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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: odysseus513 on January 08, 2014, 07:56:56 PM

Title: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: odysseus513 on January 08, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
So I just moved back to south florida where my best friend and his wife live. They have a four year old I haven't seen since starting hrt. So I go over to their house for dinner tonight, wearing jeans and a polo, totally not out to them. Their son about thirty minutes into the night that uncle blank, me, is a girl. His parent's ask what he's talking about, to which he replies he's a girl. Guess we really don't see the changes ourselves.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: stephaniec on January 08, 2014, 08:05:34 PM
I haven't ,but that's what kids are good at
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Allyda on January 08, 2014, 09:13:32 PM
I haven't yet either. There's alot of small children in my neighborhood though and they've only known me as female. As for in stores, not yet at least as far as I know of.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: mrs izzy on January 08, 2014, 10:18:40 PM
To this day (been full time since 2005) children scare me. They seem to be so unsure and it freaks me out.


Izzy
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Jenna Stannis on January 08, 2014, 10:31:46 PM
I imagine that this could go either way, in a Murphy's Law kind of way. As in, if you're presenting as female the kid would call you out as male and vice versa.

I'm not even presenting as female in private these days (long story), but my 2-yr-old son keeps calling me mamma. Could be just a language thing, but he's pretty switched-on language wise and he keeps doing it despite being constantly corrected.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: LordKAT on January 09, 2014, 12:43:15 AM
Yup, even in jr high when I didn't know it was possible to transition or that there was people besides me with the same condition.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Cindy on January 09, 2014, 12:51:01 AM
I know I have posted this before but:

My friend's 4 yr old told her Mum. "Cindy is a different lady to you" Intrigued she asked why?

"Cindy drives a sports car"

Mum felt deflated and old!
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: DrBobbi on January 09, 2014, 04:45:06 AM
Had an 8 year old last month say I was a girl. With her mother's permission I explained to her, and her 13 year old sister that I was transitioning. Later than day they bought me christmas gift from them from Saphora.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Ms Grace on January 09, 2014, 04:54:20 AM
My 8 year old niece seems to be aware that something is going on - I still present as male around her but she appears to have noticed changes in my mannerisms.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on January 09, 2014, 07:29:18 AM
Pfff I dunno guys... I mean my 5 years old cousins  call me a girl all the time...

why ?

Cause I wear a pink shirt,,,cause I have long hair,,,cause I like minnie mouse as much as I like mickey...

I really cant tell what they are thinking...actually the most awesome part is when I go "yeah you know actually I am a girl "
and their like "ok wtf is going on "

when it comes to random kids on the streets...they are creepy ok , what the hell could they be thinking...
I mean is it possible that they recognise that you are a biological guy when you present compeletly female???
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Jane's Sweet Refrain on January 09, 2014, 08:29:01 AM
I should start by saying that this situation was not embarrassing for me in the least. When my now eight year old daughter was 22 months old (years before I started transitioning) she started insisting that I was a woman. My hair was short. I had a goatee. She consistently held this view for over two years! I, of course, was delighted. All my friends knew about it and shared in the "joke" with us. But she wasn't joking. Needless to say, when I came out to her when she was seven, she was more than a little pleased and loves the story of her prescience.   
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on January 09, 2014, 08:33:11 AM
Quote from: Jane's Sweet Refrain on January 09, 2014, 08:29:01 AM
I should start by saying that this situation was not embarrassing for me in the least. When my now eight year old daughter was 22 months old (years before I started transitioning) she started insisting that I was a woman. My hair was short. I had a goatee. She consistently held this view for over two years! I, of course, was delighted. All my friends knew about it and shared in the "joke" with us. But she wasn't joking. Needless to say, when I came out to her when she was seven, she was more than a little pleased and loves the story of her prescience.   

Isnt that down right wierd though?

Is there an explanation for this???
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Jane's Sweet Refrain on January 09, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 09, 2014, 08:33:11 AM
Isnt that down right wierd though?

Is there an explanation for this???

Thanks for noticing and asking. It is strange, though it felt perfectly natural to me. I was never an effeminate male, (I like them, but stereo-typical effeminate men don't act like women) but I had always been a feminine man in terms of what we might call an open quality, an affability than men often don't want to have. And you can imagine that I was a very involved parent to her. But none of these things are enough really to explain her insistence for so long. I just feel gifted in two ways: to have been born with a gender identity as female and have this girl as my daughter. 
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Kelly-087 on January 09, 2014, 01:05:50 PM
Several times.

I smile and giggle.

I dont think Im so much not presenting most of the time.. since Im extremely extremely andro looking.. but still a lot of people dont think of me as a girl.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: WFane on January 09, 2014, 02:22:25 PM
Before I even thought about transitioning or knew I was trans, I had kids under 10 running up to me asking if I was a boy or a girl. Being Thai, I have a naturally high pitched voice, but I worked HARD on having a low resonant Used Car Salesmen style voice because I got made fun of a lot... and now I'm working back on getting my high pitched voice again lol.

Anywho, back to topic, I overheard a little girl saying to her mom "She's preeeettttyyyyy," and when I turned around, she was pointing at me.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Me the Girl on January 09, 2014, 05:46:15 PM
You know, I've always heard things said that children can see more things than we see as adults.  I wonder if they can somehow see the femininity inside us?
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Allyda on January 09, 2014, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Me the Girl on January 09, 2014, 05:46:15 PM
You know, I've always heard things said that children can see more things than we see as adults.  I wonder if they can somehow see the femininity inside us?
I tend to think so. For even when I was little girls my age wanted to play with me, and as I got older I've notice kids just seem to sense my femmininity.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: JenSquid on January 21, 2014, 12:49:52 AM
A few months ago I went up to the local ice cream stand for some ice cream, and while I was waiting in line, this little girl turns to her father and asks, "Daddy, is that a boy a girl?," clearly in reference to me.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Dahlia on January 21, 2014, 02:07:12 AM
Quote from: JS on January 08, 2014, 10:31:46 PM
I imagine that this could go either way, in a Murphy's Law kind of way. As in, if you're presenting as female the kid would call you out as male and vice versa.

True! Being on HRT as a MTF and presenting as a male will emphasise your -newly gained- feminine traits.
Being on HRT as a MTF and presenting overly feminine (dressed and made up) will emphasise your old masculine traits.

It's quite an art to find a balance in presenting that will make an (early on HRT) MTF being read as female.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Adam (birkin) on January 21, 2014, 03:16:53 AM
Wasn't a child, but an older woman who has a somewhat changing mental state...she asks who I am (she forgets everyone) nd they say "birthname" and she goes "...No." Lol.
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: emilyking on January 21, 2014, 05:57:17 AM
Yes!  I was checking one day, and this little girl asked if I was a girl.  At the time my hair was pulled back.
Needless to say, it caught me a bit off guard.
My answer?  Maybe!
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Hideyoshi on January 21, 2014, 06:44:19 AM
I got called out at work

Kid: "Mommy, is that a girl or a boy?"

Mom: "Shush!"
Title: Re: anyone else been called out by a young child when clearly not presenting
Post by: Missadventure on January 21, 2014, 08:04:56 AM
Kids are good for this. I was hanging out with a friend the other day in girl mode, although I don't pass for crap, and within 20 seconds of me walking through the front door my friends 4 year old daughter ran up to hug me, stopped, looked at me, and said "Hey, It looks like you have boobies." Mind you, multiple times now both I and her parents have attempted to explain my transition to her, but she just doesn't get it. So I just said "Well, I do have boobies"

"Why?" she said.

"Because some people grow them. You will too one day."

"It must be because you wear girls clothes."

"Sure, that must be it."

Thankfully she's young enough that she'll forget boy me a I get further in transition. Her older sister, however, wont, and firmly thinks I'm a freak. She's gonna be the one, who in 5 years, will probably tell some random passerby on the street "She used to be a boy." Sigh.

At least it happens to genetic girls too. My ex, who was born a woman, and has always presented as a woman, once had a little girl come up to her in a bathroom and say "Are you really a boy???"