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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Post operative life => Topic started by: Violet-The-First on December 27, 2013, 11:27:50 PM

Title: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Violet-The-First on December 27, 2013, 11:27:50 PM
Hello! I'm brand new to this cite. I had my SRS on the 19th of november of 2013 so i'm still recovery. I know that smoking is not good for my health. I obviously had to stop smoking in order to have to operation in the first place. My question is when did any smokers start smoking again after their SRS, weed included. I have been very much on edge lately especially now that they are cutting back on the pain meds. I know it's in my best interest to wait until i am completely healed to start smoking again but i'm starting to loose my patients. Has anyone started smoking too soon and had very bad results? any comments from someone with experience would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: JLT1 on December 28, 2013, 12:16:19 AM
No experience post SRS.  I do have experience quitting smoking.  I used the nicotine gum – Walmart Brand, 4 mg dose and I doubled it.  It's cheap.  It does help with the inner shakes.  I have heard but found no reference in the scientific literature to smoking slowing down healing.  I have read in the literature that estrogen in combination with progesterone will significantly increase the probability of cancer in individuals who smoke. 

Welcome to Susan's!!!  Hope this helps.

Hugs,

Jen
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Heather on December 28, 2013, 12:17:27 AM
You've made it over a month without smoking why restart? Why not continue to be smoke free and enjoy the rest of your life without the serious health issues that come with smoking. :)
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Jamie D on December 28, 2013, 12:43:47 AM
Quote from: Violet-The-First on December 27, 2013, 11:27:50 PM
Hello! I'm brand new to this cite. I had my SRS on the 19th of november of 2013 so i'm still recovery. I know that smoking is not good for my health. I obviously had to stop smoking in order to have to operation in the first place. My question is when did any smokers start smoking again after their SRS, weed included. I have been very much on edge lately especially now that they are cutting back on the pain meds. I know it's in my best interest to wait until i am completely healed to start smoking again but i'm starting to loose my patients. Has anyone started smoking too soon and had very bad results? any comments from someone with experience would be greatly appreciated.

Violet, smoking has a demonstrated effect on healing after any sort of surgery.  At the very least, nicotine narrows the blood vessels and prevents oxygen from getting fully to the wound (surgical) site.

You are in the "proliferative" and "remodeling" phases of healing.  Do yourself and your new snatch a favor - Lay off anything and everything that will affect your healing fully.  Try vapor "cigarettes" for their calming effect, and then taper down to quit.
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Catherine Sarah on December 28, 2013, 01:48:12 AM
Quote from: Jamie D on December 28, 2013, 12:43:47 AM
Violet, smoking has a demonstrated effect on healing after any sort of surgery.  At the very least, nicotine narrows the blood vessels and prevents oxygen from getting fully to the wound (surgical) site.

You are in the "proliferative" and "remodeling" phases of healing.  Do yourself and your new snatch a favor - Lay off anything and everything that will affect your healing fully.  Try vapor "cigarettes" for their calming effect, and then taper down to quit.

This ^^^^^^^

Nothing more needs to be said. Respect your body.

If you are having problems kicking the habit, talk to us. And welcome to Susan's family, we'd like you stay a while.

Huggs
Catherine
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Missy~rmdlm on December 28, 2013, 07:03:35 AM
Quote from: Heather on December 28, 2013, 12:17:27 AM
You've made it over a month without smoking why restart? Why not continue to be smoke free and enjoy the rest of your life without the serious health issues that come with smoking. :)

Smoking is awesome, as a non smoker. If it wasn't for killing you while being expensive, then dealing with stale nasty smells it would be just peachy.
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Mirian on December 28, 2013, 07:40:53 AM
Violet, my experience.... YES I know I will get some neg reputation writing down that so let me premise:
smoking is noxious, toxic, is not good, makes us die, harms healing, causes cancers and blood clots, etc. etc.
I am an ex-smoker. I stopped about 8 years ago fortunately (thanks to nicotine gums). But when I
underwent SRS smoking helped me A LOT psychologically to get over the wall and everything. It was my
only vice though, and you can't negate a cig even to one sent to death... I just suspended smoking for
those 8-9 days I was in the hospital - but believe me, you often find yourself so physically and psychically
destroied then that you usually don't feel the urge of smoking. But the first thing I did when I walked over
the exit door, well, was right to light a good cig - and perhaps it was one of the most enjoied ones I
remember. I stopped some years later though. Please of course don't follow my example, they all told me
smoking definitely is BAD for healing from any surgery. However, if my surgery went not so well (sudden
vaginal prolapse, swallowness and ugly aesthetical result) I really don't think smoking was the culprit,
rather the surgeon (in my case at least). But that was my experience, since you asked...

Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Sandy on December 28, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
Have you thought about electronic cigarettes (e-cigs)?

They give you the physical feeling of smoking but use water vapor instead of burning.  And they also deliver what your brain is craving nicotine.

In other words they are just water and nicotine.

The things that kill you are eliminated, no tar, no carbon monoxide, no formaldehyde, or any of the other thousands of chemicals that are released when you burn leaves.

Also nothing is burning.

It is just a battery that heats up the liquid and produces vapor that you inhale like a cigarette.  The physical sensation of smoking is created, what's called the throat hit.  The nicotine craving is calmed.

I have used e-cigs for the last year and a half and have not had a regular cigarette since.

Like using gum or patches, it takes care of nicotine craving.

And like using other nicotine replacement therapies, it allows your body to recover from the ravages of burning and inhaling leaves.

And it comes in multiple flavors, not just menthol and non-menthol.

Check it out.

Do a google for e-cigs and you find many sites that sell them.  If you want more information send me an IM.

-Sandy
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Violet-The-First on December 28, 2013, 11:48:35 PM
Thanks everyone for your input I appreciate that you took the time to say something. I think ill wait a few more week until I go for it. For thoes you asked why I'd start again personally I find it sexy and its alot of fun. Especially when you're long boarding, skiing, or out with the girls. I'm only 19 so I have plenty of time to quit. Also I personally don't like drinking very much so smoking the green is my preferred method of buzz. I think ill stick around the cite for awhile. muah!
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: noleen111 on December 29, 2013, 01:20:43 AM
@ Violet-The-First

I understand what you mean.. I also find smoking sexy and alot of fun. I am a light regular smoker (3 to 4 a day). I started smoking seriously at the age 19, now almost 24. I smoke menthol cigarettes, as I love that cool peppermint feeling when i inhale.

@sandy

Being looking into e-cigs, as I would like to maybe get one.. I have heard from many smokers that they are not the same.
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Sandy on December 29, 2013, 08:01:52 AM
Quote from: noleen111 on December 29, 2013, 01:20:43 AM
@sandy
Being looking into e-cigs, as I would like to maybe get one.. I have heard from many smokers that they are not the same.

I would ask how they are not the same?  For me I get the physical sensation of smoking when the vapor is inhaled.  That is called the "throat-hit".  It satisfies my nicotine craving.  And there are various concentrations of nicotine from 24mg to zero so you can also step yourself down from nicotine addiction if that is your wish.  And they come in flavors such as menthol, peppermint, and spearmint.  And you could mix your own.  The menthol flavor is quite similar to the Marlboro Menthols I used to smoke.

It doesn't have all the other chemicals that burning leaves gives you like tar and formaldehyde.

Anyway, instead of derailing this thread, IM me and can answer your questions in depth.

-Sandy
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: barbie on December 29, 2013, 08:44:55 AM
E-cigs and patches also contain a lot of nicotine, but do not contain tar which is far worse than nicotine.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: calico on January 01, 2014, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Jamie D on December 28, 2013, 12:43:47 AM
Violet, smoking has a demonstrated effect on healing after any sort of surgery.  At the very least, nicotine narrows the blood vessels and prevents oxygen from getting fully to the wound (surgical) site.

You are in the "proliferative" and "remodeling" phases of healing.  Do yourself and your new snatch a favor - Lay off anything and everything that will affect your healing fully.  Try vapor "cigarettes" for their calming effect, and then taper down to quit.

there was a girl that shortly after I got my srs she got hers well, she was a bad smoker couldn't stay away, day she got out she lit one up. well I don't know if smoking was the cause but she experienced some real bad necrosis wear bacily the blood vessel in the area pinched off and well..... it was so nasty, lost a big chunk had tons of puss filled dead tissue it was horrible. they tried to try to save what they could but.... well its not pretty , and she still smokes and has issues..   it was  terrible look up pictures of tissue necrosis on google and ask yourself. "Do I want to chance it? "
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Kaitlin4475 on January 14, 2014, 11:04:14 AM
You can keep smoking weed but stop smoking cigs. It's been proven that smoking pot won't give you cancer like cigs will! I heard it on the internet ;)
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Jill F on January 14, 2014, 11:32:37 AM
Please don't go back to smoking, and don't even think about e-cigs.  Nicotine is nicotine and you're pretty much out of the withdrawal woods already.  There's nothing good that becomes of smoking.  Just think of all the cute boots you could buy with the money saved.

Signed an ex-smoker of 25 years.
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Shantel on January 18, 2014, 12:54:31 PM
Been smoke free since 76 and wouldn't go back for a $million. Nicotine causes the capillaries in the skin to collapse, meaning that smoking will age the skin on one's face a lot quicker. Smoking will also cause the vascular system to collapse in time causing circulatory problems as you age. One elderly lady i know can no longer feel her feet and has stents in her lower legs from being a lifelong smoker. Smoking will contribute to DVT if you are on HRT and many doctors refuse to prescribe for smokers. So count the costs and make an intelligent decision.
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: victoria n on January 20, 2014, 09:36:27 AM
smoking increases you risk of blood clots on hrt. especially now you have virtually   no natural hormones. after SRS . estrogen is now more concentrated than before.
smoking causes lung cancer heart disease, can cause chronic pancreatitis especially if you drink.  unless people's goal  is to ruin their  health. and weed burns your brain out.
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Mirian on January 21, 2014, 07:51:14 AM
Quote from: Shantel on January 18, 2014, 12:54:31 PM
Nicotine causes the capillaries in the skin to collapse, meaning that smoking will age the skin on one's face a lot quicker.

I really wonder if the same applies to NRT for smoking cessation (or more than often: replacement, like the
acronym says), like Nicotine gums, patches and E-cigs... I stopped smoking many years ago but I admit I
always had to supply myself with it in other forms since. And I'm becoming more and more concerned of
side effects like accelerating aging and other micro-circulation issues... including maybe hairloss...
Any idea ??
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Shantel on January 21, 2014, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: Mirian on January 21, 2014, 07:51:14 AM
I really wonder if the same applies to NRT for smoking cessation (or more than often: replacement, like the
acronym says), like Nicotine gums, patches and E-cigs... I stopped smoking many years ago but I admit I
always had to supply myself with it in other forms since. And I'm becoming more and more concerned of
side effects like accelerating aging and other micro-circulation issues... including maybe hairloss...
Any idea ??

I think you already get the idea. You are effectively constricting blood flow to those small capillaries which nourish skin and hair follicles. You are still effectively doing the same as smoking without the tars gorping up your lungs. I worked at a wildlife control job once where we used what amounted to a compressed air rifle that fired darts with pre-measured amounts of nicotine sulfate to drop various sized animals. When the dart struck the animal went down within a minute as it collapsed the vascular system and caused them to pass out. You are in effect putting a continual shunt in the smallest veins of your own vascular system by continually using nicotine products. A little nicotine gum is designed to get you past smoking just like a little Oxycodone is designed to get you past pain, but you don't continue on it unless you want to be addicted and do more damage.
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Mirian on January 21, 2014, 10:04:25 AM
What a mess... and perhaps those drugs to fight addictions (like Bupropione) are even more harmful and
addictive in turn :( Lucky who's born with a good will !!!
Title: Re: Smoking after SRS
Post by: Shantel on January 21, 2014, 10:18:24 AM
Quote from: Mirian on January 21, 2014, 10:04:25 AM
What a mess... and perhaps those drugs to fight addictions (like Bupropione) are even more harmful and
addictive in turn :( Lucky who's born with a good will !!!

You can do it if you want to bad enough hon, it's all mind over matter, My best to you!