the ONLY time I really feel like using TG when not talking to friends and people that have known me a long time, is with the field of psychiatry, as they can't function without their stupid labels. Telling them, no I am not here for depression, not here for anxiety, not here for reasons of suicidal thoughts, not here for anger management, not here for motivation issues, I'm only here so you can show me where to sign to get me in line to get HRT treatment and on the list for SRT surgery.
I tell people in conversation I am a woman if they look like that can't figure out why I seem otherwise.
I have come to realize it is easier to just tell them we can't all be runway models and Disney princesses.
And then I point out all the 'fine examples' of local fauna that are just so utterly beautiful and heaping a lot of sarcasm on the comment :)
The day I get the pleasure of getting rid of this damned thing, is the day I stop using TG in conversation if it is in reference to me.
It is not to say I will turn my back on the TG community, because it is likely other will never come a day when we don't need each other.
It's 2013, and you can still find heaps of anti black behaviour in the US south, and no, I am NOT apologizing, that isn't a bash, that is telling it like it is. I have first had evidence to back it up.
And it illustrates my point. I will never pass so well, that it will be possible for me to just think I am safe. Nope, I can't see that ever really occuring.
For 90+% of the people with whom I discuss my transition, all they need to know is that I'm transgender, and that I expect to be treated as a woman.
For the rest, I refer to myself as non-binary gendered, which says very little. However, if I get to the point of telling them that, it's because they're interested in exactly what my relationship is with my gender. I'd tell them I'm convinced that whatever is physically going on in my brain is the same thing that MtF transsexuals have, but I experience my gender very differently from the way most most trans women do. I want a woman's body and a woman's life, but there are stubborn parts of my personality and outlook that are male and that refuse to transition with the rest of me.
Quotethere are stubborn parts of my personality and outlook that .... refuse to transition with the rest of me.
Somehow I think this is true for most of us in varying degrees.
No offense to any of you, because I think this conversation is fine and dandy, but I'm serious in that I really want a label (because I personally enjoy being able to fit myself into something; it validates my feelings) that is applicable. I was curious to hear what you have all heard for names other than the common ones you find on the internet. I love the term "transfeminine boy" but that's often used to describe a biological male, and that's not me. I'm trans, I'm feminine, I'm a boy, but I wasn't born male. Therefore, I am looking for a better fit. I think what suzifrommd mentioned was a good point; it doesn't matter your label unless there is a reason to give it. In my case, as suzi said, I tell people about my gender nonconformity when they want to know about my relationship with my gender. I also tell myself my label when I want to know about my relationship with my gender (if that makes sense). Not fitting in any of the boxes I've heard frustrates me. So. What interesting/unusual labels have people heard/seen/come up with?
Non disney princess appeals to me :)
I also like to tell people I'm 'under construction'.
Some like the notion 'work in progress'.
What is says, is your appearance is not acceptable to you, it is currently being revised, rebuilt, improved, made more relevant.
My brother went from a decent home (decent by any sort of yardstick) to a better home all because he wasn't satisfied with the previous one even though it meant going from comfortable and likely closer to being paid for, to a place that is by no means paid for.
I think that sums up a lot of us. We know the journey is going to be expensive and so what, the current accommodations are not considered good enough.
It's annoying that part of the process involves something we have sex with, and so much of society is mired in so much really dumb thinking when it comes to sex. Oh well eh.
I did like K8's description of being a woman with a few anatomical anomalies.
I think that fits the way I see myself best. Now to lose this colostomy bag, it sure would help.
I love that analogy, of trying to move into a new house. Problem is, some of that new house doesn't give us what we want. Like you said, a huge problem for TGs is sex, because part of their bodies are still in that old house.
Quote from: Lesley_Roberta on November 03, 2013, 07:22:05 PM
Non disney princess appeals to me :)
I also like to tell people I'm 'under construction'.
Some like the notion 'work in progress'.
What is says, is your appearance is not acceptable to you, it is currently being revised, rebuilt, improved, made more relevant.
My brother went from a decent home (decent by any sort of yardstick) to a better home all because he wasn't satisfied with the previous one even though it meant going from comfortable and likely closer to being paid for, to a place that is by no means paid for.
I think that sums up a lot of us. We know the journey is going to be expensive and so what, the current accommodations are not considered good enough.
It's annoying that part of the process involves something we have sex with, and so much of society is mired in so much really dumb thinking when it comes to sex. Oh well eh.
Quote from: Simply_Sir on November 03, 2013, 04:47:41 PM
No offense to any of you, because I think this conversation is fine and dandy, but I'm serious in that I really want a label (because I personally enjoy being able to fit myself into something; it validates my feelings) that is applicable. I was curious to hear what you have all heard for names other than the common ones you find on the internet. I love the term "transfeminine boy" but that's often used to describe a biological male, and that's not me. I'm trans, I'm feminine, I'm a boy, but I wasn't born male. Therefore, I am looking for a better fit. I think what suzifrommd mentioned was a good point; it doesn't matter your label unless there is a reason to give it. In my case, as suzi said, I tell people about my gender nonconformity when they want to know about my relationship with my gender. I also tell myself my label when I want to know about my relationship with my gender (if that makes sense). Not fitting in any of the boxes I've heard frustrates me. So. What interesting/unusual labels have people heard/seen/come up with?
people in general often think of biologically born men when mention anything with "trans".
I mean terms as femme and femboy also used for FAAB.
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there where a site with alot of names but I dont remember the name of it.
it was more like a quiz for yourself and in the end it said you are: and posted all the options you had clicked below.
if someone know the site please link it.
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hmm, im not sure we got enough labels for gender identy, I think many labels kinda asume we are 1 thing clearly but I dont really feel it that way. maybe its more easy to find a label if you seperate them.
so insteed of seaching for trans-femme, you can seach for femme, and trans? if that makes sense?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM0Qfm-L85s
the post made me think of jessica,
I think the bottomline is whatever you ideintify with it has to fell right, then its right, if it feels wrong then its not right.
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