So I'm curious does anyone know of anywork outs or methods to get a more feminine figure? I sorely need a workout regimen and diet tips that will promote weight loss and a more feminine figure. Also does anyone know about pro ana? I wanted to know more about it because I was thinking of giving it a try.
I know all about Ana...and her sister Bella all too well. I will tell you this, it WILL destroy your life. It will effect your health, your vital organs, your bones, your teeth...the list goes on. The real kicker to it all, once you hit your goal weight and stop purging, stop popping diet pills like candy, stop using laxatives like they will never be made again...the weight comes back....sometimes doubled even. So you start the cycle again....then one day during a binge you get a shooting pain in your jaw....guess what? All that purging, all of that depriving your body of nutrition, has taken it's wear on the enamel and you broke a tooth.
Over time that cycle is gonna start shutting down your body and guess what? Your options are feeding tube or DEATH.
If you really wanna loose weight, do it the right way. Get on a sensible diet....roughly 2000 calories....more if your into sports....get to a gym and work with a trainer. Too pricey for ya? Order insanity and follow not only the exercise program, but the diet that is included and the pounds will fall off.
Btw, anyone who would actually tell you to go with the Ana/Bella diets, needs a bullet between the eyes.
Pro-ana? Why would you want to give an eating disorder (anorexia nervosa) "a try"?
well because I desperately need to lose weight I have gained 74 pounds in less than 2 years in large part to the psych meds I take. I weigh about 265-70ish I could stand to try ana the only problem is ive now become addicted to food. I eat when im bored and when im emotional which is all the time since im bipolar (amongst other things) . And insanity is too intense for me. I weigh too much im too out of shape. Also I don't wanr to get ripped which I have a tendency to do (I know because I used to be in mma)
Also I do not care if I die.
Quote from: Adrilynn on January 11, 2014, 01:43:54 AM
Also I do not care if I die.
Then all i can say is i will pray for you...because your basically talking about trading one addiction for another.....good luck and don't say you weren't warned by someone who recovered from.an eating disorder.
Thanks but you probably don't have to worry I am REALLY REALLY addicted to food and eating I cant control it often so I'll probably die of a heart attack or diabetes or something before I die of ana. Not that it matters.
There are lots of ways to kill yourself. It's a lot easier than living. I hope you find your way.
welll thanks I suppose lol
Adrilynn, look into a ketogenic diet. You can easily lose 30lbs a month on a keto diet and the best part is that it's mostly all fat that your losing. Take it from a former bodybuilder who has ingested all sorts of crap, a ketogenic diet is the safest and quickest way to lose fat, bar none. The problem is sticking to it. But if you can, the rewards are awesome.
Sorry to intrude myself, but what's a pro ana diet? I mean, I have never heard of it, but actually I don't have a good knowledge of diets...I hope it is not something I am doing right now...I am on my own kind of diet.
I am on a diet for about 4 months and until now I lost about 15kg.
The problem I am facing is that my meals are becoming each time smaller, and not by my will...I just can't eat "normal" sized portions anymore that they make me feel a mix of guilt and I feel so full that I get sick. I am getting kind of obssessed about losing weight and besides of being now on a normal weight for my size I still see myself as being fat. Not that I am thin...I am, but I still have a prominent belly and my thighs are bothering me, they are too damn huge!
I hope I am not walking into an anorexic path...
Okay, I'm gonna blow your minds.
If you lose weight imdiscrinarely, and your muscles are underdeveloped, you will look chubby at your ideal weight. Go paleo or low carb. But keep the amounts moderate. Exercise. And not just cardio.
Quote from: Robin_Particle on January 11, 2014, 08:03:54 AM
Okay, I'm gonna blow your minds.
If you lose weight imdiscrinarely, and your muscles are underdeveloped, you will look chubby at your ideal weight. Go paleo or low carb. But keep the amounts moderate. Exercise. And not just cardio.
Follow this advice and stay under 1600 calories a day. Also you must stay active. If you don't your body goes into starvation mode and you plateau no matter how many calories you cut. I pretty much eat what I want cookies, chocolate and all but stay under 1600 per day but I stay active. I'm 5-5 & 120. Physical activity is key to losing weight. Diet alone won't do it unless your very big, and then it will only work for a little while. Find an activity or sport you like and get out there and move! You do this and the pounds will fall off.
Quote from: Natalia on January 11, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
Sorry to intrude myself, but what's a pro ana diet? I mean, I have never heard of it, but actually I don't have a good knowledge of diets...I hope it is not something I am doing right now...I am on my own kind of diet.
I am on a diet for about 4 months and until now I lost about 15kg.
The problem I am facing is that my meals are becoming each time smaller, and not by my will...I just can't eat "normal" sized portions anymore that they make me feel a mix of guilt and I feel so full that I get sick. I am getting kind of obssessed about losing weight and besides of being now on a normal weight for my size I still see myself as being fat. Not that I am thin...I am, but I still have a prominent belly and my thighs are bothering me, they are too damn huge!
I hope I am not walking into an anorexic path...
Ana= anorexia, bella= bulimic
Keep in my advice is theoretical. I'm a corpulent mountain of flesh
I went from 250 to 195 by going low-carb, small portions and walking 3-5 miles every day for 5 months. 195 was actually too skinny for me, so my target weight is now 207 (yes, big-boned is an understatement). Once the habits became ingrained, I found it easy to do and the fat melted off.
I packed a bit back on due to HRT and holidays, so I'm back in the saddle again.
Every once in a while usually in winter if I creep toward 125 I'll go on a low carb, high protien 6 small meals a day diet with moderate excercise to get back down to 120 or below. I actually feel better at 115, but at my age those last 5 are darn hard to lose. ;)
I'm a former dancer and personal trainer, but I keep diet and exercise advice to myself these days, as I've found that people don't believe what I tell them.
Anyway, looking rake thin doesn't necessarily equate with looking feminine, in my opinion. There are other factors to consider, such as your body type (ecto, meso or endomorph).
Quote from: Adrilynn on January 11, 2014, 01:43:54 AM
Also I do not care if I die.
Did you mean to say 'diet'?
If not, I would suggest diets that don't risk death.
I'm not into diets anyway, I just stay a little hungry while giving my body what it's asking for.
I find it easy to stay slim this way. I think all diets that fix the foods you eat are destined to fail. If your body is needing fat or it's needing some carbs, why eat a meal in high protein. It won't be satisfied until it gets what it needs.
I think about what sounds good at the moment and that's what I have in proper proportions. This works for me, everyone has to find what works best for them.
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Another thought: I've seen people say they've ruined their diet for the day and they may as well splurge and get back on the diet tomorrow. I strongly suggest not doing this if this sounds like you! It's not true for one obviously. Plus, it will make eating less the next day even more difficult.
yes you can diet and cut down on carbs and calories to get that figure. please stay away from pro ana. i know someone close to me that it had a bad hold of for over 10 years and almost killed them.
Please, please, please for the love of your friends, your family, everyone, avoid pro ana, and honestly"diets" in general. Its all about a lifestyle change and NOT temporary self deprivation. you found reasons to live once I started to feel alive, and none of them have to do with how I look. I hope the same for you. Btw, I lost more weight in shorter amounts of time the"right" way than I ever did any other way. again, the key isn't speed, its maintaining steady sustained loss over time. And never call yourself something you would be offended for someone else to call you
Quote from: Jenna Stannis on January 11, 2014, 02:37:31 PM
I'm a former dancer and personal trainer, but I keep diet and exercise advice to myself these days, as I've found that people don't believe what I tell them.
Anyway, looking rake thin doesn't necessarily equate with looking feminine, in my opinion. There are other factors to consider, such as your body type (ecto, meso or endomorph).
I haven't posted ant photos yet, but I have an extreemly thin bone structure. I've weighed 115 to 120 all my life and it is a normal weight for me. To give you an idea, I can actually touch my thumb with my pinky finger around my wrist very easily. My forefinger will actually overlap my thumb when doing this test. I usually just eat what I want and stay active but when the weather keeps you inside all day on your butt it's easy to gain a few pounds. Seriously, anything over 130 and I look like the pillsbury doughgirl, lol. :D That's why I try and watch myself when I'm stuck inside. ;)
wel thanks everyone but I'm determined
Quote from: Starla on January 12, 2014, 10:15:40 AM
That's really sad.
Agreed. It's a shame she won't seek help.
Life is not about seeking the ideal weight or the perfect body. Life is about seeking happiness. Sometimes things can look terribly hard and no perspectives of a better future can be seen, but trust me, this is just a phase.
You can be happy regardless of your weight and even when you think you have nothing to lose, trust me, you have. And your family have. It is a terrible thing to lose someone you love and I am sure everyone can be missed regardless of how bad some family relationships may look like.
If you don't care if you die...please care about the people you love and the people that loves you. They do care, I am sure. This is the strenght that must keeps us here.
Sometimes it is easy to think this way, right? "I'm gonna kill myself and end everything, end all this suffering", but this is not a solution. You won't be happy doing this...you'll be nothing, just a dead corpse with people around your grave in despair.
So, please, for the sake of you and everyone that cares for you, don't enter this path.
As everyone here already stated, this must be the worst way of losing weight. I am losing weight really fast and just by exercising and eating less. You don't need to try to become an anorexic girl.
I don't want to tell you to get help/just feel better/give you tons of basic solutions you've already heard about. I know what it's like to feel morbidly depressed and helpless. I don't want to annoy you with a bunch information that you know about yourself way better than I do. So I'll just share some emotionally oriented things that worked for me, and hopefully some will sound good to you.
The only things that have really worked for me are distractions. If I can have fun doing something and I have a reason (or obligation) to keep doing it, that's how I tend to fix my problems.
Some examples:
-I don't know if you like video games, but maybe you could try something like DDR on light mode until you build the stamina to play harder difficulties. I found the game pretty addicting back when I first tried it.
-I find that being employed really helps me. I wasn't for a long while, and it contributed to weight gain. There is a lot of time now where I'm simply too busy to eat. It helps so much with weight control and helps get me used to not foraging for food when I'm bored.
-I'm a huge cheeseball and I some times take advantage of my grand affection for people to encourage myself (i.e. positive upswings). It usually doesn't work, but when it does, I try to do something productive while I feel playful and positive. Every little bit helps.
For weight loss, I tried all sorts of dieting, walking, exercise, and what have you. I eventually had to accept that it isn't in my personality to put up with those types of activities. The biggest help for me was understanding myself and manipulating my own character traits; fun and distractions, and small compromises in willpower just to get myself to "try new things," always telling myself that it was not a commitment just to try.
I find that you often have to embrace your own imperfections to achieve what you want. Life is too full of idealism. I think your spirit is there and you understand that you need to fight somehow, and you seem to have the wisdom to know and explore yourself. I hope you continue to expound on that virtue and find your way.
I have two suggestions:
1. Join Weight Watchers. You didn't gain that extra weight in a few months and you shouldn't try to lose it in a few months. A healthy weight loss should be in the range of 1/2 lb to 2 lb per week. Think of losing 52 lbs in the next year, and another 52 lbs the year after that. "Diets" don't work, you need to make permanent changes in the way you eat and move. If you managed to lose 100 lbs on a crash diet, you would likely gain it all back and more in the next few years. Alcohol is the caloric equivalent of sugar. Mashed potatoes turn to sugar before they even get to your stomach.
2. Move! If you can't run, walk. If you can't walk, swim. Water Aerobics can work wonders, and you weigh virtually nothing in the water. It takes a full hour of moderate exercise on an elliptical exercise machine to burn 300 calories. That's what's in one Snickers bar. When you realize that the Snickers bar will cost you a full hour of huffing and puffing on a exercise machine, you might reconsider the Snickers bar.
Adrilynn,
Hey, I know where you are coming form. I've been there. I weighed in at 287 and I smoked over a pack a day. I also did not care if I lived or I died. That was in December 2010. It sucked..... It was either change my life or die. I chose to live. Below is what I did and I share it with you to encourage. If I can be of help, just let me know, I will do what I can.
At first, I just started by cutting back the smoking. Over two months, I went from around 30 per day to around 10 per day. I also cut out ice cream. That was it. In Feb. 2011, I started to face what I was or at least started thinking about it. I quit smoking in March of 2011 and started working out to help control the withdraw symptoms. I lifted light weights and used an elliptical machine for aerobic activity. The first day on that elliptical machine, I made seven minutes. I just kept going and sometime in May 2011, I decided that it was silly to be eating that much and working out that much...it was to hard on my heart so I started a low calorie diet. In June I started counseling.
Fast forward to today, I have been on HRT for almost a year. I lost weight; gained a little, lost more and have just bounced my weight down to 191. (Bouncing the weight was intentional to get a more feminine body.) I will make my goal of 170 by March 1. I have not smoked again. I care if I live or die. There is too much to live for in this life. FFS is in March, SRS is in November.
You can do it without getting to radical. Losing weight is just fewer calories and more activity. Find what you like to do and do that. Bike, walk, run, dace, row...whatever floats your boat.
Good Luck,
Hugs,
Jen
Quote from: Allyda on January 11, 2014, 06:36:05 PM
To give you an idea, I can actually touch my thumb with my pinky finger around my wrist very easily. My forefinger will actually overlap my thumb when doing this test.
I'm not sure what that proves. I can do that, and I'm a big boned 166 pound person. I could even do that when I weighed in at 230.
For me weight loss just involved eating better food more often (ie, cutting back the fast food from 7 nights a week to one or two), and walking more. It took two years, but I dropped 64 pounds. Had I started actively exercising it probably would've come off faster.
well thanks everyone but I'm pretty numb to feeling anything so...and in one day on ana I've already lost about 2 pounds actually a little more
Quote from: missadventure on January 12, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
I'm not sure what that proves. I can do that, and I'm a big boned 166 pound person. I could even do that when I weighed in at 230.
For me weight loss just involved eating better food more often (ie, cutting back the fast food from 7 nights a week to one or two), and walking more. It took two years, but I dropped 64 pounds. Had I started actively exercising it probably would've come off faster.
It's just a standard test doctors use to determine whether your big boned, medium boned or small boned. While in most people it is a pretty good indicator of build, it is only intended as one tool among many others to give Doctors an idea of ones bone structure. It's not considered completely accurate, but only to be used as a guideline for measuring BMI. Hope this explanation helps a little.
As someone else posted a person could have abnormally long fingers. I don't but if I did I'd have myself checked for the connective tissue disease (I forget it's name). I lost my very best friend of many years to this disease. Her aorta separated from it's connective tissue and she bled out on the way to the hospital. However with this disease, the toes are usually abnormally long as well. I apologize I don't mean to scare anyone. This just brought up a bad memory. Again I'm sorry..................... :'(
Quote from: Allyda on January 13, 2014, 02:14:22 AM
However with this disease, the toes are usually abnormally long as well.
Welp, now I'm totally freaked out by my feet fingers... :(
Quote from: missadventure on January 13, 2014, 08:15:10 AM
Welp, now I'm totally freaked out by my feet fingers... :(
I'm sorry I didn't mean to freak you out. However what I'm saying is true. The good news is there's medication for this problem and it can be managed quite easily. Where alot who have this condition have complications is from not knowing about it. In addition, abnormally long fingers and toes are only a symptom of a POSSIBLE problem. having them doesn't mean you have the condition. There are other symptoms that indicate it as well. I forget the medical name for it, but I do know it's a connective tissue disorder. I had myself checked for it because of my long limbs. However, this problem also mostly affects people who are very tall.
Like I said I'm not trying to worry anybody. I just lost a very good friend to this and felt awareness is better than ignorance. ;)
I've already lost about 12 pounds since Saturday. Started the ABC diet yesterday.