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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Evolving Beauty on December 14, 2013, 12:28:34 PM

Title: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Evolving Beauty on December 14, 2013, 12:28:34 PM
Mingling with my face I've altered major things. I've shifted from an UNPASSABLE beautiful 'trans' to a somehow PASSABLE ordinary-looking 'girl'. I'm in a confused state. I dunno whether to be happy or what anymore.

Before I'd hear guys saying 'Hey she's beautiful but it's a man', now I dont receive neither compliments/insults anymore. I'm like off from everyone's radar. I'm glad no one bullies me anymore but I don't receive compliments neither anymore. I just look like a plain ordinary girl.

I can revert back but I am not sure.

If you had to choose to be between an UNPASSABLE bombshell trans or to be a passable ordinary/plain or ugly girl, which would you choose honestly?
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Heather on December 14, 2013, 12:37:26 PM
I want to be a plain ordinary woman being seen as a beautiful but oh she's a man is just being seen as man. I'm a woman so I just want to be seen as only a woman. ;)
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Sophia Hawke on December 14, 2013, 12:42:06 PM
Yeah i wanna be the girl next door tbh.  The kind that looks great, but isnt a supermodel.  I certainly dont want to be pegged as trans all the time.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Ms Grace on December 14, 2013, 12:44:15 PM
Yep, plain Jane for me thanks.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: bethany on December 14, 2013, 12:46:45 PM
I just want to be seen as a woman, no more no less. 
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Nicolette on December 14, 2013, 12:48:05 PM
Seriously, you even have to ask this question?  ???
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: evecrook on December 14, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: Heather on December 14, 2013, 12:37:26 PM
I want to be a plain ordinary woman being seen as a beautiful but oh she's a man is just being seen as man. I'm a woman so I just want to be seen as only a woman. ;)             Yea, just the girl  who graduated from that all woman's college before starting her own business and raising a family.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on December 14, 2013, 12:53:33 PM
I prefer to be what I am, just another woman.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Oriah on December 14, 2013, 01:03:42 PM
I have no intention of ever going stealth, so I'll say beautiful and trans
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Tristan on December 14, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
I like being a normal athletic girl that guys find attractive. Makes it easy to attract guys :)
I vote happy some normal girl 
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Seyranna on December 14, 2013, 02:25:47 PM
You can't be a bombshell if you're unpassable... It's like mutually exclusive. Just sayin'
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Evolving Beauty on December 14, 2013, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: Seyranna on December 14, 2013, 02:25:47 PM
You can't be a bombshell if you're unpassable... It's like mutually exclusive. Just sayin'

I was waiting exactly for this comment to come up. Not necesarily. There girls who's face are pretty but still something VERY subtle that gets them clocked like a mildly prominent brow ridge and such other stuffs. And Not to mention a manly voice & prominent adams apple.

Below she's pretty but look her jaws & overall
(https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/eSlSgKFZQtw/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: vlmitchell on December 14, 2013, 03:10:24 PM
Uhhhh... no one would clock her except a trans chick who knew exactly what to look for. Adam's Apple and voice are changeable with effort and money.

For the answer, I'm a normal chick who is regularly regarded as 'pretty' or 'beautiful' so, I can't say but I assume that if I was faced with the options that you put up for us there, I'd go with normal girl. I can't imagine the mindset of anyone who would want to be a 'bombshell ->-bleeped-<-' (which is a horrible word, btw.)
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Ashey on December 14, 2013, 03:13:15 PM
I'll take attractive and passable, kthx. :laugh:
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: kelly_aus on December 14, 2013, 03:32:03 PM
Ordinary woman for me.. Hey, why change what works?
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Ms Grace on December 14, 2013, 03:43:18 PM
Quote from: Evolving Beauty on December 14, 2013, 02:54:09 PM
(https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/eSlSgKFZQtw/hqdefault.jpg)
I think you might be looking too hard. Is this woman trans? If so, would never pick her as such from that pic alone. Most people won't be scrutinising that hard, believe me. You'd be surprised how many people take everyone and everything at face value and look no deeper than that. Trans people tend to be our own worst critics.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Isabelle on December 14, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
I find the basic premise of the question deeply misogynist and transphobic.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: JenAtLast on December 14, 2013, 04:36:38 PM
I'd rather be a passable, average girl-next-door who can blend in versus some bombshell who sticks oit.  I've never been the attention-seeking type.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Jerri on December 14, 2013, 04:44:21 PM
well since i am spending every waken moment and dime to just be seen as the woman who lives inside this shell, i would venture say that just being me would be wonderful, an older woman with a heart and soul.
jerri
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Lesley_Roberta on December 14, 2013, 04:49:43 PM
I'd rather be thin and several dress sizes smaller.

At my age, the last thing of worth to me, is the ability to make a man horny. So I couldn't care less if I was decidedly plain, I just wish I could shop in the same stores as the thin ones.

You learn eventually, EVERY woman loses her 'drop dead gorgeous' the closer she gets to just dropping dead.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: evecrook on December 14, 2013, 05:23:39 PM
Quote from: Lesley_Roberta on December 14, 2013, 04:49:43 PM
I'd rather be thin and several dress sizes smaller.

At my age, the last thing of worth to me, is the ability to make a man horny. So I couldn't care less if I was decidedly plain, I just wish I could shop in the same stores as the thin ones.

You learn eventually, EVERY woman loses her 'drop dead gorgeous' the closer she gets to just dropping dead.
size 6 would be nice
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: KittyKat on December 14, 2013, 05:53:13 PM
Would so rather just be a plain old girl.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Nero on December 14, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on December 14, 2013, 12:28:34 PM
Mingling with my face I've altered major things. I've shifted from an UNPASSABLE beautiful 'trans' to a somehow PASSABLE ordinary-looking 'girl'. I'm in a confused state. I dunno whether to be happy or what anymore.

Before I'd hear guys saying 'Hey she's beautiful but it's a man', now I dont receive neither compliments/insults anymore. I'm like off from everyone's radar. I'm glad no one bullies me anymore but I don't receive compliments neither anymore. I just look like a plain ordinary girl.

I can revert back but I am not sure.

If you had to choose to be between an UNPASSABLE bombshell trans or to be a passable ordinary/plain or ugly girl, which would you choose honestly?

Evolving Beauty, is it possible you look no less attractive and are just getting less attention because you no longer stand out?
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: SnowDrop on December 14, 2013, 06:04:52 PM
Beautiful and trans.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Tristan on December 14, 2013, 06:31:42 PM
Ok so I thought I would get some outside perspective on this so I asked my fiancé and three if his friends and they all say they like a hot woman (with anatomical pluming )who's funny and has a good personality. Keep in mind right now they are all drinking so I think they are telling the truth. Only one of them had to think about the trans status for over a minute.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Urban Christina on December 14, 2013, 06:35:13 PM
Ordinary-looking woman. As some others said, I ask to be seen and treated as a normal woman, that's it. I only wear makeup as little as I need to look passable. Personally, I don't want to be the most beautiful woman because too much unwanted attention can make me anxious sometimes.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Jill F on December 14, 2013, 06:58:19 PM
All women are beautiful.  Next question, please.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Ms Grace on December 14, 2013, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: Jill F on December 14, 2013, 06:58:19 PM
All women are beautiful.  Next question, please.

Like.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on December 14, 2013, 07:00:01 PM
I'm a frumpy, 4-eyed trans-dork.

Meh.......
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Jenna Marie on December 14, 2013, 07:04:12 PM
Ordinary, definitely. It's why I don't like "passing," and use "blending" instead; I'm not pretending to be a woman, I want to be a typical woman who doesn't stand out from the crowd. But I never liked being the center of attention, anyway. :)

I admit, I have occasional wistful dreams of being drop-dead gorgeous... but I know that personally, I'd hate living like that ALL the time. I'll settle for being beautiful when I get all dolled up, and being kinda sorta pretty but able to leave that behind in day to day life.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: janis on December 14, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
                         

       I would like to look like a normal looking women? Just being my self

        janis
     
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Misato on December 15, 2013, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: Isabelle on December 14, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
I find the basic premise of the question deeply misogynist and transphobic.

I feel this sentiment.

Quote from: FA on December 14, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
Evolving Beauty, is it possible you look no less attractive and are just getting less attention because you no longer stand out?

And very much like this question. :)

I just want to be me. The idea of trying to fit my body into a box to fit someone else's definition of what a woman looks like strikes me as a most peculiar thing to do. I fought hard to be me. Moreover I like me, and I don't know that I would if I were born cis. No way I'd risk that blessing with a wish or a prayer or even a daydream.

It's the idea that, "you must be born like this, and look like this to be a woman or a man" needs to be challenged. Not to mention inserting all the shades of gray in between the binary, and beyond the bounds in the case of agender. Make the spectrum a pool to accommodate the genderfluid. ;) A person's word, that's all defines their gender. As for those who will not accept our word, I think to them it is appropriate to ask ask, "Why is it so important, to them, that we all fit into that historical box?"
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Alainaluvsu on December 15, 2013, 06:30:56 AM
I wouldn't mind being prettier ;)
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Ltl89 on December 15, 2013, 09:50:00 AM
Passing is very important to me, so I would choose being ordinary.  While there is nothing wrong with being trans, it's something I struggle with.  I've always wanted to be seen and treated as one of the girls and have cried many times in my life for not being a cis-girl.  Yeah, I want to be pretty, but mostly I just want to be recognized and look like the person I am on the inside.  I'm planning on living stealth in the future, so being an unpassable beauty isn't for me at all.  Nothing wrong with the alternative either, it's just not for me.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: kasika on December 15, 2013, 02:04:20 PM
If i had started transition much younger, id definitely go for beautiful as possible.

But since i didn't, passable-without-a-second-look will do just fine.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Tristan on December 15, 2013, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on December 15, 2013, 06:30:56 AM
I wouldn't mind being prettier ;)
girl if you got any more cute we would have to hate on you and be all jealous. the ordinary look i think is right because without make up on thats how 99% of woman look anyways (have you seen some of the pics of movie stars and singers?) now beautiful we can all do with the right hair, make up, shoes and cloths. but i think most of us dont do that most of the times for the simple fact that it takes so much time to do and then up keep.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on December 15, 2013, 03:11:20 PM
Quote from: Lesley_Roberta on December 14, 2013, 04:49:43 PM
I'd rather be thin and several dress sizes smaller.

At my age, the last thing of worth to me, is the ability to make a man horny. So I couldn't care less if I was decidedly plain, I just wish I could shop in the same stores as the thin ones.

You learn eventually, EVERY woman loses her 'drop dead gorgeous' the closer she gets to just dropping dead.

I will never be gorgeous, I will always be on the heavier side no matter what I do. It is what it is. Men hold zero appeal so that isn't an issue.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: JRD on December 15, 2013, 03:49:02 PM
My name pretty much says how it is for me.  I don't care so much so long as people treat me with respect whether they see me as trans or not.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Mogu on December 15, 2013, 03:58:44 PM
Ordinary. I'm fine with being an ordinary looking woman.

I think I'd get tired of being the perpetual trans person on the street.
Title: Re: You'd prefer to be a beautiful trans or an ordinary-looking woman?
Post by: Esther79 on December 16, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
As an asian, cis-girls tend to be short and petite. My height at 1.8m rule out stealth as its impossible to blend into the crowd of 1.6-1.7m cis-girls. So i am opting for drop-dead gorgeous ->-bleeped-<- bomb-shell look in the future once i come out.  >:-)