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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: NYCTSGirl01 on January 22, 2014, 12:22:26 PM

Title: Passport US
Post by: NYCTSGirl01 on January 22, 2014, 12:22:26 PM
I want to apply for a US passport but my citizenship paper says male and has and old photo of me. I do however have a NY driverse license that has female and updated picture. Will this be enough to get a passport with female on it?
Title: Re: Passport US
Post by: calico on January 22, 2014, 12:27:33 PM
No unfortunately not they go off your birth certificate.  You do however have the option to allow them to take a new picture of you. I guess when you did the name change they didn't allow an order to update the birth certificate huh?
Title: Re: Passport US
Post by: mrs izzy on January 22, 2014, 01:03:46 PM
Here is a link for the State departmets new rules for the last few years on transgenders and gender markers.

You do not need a BC anymore. It can now be done with a Doctors letter.

Anyway it is all in this 7 fam 1300

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/143160.pdf

Isabell

Just a small sample of the rules

The applicant must submit
acceptable evidence of U.S. citizenship or nationality. (See 7 FAM 1100
"Acquisition and Retention of U.S. Citizenship and Nationality".) The
applicant is not required to obtain an amended birth record, amended
Consular Report of Birth (CRBA), or to request that the U.S. Citizenship
and Immigration Services (USCIS) issue a replacement Certificate of
Naturalization/Citizenship
reflecting the change of gender. State law in the
United States and the laws
of other countries vary on whether an amended
birth certificate may be issued reflecting a gender change
Title: Re: Passport US
Post by: JoanneB on January 22, 2014, 02:32:25 PM
A member of my TG group got her passport changed a couple of years ago. All she needed was some sort of documentation of undergoing some irreversible procedure. In her case HRT qualified.
Title: Re: Passport US
Post by: Lauren5 on January 22, 2014, 02:34:10 PM
Good information. I may do this if I decide to get FFS done before July, the earliest I can modify my birth certificate without actually travelling to California.
Title: Passport US
Post by: Zumbagirl on January 22, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Last I knew that the passport can be changed to female but it's for 1 year. It's a special accommodation for people travelling abroad for the purposes of sex reassignment surgery. In other words if someone is traveling abroad for Srs surgery, then get the passport just before leaving the country and they will issue a female one. If you blow it and don't have the surgery my understanding is you will get a male passport to have to travel with.

I always thought that the paperwork for surgery and passports was ridiculous. I had to give the state department a letter stating I had surgery scheduled, my 2 shrink letters and my travel itinerary in order to get an F on my passport. But honestly at that point if that wanted pictures of my junk before and after I would have sent them. I didn't care., I just wanted to get it done. That was in 2003, so things may have changed since then.
Title: Re: Passport US
Post by: Randi on January 22, 2014, 04:08:01 PM
OK, virtually every one of the previous answers is wrong in some aspect.  It takes a letter from a physician, not a therapist. No surgery is required, and you can get a regular 10 year passport.

Here is the state department's information:

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/06/142922.htm

( further clarified here:  http://transequality.org/Resources/passports_2012.pdf  )

Office of the Spokesman
Washington, DC
June 9, 2010

The U.S. Department of State is pleased to use the occasion of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Pride Month to announce its new policy guidelines regarding gender change in passports and Consular Reports of Birth Abroad.

Beginning June 10, when a passport applicant presents a certification from an attending medical physician that the applicant has undergone appropriate clinical treatment for gender transition, the passport will reflect the new gender. The guidelines include detailed information about what information the certification must include. It is also possible to obtain a limited-validity passport if the physician's statement shows the applicant is in the process of gender transition. No additional medical records are required. Sexual reassignment surgery is no longer a prerequisite for passport issuance. A Consular Report of Birth Abroad can also be amended with the new gender.

As with all passport applicants, passport issuing officers at embassies and consulates abroad and domestic passport agencies and centers will only ask appropriate questions to obtain information necessary to determine citizenship and identity.

The new policy and procedures are based on standards and recommendations of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), recognized by the American Medical Association as the authority in this field.

Title: Re: Passport US
Post by: Missy~rmdlm on January 22, 2014, 07:49:01 PM
Quote from: Randi on January 22, 2014, 04:08:01 PM
OK, virtually every one of the previous answers is wrong in some aspect.  It takes a letter from a physician, not a therapist. No surgery is required, and you can get a regular 10 year passport.

Here is the state department's information:

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/06/142922.htm

( further clarified here:  http://transequality.org/Resources/passports_2012.pdf  )

Office of the Spokesman
Washington, DC
June 9, 2010

The U.S. Department of State is pleased to use the occasion of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Pride Month to announce its new policy guidelines regarding gender change in passports and Consular Reports of Birth Abroad.

Beginning June 10, when a passport applicant presents a certification from an attending medical physician that the applicant has undergone appropriate clinical treatment for gender transition, the passport will reflect the new gender. The guidelines include detailed information about what information the certification must include. It is also possible to obtain a limited-validity passport if the physician's statement shows the applicant is in the process of gender transition. No additional medical records are required. Sexual reassignment surgery is no longer a prerequisite for passport issuance. A Consular Report of Birth Abroad can also be amended with the new gender.

As with all passport applicants, passport issuing officers at embassies and consulates abroad and domestic passport agencies and centers will only ask appropriate questions to obtain information necessary to determine citizenship and identity.

The new policy and procedures are based on standards and recommendations of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), recognized by the American Medical Association as the authority in this field.


That, and I have been there and done that.
Title: Re: Passport US
Post by: calico on January 23, 2014, 12:22:32 AM
When I got my passport I didn't have to worry about anything as my birth certificate was already corrected, all I know is when I went they wanted 2 forms of identification, and one had to be my birth certificate.