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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Larisa on January 20, 2014, 11:34:36 PM

Title: Soy milk for estrogen
Post by: Larisa on January 20, 2014, 11:34:36 PM
I'm thinking of taking soy milk but didnt know if it works. I know its high in estrogen. I just didnt know if It would help with getting breasts or anything for me. I don't want hrt right now. What are some good effects of me taking soy milk or other foods high in estrogen? Can it help me?
Title: Re: Soy milk for estrogen
Post by: Oriah on January 20, 2014, 11:41:01 PM
the long answer is really long, but the short answer is that soy milk won't really feminize you noticably
Title: Re: Soy milk for estrogen
Post by: LordKAT on January 21, 2014, 12:24:34 AM
Phytoestrogen.

You will likely find this article informative.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/
Title: Re: Soy milk for estrogen
Post by: Ms Grace on January 21, 2014, 01:16:56 AM
I've been vegetarian for 26 years, pre-dating even my first go at transition. I've probably been using soy milk, mostly on breakfast, almost everyday since then. In addition I've eaten a number of other soy derivatives (tofu, tempeh) on a regular basis. Maybe, just maybe, it has some minor effect on my overall hormonal level, but it has not been anything significant that I could point to. Soy might have a more noticeable effect in cis women since they already have estrogen in their system, but in the male body it is fighting against testosterone resulting in a negligible, if any, effect. Anyway, my experience over two decades is no.
Title: Re: Soy milk for estrogen
Post by: KarynMcD on January 21, 2014, 11:12:50 AM
You need to drink a lot everyday. There was a story a few years ago about a guy who drank like 4 gallons a day and it was causing "problems."
Title: Re: Soy milk for estrogen
Post by: aleon515 on January 21, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
Ciswomen (or at least FAAB persons) can take something like Estroven for menopausal symptoms (like hot flashes). I think this works but the amt. of phytoestrogens in Estroven is like 10-15X what is in a glass of soy milk. I know trans guys who are vegans and probably have a lot of soy in their diet. Doesn't feminize them.

--Jay