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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Sabrina on November 20, 2013, 08:26:57 PM

Title: Sterility Question
Post by: Sabrina on November 20, 2013, 08:26:57 PM
From what I have read, taking hormones will eventually make you sterile. This seems to be universal. My question is regardless of how long you've been on hormones, provided you still have your male parts, is there a chance that they can recover given enough time to have kids someday? Or is there a point, during hormone treatment, in which sterility is absolute. I realize that the longer you've been on hormones, the longer it would take to recover. I know it is advised to bank sperm before starting but for where I live, it is very difficult to do.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Jill F on November 20, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
I'm afraid we have yet another YMMV situation.   I've heard of it happening in as few as 6 months, and even having it reverse after 10 years. 
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Gabrielle on November 20, 2013, 08:52:42 PM
There was a great quotation from Jurassic Park.

"Nature finds a way."  As long as you retain your testes, there is a chance you might shoot bullets.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: sam79 on November 20, 2013, 09:13:05 PM
My endo says that in most cases, fertility will return to some extent regardless of time on AAs.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Sabrina on November 20, 2013, 09:54:25 PM
This is what I thought. I'm about to start hormones in the near future, the "letter" is in the mail, and this is a topic the doctor brought up. I'm not too worried about it. Also, it seems that there is no scientific evidence saying that recovery is impossible.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Jill F on November 20, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
Quote from: Sabrina on November 20, 2013, 09:54:25 PM
This is what I thought. I'm about to start hormones in the near future, the "letter" is in the mail, and this is a topic the doctor brought up. I'm not too worried about it. Also, it seems that there is no scientific evidence saying that recovery is impossible.

Well, until you get rid of 'em...  ;) 
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: sam79 on November 20, 2013, 09:59:25 PM
Quote from: Jill F on November 20, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
Well, until you get rid of 'em...  ;)

Unless you've banked :)
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Lauren5 on November 20, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
Quote from: SammyRose on November 20, 2013, 09:59:25 PMUnless you've banked :)
This is what is recommended if you want to have biological children in the future.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on November 20, 2013, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: SammyRose on November 20, 2013, 09:13:05 PM
My endo says that in most cases, fertility will return to some extent regardless of time on AAs.

Isn't it the estrogen that completely sterilizes you? Some people on here have said that's why endos will keep you on only anti-androgynes the first few months.

Quote from: Sabrina on November 20, 2013, 08:26:57 PM
I know it is advised to bank sperm before starting but for where I live, it is very difficult to do.

If you're in the US it's possible to do it online and through the mail my dear. That's what someone here showed me anyway.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Joanna Dark on November 20, 2013, 11:49:22 PM
in order to recover, you'd have to stop taking hormones. If you're lready thinking of stopping...uh...well, you should go into this with the mindset that it is irreversible because it might be. I can tell you I look very different in just eight months and I haven't been on a high dose. You will become a woman. I did. Well I always was. But be sure. Seriously.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Cindy on November 21, 2013, 03:36:28 AM
I was sterile within weeks. There is no way at all that I could come off hormones. I just couldn't. The changes in my mind, my body myself are so profound that I could not contemplate it.

Sperm banking is the only way IMO.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Gabrielle on November 21, 2013, 03:43:41 AM
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on November 20, 2013, 11:09:15 PM
Isn't it the estrogen that completely sterilizes you? Some people on here have said that's why endos will keep you on only anti-androgynes the first few months.

If you're in the US it's possible to do it online and through the mail my dear. That's what someone here showed me anyway.

Does FedEx have a special shipping container for fresh spooge?  :o

Anti-androgynes?!?!
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on November 21, 2013, 03:51:13 AM
Quote from: Gabrielle on November 21, 2013, 03:43:41 AM
Anti-androgynes?!?!

>.<' Whoops lol

Quote from: Gabrielle on November 21, 2013, 03:43:41 AM
Does FedEx have a special shipping container for fresh spooge?  :o

Yuppers.

http://www.cryochoice.com/collection.html

What bothers me however is that they didn't bother securing their site for something like this. (https)
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Cindy on November 21, 2013, 04:03:18 AM
My one and only experience with FedEx was sending a package (not sperm just some scientific reagents) from Adelaide, South Australia to a lab in the USA.  FedEx lost the package before they got to Adelaide airport, 6 kms away from collection. Now that takes skill!!
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: ganjina on November 21, 2013, 06:52:49 AM
I decided to work an extra few months so I could afford myself to do some banking in a proper bank on another country, since here it is not so reliable. I think maybe stacking the odds in favor of having your own child in the future might be worth more money than whatever the trip to the bank and the deposit cost.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Sabrina on November 23, 2013, 12:43:26 AM
I don't know what to say. You all have given me such great advice. This place is very helpful.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: TerriT on November 23, 2013, 02:15:43 AM
Well, I'm hoping to be as sterile as possible. Seems to be working since my jizz is a fraction of its former self. Haven't been tested though. I would like to be able to orgasm inside my babe again.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Ashey on November 23, 2013, 02:42:50 AM
My therapist asked me how I felt about the possibility of becoming sterile. I laughed. "Uhh, I'm 26 and for me that's still way down the road if at all. Next topic!" I'm just not concerned with it, for a few reasons. First, there's always adoption. Second, if not adoption there's fostering, which is what I would likely do if I'm legally allowed to. Third, science! I have read about things like converting stem cells into sperm. It's either possible now or nearly possible. And also I've read some stuff about using your own stem cells to grow a functioning uterus that wouldn't have the risk of rejection. A lot of stuff like that coming out of the regenerative medicine field. Kinda cool, kinda freaky. Doubt I'd do it, but then how many people could say they knocked themselves up? xD
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Jenna Marie on November 23, 2013, 08:38:59 AM
Yeah, it varies, and I'm unaware of any reliable studies. Anecdotally, I was declared irreversibly sterile (by the pathologist examining my testicles, so pretty concrete determination!) after 3 years on low-dose estrogen.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: megan2929 on November 23, 2013, 03:28:12 PM
For me, I seemed to be sterile within 6 months of starting HRT (no ejaculate at all). Then, at 12 months, I went off HRT for 3 weeks for surgery and I noticed that it seemed to come back. Maybe I'm still sterile, but it looks like it could make a baby :)
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: evecrook on November 23, 2013, 03:36:36 PM
I'm a lot  older so I don't even think about it but sperm banking seems the best solution.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: megan2929 on November 23, 2013, 08:41:15 PM
Yes definitely sperm bank if you can. Even if you're not sure about wanting children at the moment, you might want them later and there's really no going back if you become sterile. It's so easy and not too expensive to just bank some sperm and have them store it for you.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Joanna Dark on November 23, 2013, 08:45:18 PM
I never even thought about sperm banking. I like men so if I ever came to that fork in the road and was considering children with someone it would be a man and he would provide the necessary seminal fluid lol or not because men effing suck. Ugh.
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: megan2929 on November 23, 2013, 08:53:12 PM
Quote from: Joanna Dark on November 23, 2013, 08:45:18 PM
I never even thought about sperm banking. I like men so if I ever came to that fork in the road and was considering children with someone it would be a man and he would provide the necessary seminal fluid lol or not because men effing suck. Ugh.

That makes sense. Unless you decided someday to have a child on your own (using a surrogate and egg donor).
Title: Re: Sterility Question
Post by: Joanna Dark on November 23, 2013, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: megan2929 on November 23, 2013, 08:53:12 PM
That makes sense. Unless you decided someday to have a child on your own (using a surrogate and egg donor).

that's not my cup of tea. I wouldn't wnt to raise a baby on my own. And if I ever did I would go the adoption route.