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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: kariann330 on January 22, 2014, 12:29:40 PM

Title: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: kariann330 on January 22, 2014, 12:29:40 PM
So the plant im working at has health, vision and dental thru Cigna. Im wondering if anyone has had any experience with them and knows how trans friendly there health insurance plans are.

Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: DrBobbi on January 22, 2014, 01:06:27 PM
Hi,

If your policy covers trans care, like here in California, please let me know if they follow WPATH standards and require RLE "gatekeeper" requirements before benefits kick in. I have an important reason for asking...Thanks. (Anyone else?)
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: Carrie Liz on January 22, 2014, 01:49:51 PM
I had Cigna insurance through Caesar's Entertainment, and I must say, I am an extremely satisfied customer. No BS with getting the hormone prescriptions covered, they took care of therapy, doctor's visits, and blood hormone tests, and the plan that I was on even covered SRS or Orchiectomy at an out-of-pocket rate of 15%/85%. Pretty awesome. I'm not sure if this was just because I was working for Caesar's, which got a perfect 100 on the HRC equality index, or if it's a Cigna-wide thing, but I had a great experience with them.
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: Constance on January 22, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Cigna covers that which is considered to be medically indicated by WPATH, and this included SRS.

HOWEVER...

That is for individual policies. The so-called "self-insured" policies, the kinds offered by employer such as mine, are free to exclude whatever they want from the benefit. So my particular Cigna plan doesn't cover anything transition related.

And, this is in compliance with the law that was passed in CA back in May 2013. Employers are free to shaft their employess.
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: JoanneB on January 22, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
You really need to get a copy of the actual policy to know what if anything is covered. Most policies have exclusions for any sort of transgender care, even therapy. In all my years working in the electronics manufacturing world from 20 head count companies to thousands, they all excluded TG care, which in the mix was Cigna
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: calico on January 22, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: Constance on January 22, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Cigna covers that which is considered to be medically indicated by WPATH, and this included SRS.

HOWEVER...

That is for individual policies. The so-called "self-insured" policies, the kinds offered by employer such as mine, are free to exclude whatever they want from the benefit. So my particular Cigna plan doesn't cover anything transition related.

And, this is in compliance with the law that was passed in CA back in May 2013. Employers are free to shaft their employess.

Same here, ihave cigna as well, and my employer excludes, and it is listed in my policy as elective and listed as cosmetic  :eusa_think:  total bs but ye the company can request certain exclusions which bring "their" total cost of the package
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: carrie359 on January 22, 2014, 05:02:04 PM
I own my own company.. getting ready to purchase new insurance wonder if I can get Cigna.. and that would mean I am covered..
Would be nice to have SRS covered if I go that route down the road
Carrie
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: Khalysta on January 23, 2014, 02:16:23 AM
I have not been having much luck with Cigna.  Our plan has a transgender exclusion but I am still getting some coverage for psychologists and hormones.  It's a pain in the but to get through their walls at times.  I'm kinda stealth so I've complained about them a bit to hr but she wants me to get specific with my problems which I'm not too comfy with yet as still being new. Anthem in california was much easier to deal with in my opinion.  I wish they would just come up with a consistent plan.  To me its like ironic they don't cover it but are more than happy to have my seeing shrinks weekly and a plethora of antidepressants.  Over the past year and a half I could of paid for srs almost looking at all of those bills.  So its like a savings but they just don't see it our way all the time.
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: Constance on January 23, 2014, 10:39:27 AM
Actually, I should add that my hormone prescriptions are covered.
Title: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: DrBobbi on February 05, 2014, 03:40:17 AM
California department of insurance and the manage healthcare board both mandate that insurance companies doing business in California exclude all transgender exclusions. That any type of medical care for a genetic mail or genetic female also be covered for transgender patient. There must be parity quality in all policies based on a 2012
Title: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: DrBobbi on February 05, 2014, 03:42:16 AM
Stupid spell check... Should read parity and equality across the board in all policies based on a 2012 law.
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: Constance on February 05, 2014, 11:22:35 AM
I contacted those bodies and the way the CA is is written is that "self-insured" policies are not governed. Thus, employers in CA are indeed legally free to exclude transgender services from the "self-insured" policies they offer their employees.
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: LordKAT on February 05, 2014, 05:31:51 PM
What is a not self insured policy vs one that is?
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: Constance on February 05, 2014, 05:51:23 PM
In a way that only legalese can explain, "self-insured" basically means the policies purchased in bulk by an employer. If I bought an individual policy from Cigna, it would not be "self-insured."

Basically, it's bass-ackwards.
Title: Re: Cigna health insurance.
Post by: Debussy on February 05, 2014, 08:22:20 PM
I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield PPO.
I think I just read that I need to be properly diagnosed in order to be covered. (Even then, I don't exactly know what they cover yet, have to call...)
I haven't seen a therapist, I just told my physician my condition and she took my bloodwork and I made an appointment next month with an endo she recommended. Does that mean, in order to get coverage, I'll still need to see a therapist? (Shh I'm self medicating because I can't wait until my appointment next month) or can my physician or endo diagnose me?