I saw this on cnn.com and just had to share. :) Apparently, there is a possibility that a MTF can model for them.
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/showbiz/2013/11/13/sbt-transgender-victorias-secret-show.cnn.html (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/showbiz/2013/11/13/sbt-transgender-victorias-secret-show.cnn.html)
I just signed the petition, Carmen Carrera would totally rock it, but it's a little late in the game they are saying for her to make it properly into the show tomorrow night.
Quote from: Mindy More on November 16, 2013, 11:34:09 AM
I just signed the petition, Carmen Carrera would totally rock it, but it's a little late in the game they are saying for her to make it properly into the show tomorrow night.
You are aware of the fact that its not a live show and that it's pre recorded.
Quote from: Mindy More on November 16, 2013, 11:34:09 AM
I just signed the petition, Carmen Carrera would totally rock it, but it's a little late in the game they are saying for her to make it properly into the show tomorrow night.
Oh, where can I go to sign it too??? I also concur with you, she could totally rock it! Now I want to be a VS model too. :) I know that it is prolly too late for this years show, but just the mere fact that VS would do it is insurmountable. If they do it, Im only buying VS bras and panties.
Quote from: kariann330 on November 16, 2013, 12:15:56 PM
You are aware of the fact that its not a live show and that it's pre recorded.
I didn't know that, but still, imagine the message that VS would put out there if they had Carmen Carrera as one of the models.
Quote from: Ксениа on November 16, 2013, 12:18:24 PM
I didn't know that, but still, imagine the message that VS would put out there if they had Carmen Carrera as one of the models.
I'd love for them to send the message, but I'm doubtful they will do that anytime soon. Most people seem against it and it may be a negative business decision. I've seen some women complain about transgender females modeling their clothes. Then again, it's mostly guys that are afraid they may enjoy seeing a trans girl in sexy clothes.
In any case, I'd love for it to happen some day.
Since were on the topic of models, i do know if your postop and meet the size requirements (14-20) i know Torrid and Lane Bryant will use a transgender model for catalog shoots. I have an ex who is a model for them and might have a trial photo shoot once im healed.
Quote from: kariann330 on November 16, 2013, 02:32:05 PM
Since were on the topic of models, i do know if your postop and meet the size requirements (14-20) i know Torrid and Lane Bryant will use a transgender model for catalog shoots. I have an ex who is a model for them and might have a trial photo shoot once im healed.
I think VS is more visible and more of a media attraction. It's good that there are brands that accept us, but having a transgender VS model would help the trans community go a long way in terms of social acceptance.
Quote from: kariann330 on November 16, 2013, 02:32:05 PM
Since were on the topic of models, i do know if your postop and meet the size requirements (14-20) i know Torrid and Lane Bryant will use a transgender model for catalog shoots. I have an ex who is a model for them and might have a trial photo shoot once im healed.
I wish I was post op, im just in the beginning of my transition. On HRT for 4.5 months now, happy with the results, and hoping for much more. I believe I can model as a woman, just like people told me I could as a man. My friends keep on saying I can model as a woman and I love it, because if I can model as a woman, I know that I have made it and things are going well appearance wise.
Also, what is a 14-20???
Quote from: learningtolive on November 16, 2013, 02:44:00 PM
I think VS is more visible and more of a media attraction. It's good that there are brands that accept us, but having a transgender VS model would help the trans community go a long way in terms of social acceptance.
I utterly agree. It would be a big step for us.
I am interested in signing the petition too.
Model? If I were still in my 20s! LOL
Quote from: Ксениа on November 16, 2013, 02:50:07 PM
Also, what is a 14-20???
Womens sizes in the US. With LB and Torrid being plus sized clothing companies they use plus sized women for there adds. Right now im a size 12 but am hoping that ill be the size 14 minimum needed to be a model for them. Another plus to LB and Torrid over other companies is they let the girls keep everything from the photo shoots. My ex has 2 walk in closets full now and a dresser full of panties and bras from her shoots. Because of her job she can literally go 2 months without ever doing laundry and still have plenty of clean clothes and undies....and most of it aint cheap stuff....like Silver Jeans.
Quote from: kariann330 on November 16, 2013, 03:29:23 PM
Womens sizes in the US. With LB and Torrid being plus sized clothing companies they use plus sized women for there adds. Right now im a size 12 but am hoping that ill be the size 14 minimum needed to be a model for them. Another plus to LB and Torrid over other companies is they let the girls keep everything from the photo shoots. My ex has 2 walk in closets full now and a dresser full of panties and bras from her shoots. Because of her job she can literally go 2 months without ever doing laundry and still have plenty of clean clothes and undies....and most of it aint cheap stuff....like Silver Jeans.
Lucky y0u!! I hope I get to do that. I would love to model as the real me. For pants, Im a size 13, I can squeeze into an 11 but I wear 13 or my ass looks squooshed right now in 11's. My curves are coming in and I am sure there is more of that to come. I will post three pics here. First is last week and no make up, second on is a week ago, and the third is from 2 months ago....but I know I need the face and it gets better and better. Also, not sure if anyone has seen my past pics but even before starting my transition, women always told me I had he legs they wanted.
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I wonder if there are any other trans people on this forum that model during or after transition. I welcome anyone to post pics of their modeling shots if they have or want to model. :)
Ugh, I made the mistake of reading some of the comments under that article. ::)
Quote from: Ashey on November 16, 2013, 03:55:35 PM
Ugh, I made the mistake of reading some of the comments under that article. ::)
I dont see any comments on the video on CNN
Quote from: Ксениа on November 16, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Lucky y0u!! I hope I get to do that. I would love to model as the real me. For pants, Im a size 13, I can squeeze into an 11 but I wear 13 or my ass looks squooshed right now in 11's. My curves are coming in and I am sure there is more of that to come. I will post three pics here. First is last week and no make up, second on is a week ago, and the third is from 2 months ago....but I know I need the face and it gets better and better. Also, not sure if anyone has seen my past pics but even before starting my transition, women always told me I had he legs they wanted.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131112_110815_508.jpg&hash=075bf43715f607ea162d4d0e4bea80214be73aea) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131001_210138_338.jpg&hash=1f62ed3b7b9113755231faa36ede88df0a3ccb8f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2F66152_163478637186551_215134761_n.jpg&hash=21af0f4be0739edacb6dc26f3a4659dffb82accc)
I wonder if there are any other trans people on this forum that model during or after transition. I welcome anyone to post pics of their modeling shots if they have or want to model. :)
girl your cute!
Quote from: Ксениа on November 16, 2013, 04:00:06 PM
I dont see any comments on the video on CNN
Sorry, they have both an article and a video. Was talking about this... http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/14/showbiz/transgender-model-victorias-secret/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
Quote from: Ксениа on November 16, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Lucky y0u!! I hope I get to do that. I would love to model as the real me. For pants, Im a size 13, I can squeeze into an 11 but I wear 13 or my ass looks squooshed right now in 11's. My curves are coming in and I am sure there is more of that to come. I will post three pics here. First is last week and no make up, second on is a week ago, and the third is from 2 months ago....but I know I need the face and it gets better and better. Also, not sure if anyone has seen my past pics but even before starting my transition, women always told me I had he legs they wanted.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131112_110815_508.jpg&hash=075bf43715f607ea162d4d0e4bea80214be73aea) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131001_210138_338.jpg&hash=1f62ed3b7b9113755231faa36ede88df0a3ccb8f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2F66152_163478637186551_215134761_n.jpg&hash=21af0f4be0739edacb6dc26f3a4659dffb82accc)
I wonder if there are any other trans people on this forum that model during or after transition. I welcome anyone to post pics of their modeling shots if they have or want to model. :)
First off you look amazing.
Second if you can't model ever, then God help us all.
Quote from: kariann330 on November 16, 2013, 06:52:17 PM
First off you look amazing.
Second if you can't model ever, then God help us all.
Thanks giirl!!!! I really want to model but I have a few scars that may pose some trouble. But photoshop can fix those. ;)
I know what you mean, i have a wicked scar on my knee from surgery, a scar on my shin and on my back from getting shot, and i had my appendix taken out.
Quote from: kariann330 on November 16, 2013, 07:35:57 PM
I know what you mean, i have a wicked scar on my knee from surgery, a scar on my shin and on my back from getting shot, and i had my appendix taken out.
I have a huge scar on my knee from when I was a kid. I hate it. It is getting smaller as the years pass, but still there. :(
Try getting shot....those scars don't fade well and just when you think they did, they stay white no matter how much sun you get.
Our local news station posted an article about Carmen and VS, the comments just made me sick...I swear! What is wrong with people antway, grrrr
Quote from: Ксениа on November 16, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Lucky y0u!! I hope I get to do that. I would love to model as the real me. For pants, Im a size 13, I can squeeze into an 11 but I wear 13 or my ass looks squooshed right now in 11's. My curves are coming in and I am sure there is more of that to come. I will post three pics here. First is last week and no make up, second on is a week ago, and the third is from 2 months ago....but I know I need the face and it gets better and better. Also, not sure if anyone has seen my past pics but even before starting my transition, women always told me I had he legs they wanted.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131112_110815_508.jpg&hash=075bf43715f607ea162d4d0e4bea80214be73aea) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131001_210138_338.jpg&hash=1f62ed3b7b9113755231faa36ede88df0a3ccb8f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2F66152_163478637186551_215134761_n.jpg&hash=21af0f4be0739edacb6dc26f3a4659dffb82accc)
I wonder if there are any other trans people on this forum that model during or after transition. I welcome anyone to post pics of their modeling shots if they have or want to model. :)
You are adorably cute!
I can see you doing some modeling for sure :)
Funny thing is there may have already been a TS VS model.
I love how people get their undies in a knot when it comes to us. But they fail to realize there are plenty of trans woman who have transitioned and are high fashion models. Some of them are so beautiful and no one's the wiser. But as soon as one of us expresses the desire to be a VS model the bigots come out in droves.
Quote from: Ксениа on November 16, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Lucky y0u!! I hope I get to do that. I would love to model as the real me. For pants, Im a size 13, I can squeeze into an 11 but I wear 13 or my ass looks squooshed right now in 11's. My curves are coming in and I am sure there is more of that to come. I will post three pics here. First is last week and no make up, second on is a week ago, and the third is from 2 months ago....but I know I need the face and it gets better and better. Also, not sure if anyone has seen my past pics but even before starting my transition, women always told me I had he legs they wanted.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131112_110815_508.jpg&hash=075bf43715f607ea162d4d0e4bea80214be73aea) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131001_210138_338.jpg&hash=1f62ed3b7b9113755231faa36ede88df0a3ccb8f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2F66152_163478637186551_215134761_n.jpg&hash=21af0f4be0739edacb6dc26f3a4659dffb82accc)
I wonder if there are any other trans people on this forum that model during or after transition. I welcome anyone to post pics of their modeling shots if they have or want to model. :)
I definitely see you as a model. Your so beautiful!
Quote from: Michelle G on November 17, 2013, 01:22:14 AM
Our local news station posted an article about Carmen and VS, the comments just made me sick...I swear! What is wrong with people anyway, grrrr
I know, on CNN I made a comment, and the comments made me sick too. I posted on there knowing some would tear me apart.
Quote from: Janae on November 17, 2013, 05:27:58 AM
Funny thing is there may have already been a TS VS model.
I love how people get their undies in a knot when it comes to us. But they fail to realize there are plenty of trans woman who have transitioned and are high fashion models. Some of them are so beautiful and no one's the wiser. But as soon as one of us expresses the desire to be a VS model the bigots come out in droves.
You are correct, there have to be some TS models out there. People can't hate if they dont suspect, and people fear what they don't know or cant understand. I wonder if they are just afraid that someone who was born in a mans body is able to be happy as a woman. Does that scare them, or is it that the men are afraid that they might find a TS model attractive? Or a woman might get offended because we might actually be more feminine on occasion? Makes me wonder why some people hate it so much? How does it really affect them?
Quote from: Shnoogy on November 17, 2013, 05:42:36 AM
I definitely see you as a model. Your so beautiful!
THank you honey, it means a lot to hear that!!!!! ANd I still love that shirt of yours!!!!
Quote from: Ксениа on November 17, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
THank you honey, it means a lot to hear that!!!!! ANd I still love that shirt of yours!!!!
Your very welcome. With this shirt comes great responsibility and awesome compliments! thank you lol
Quote from: Ксениа on November 17, 2013, 09:10:32 AM
You are correct, there have to be some TS models out there. People can't hate if they dont suspect, and people fear what they don't know or cant understand. I wonder if they are just afraid that someone who was born in a mans body is able to be happy as a woman. Does that scare them, or is it that the men are afraid that they might find a TS model attractive? Or a woman might get offended because we might actually be more feminine on occasion? Makes me wonder why some people hate it so much? How does it really affect them?
It shouldn't matter at the end of the day but it always will. Most people can't get past the fact that someone so beautiful used to be male. No matter how perfect she looks her past will always be the focus if she's out. I think it's mostly an American thing because in Paris & Milan the fashion world has embraced trans models, Lea T is the most recent but there have been others that had successful careers.
Like Tracy Africa...
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She was a high fashion/print model in the 70's & 80's. She's work for some of the biggest brands in the industry. But her career was cut short when a very hateful mean gay man outed her to some hair stylists, make up artists, and industry clients. She ended up having to leave for Europe to work because she was unable to get jobs after it was discovered. To me if a trans women of color could make it in the 70's & 80's when the world was
very different a latina trans women should be able to do it in 2013.
Quote from: Janae on November 20, 2013, 03:44:04 AM
It shouldn't matter at the end of the day but it always will. Most people can't get past the fact that someone so beautiful used to be male. No matter how perfect she looks her past will always be the focus if she's out. I think it's mostly an American thing because in Paris & Milan the fashion world has embraced trans models, Lea T is the most recent but there have been others that had successful careers.
Like Tracy Africa...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F29.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lw2f7a6Jhb1qlqifqo1_500.jpg&hash=542a71996e56f47e243404b77f5be64ef649df39) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-C3HU1Pkqhjw%2FTt5FIJOiXlI%2FAAAAAAAAU6c%2FPA_7RQEa5jI%2Fs1600%2Fts-Tracy%2BAfrica%2Bad.jpg&hash=e10b0f8662b83781cdfcb7114797778f7e3ea860)
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She was a high fashion/print model in the 70's & 80's. She's work for some of the biggest brands in the industry. But her career was cut short when a very hateful mean gay man outed her to some hair stylists, make up artists, and industry clients. She ended up having to leave for Europe to work because she was unable to get jobs after it was discovered. To me if a trans women of color could make it in the 70's & 80's when the world was very different a latina trans women should be able to do it in 2013.
I dont understand how people get so into it, and cant get past the fact that someone who was male, now looks so amazing as a woman. I saw online that bigotry, and the hatred of people commenting on the CNN page for Carmen Carrera. I even put myself out there so that I could see what people would say, and I got torn apart. The subject was about whether she should be able to walk for VS, but the argument ended up not being about that. IT was about whether she was a woman or not, and people saying that trans women are not women and never will be. I swear to god, some of these people had no idea what the hell they are talking about but just like us, we are entitled to our own opinion, just as we are to them. I believe hat the common folk really don't care and it is the few that speak out so strong that ruin everything. Everyone that is close to me before I came out is still close to me, and now I actually have a few more people that are closer to me, and the friends that I do have, we are closer than ever. SO I like to believe that most people will accept us as women, and not as people that are screwed up in the head, who are just pretending to be women.
I would love to model after transition, and I really hope that the fact that I was born into this world in the wrong body, doesn't ruin my dreams before I have a chance to even try.