I've always been curious what would happen. And how would you know? I aspirate, as told by my endo to do so and I've never had any blood come up. Recently in the past year I have developed severe anxiety about my body and things related to being sick and I am always paranoid so seeing as I did my shot about 30 mins ago, the thought of me injecting into a vein started to worry me and I just assumed something bad would happen but I'm not sure! So I came here to ask.
Oil embolism - drops of T and its oil carrier block small blood vessels. You could die from a stroke or heart attack if unlucky. Effects are similar to fat embolisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_embolism), which complicate fractures of large bones.
That said, aspirate like you're supposed to and you'll be fine. You actually have to get oil inside a vein to cause problems. And you'd know if you saw blood.
Might be worth mentioning the anxiety at your next appointment, or seeking help sooner if it gets worse or spreads to other parts of your life.
I have an anxiety disorder and I see a therapist and psychiatrist and I also take medication. All of which my endo is up to date on and he knows that I have this anxiety disorder.
Really, the people who hurt themselves are taking steroids illegally to cheat at sports. Perhaps not the most careful, clever, or properly instructed. Obviously you are careful (people with anxiety disorders usually are) and have gotten good instruction. I'm sure you'll be fine.
Also, if you inject in the lateral thigh you don't even need to aspirate. That doesn't mean to say you don't do it, you're free to do it if you like, but it demonstrates how highly unlikely it actually is.
Thanks for replying. I am usually really careful at everything I do and I do in fact blame my anxiety disorder haha :P
Quote from: musicofthenight on November 28, 2013, 08:46:02 PM
Really, the people who hurt themselves are taking steroids illegally to cheat at sports. Perhaps not the most careful, clever, or properly instructed. Obviously you are careful (people with anxiety disorders usually are) and have gotten good instruction. I'm sure you'll be fine.
This is not really true. I'm sure it happens, just as I'm sure a lot of trans guys can have a mishap and get hurt, but people who take steroids tend to be very knowledgeable about what they're doing, especially if they're trying to cheat the side effects (rage, genital shrinkage, ext). I would also wager to say most athletes who take steriods are body builders and if you're just taking them for muscle gains then you aren't cheating at anything really. I don't mean to sound like a white knight but it bothers me the perception that if you take roids you're a cheat, a lair, unhealthy, or dumb just be default.
No, I'm taking the position that if you inject into a vein it's likely because you're not being careful, haven't been properly instructed, or do not have access to the right information or equipment.
Taking steroids when they're not permitted by the rules of one's sport is cheating. And anabolic steroids have been prohibited by nearly every sport ever.
I didn't mean to take a position against steroid use for carefully considered and non-competitive self-expression. I'm okay with that even though it's generally illegal. But I didn't take care to express my position.
Anabolic steroids, including T, are a lot safer under medical supervision. So, for example, pro athletes with good sports medicine aren't going to get oil emboli. It's not like it's some kind of karmic retribution against their cheating, simply the fact that ignorance has consequences.
Well, yeah that makes sense heh. If you whack a vein you aren't watching what you're doing, for sure. Well, I know that steriods being used in sports is cheating but I meant a large majority of people who use them aren't using them for a sport. Sport competitions test for them and eliminate you right off the bat, so if you're actually serious about a competition, you aren't on them. That was my point. But I get ya now, sorry if I sounded grumpy haha, my family just gives me so much flack for taking roids that it's a trigger response @.@' I am working with 2 kinds of otc steriods at the moment and you're totally right about medical supervision. I can't afford it right now or I would go that route definitely. Right now I am relying completely on knowledge of my own body to take a wild stab at what my levels are. Being I'm a triple Virgo it works out but I would never suggest it to someone else who didn't have experience with it or such a tight knit physical regulation system (I know instantly what's up because I am very vulnerable to emotional, mental, and physical changes with my body).
Quote from: musicofthenight on November 28, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
And you'd know if you saw blood.
It's true, you would. I get very worried about this sometimes too, and I used to be really paranoid, like "Was that little pinprick of color
blood, or was I just seeing the edge of the cabinet through the syringe?" But I did get blood once when I aspirated, and it was A LOT. Like SPLOOSH. I was like WHOA, OKAY THEN.
Sorry if I'm intruding on your thread boys, I just thought I might say something.
I'm a nurse and it's the same for us when we give intramuscular injections (IM) that we always check to make sure we aren't in a vein (or artery) by pulling back on the plunger a smidge to check for blood.
If there is blood then don't inject.
It's unlikely that you will hit a vein but if you are just pull out and go again. Or rather listen to your doctor :)
The odds are like randomly throwing a dart at a board blindfolded and hitting the line between bullseye and 25 points. If you do, you're lucky so go buy a lottery ticket :)