Hi girls
so i'll be going to yeson for vfs soon. i arrive on march 16th, have the consultation on the 17th, and the surgery is on the 18th. is anyone else going to be there for these dates? i'd also appreciate some advice and tips from the girls who've been there already :)
thanks
From a Jen to a Jenn, congratulations!
What kinda advice do you want? There's really not much to it, you are going to have a great time. Looks like the weather will be pretty chilly! Take plenty of warmth!
I would also recommend a scarf, just thinking about trying not to cough in cold air makes me want to cough ;)
Quote from: jenn90210 on January 28, 2014, 02:02:24 AM
Hi girls
so i'll be going to yeson for vfs soon. i arrive on march 16th, have the consultation on the 17th, and the surgery is on the 18th. is anyone else going to be there for these dates? i'd also appreciate some advice and tips from the girls who've been there already :)
thanks
Weather will be changeable in March at Seoul, and you have better bring coats for winter, but summer-like weather is also possible. Also, March is a season of high intensity of yellow dust from Central Asia and China, and you have better prepare for air pollution. For other travel tips, Jenny and other ladies already posted a lot of information. I would prefer May.
barbie~~
Hi Jenn,
congratulations!
Quote from: jenn90210 on January 28, 2014, 02:02:24 AM
i arrive on march 16th, have the consultation on the 17th, and the surgery is on the 18th. is anyone else going to be there for these dates?
Unfortunately, I'm going a month later and my plane's already booked! I'd love to go earlier, but I don't get time off work :-(
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you though! Be sure to keep us informed of your progress, though!
Best wishes,
Amy
Hiya peps
I'm a bit quiet with forums but have found everything you girls here have been talking about so soo useful! Thanks for sharing so much info everyone, especially Jenny and Sarah I love ure videos ;)
I'm another booking case ;D Second week in April and since confirming dates with Yeson... having super excited feelings for what I might be living with in half a years time. And I've even been walking around the area there on google street map view.... because I wish I was there right now.
As some of you too, I've been attending speech therapy, here in the UK (free with the NHS), I can obtain a reasonable high voice in the right situations, but it always 'slips' down and well, i hate my voice and just fail mostly with phone calls which I do a little in my job. Dreading seeing my speech therapist next week now, not really sure how I'm going to bring it up the subject with her. Errrrrr!
dani x
Quote from: Daniella on January 28, 2014, 04:39:24 PM
Hiya peps
I'm a bit quiet with forums but have found everything you girls here have been talking about so soo useful! Thanks for sharing so much info everyone, especially Jenny and Sarah I love ure videos ;)
I'm another booking case ;D Second week in April and since confirming dates with Yeson... having super excited feelings for what I might be living with in half a years time. And I've even been walking around the area there on google street map view.... because I wish I was there right now.
As some of you too, I've been attending speech therapy, here in the UK (free with the NHS), I can obtain a reasonable high voice in the right situations, but it always 'slips' down and well, i hate my voice and just fail mostly with phone calls which I do a little in my job. Dreading seeing my speech therapist next week now, not really sure how I'm going to bring it up the subject with her. Errrrrr!
dani x
You are quite welcome Dani!! So glad it has helped you too!
And one word of advice with your speech therapist: don't bring it up unless you like having unnecessary disagreements ;)
And congrats on booking. Holy cow, can't believe how many people are going to Yeson!! So awesome!!
Quote from: Jennygirl on January 28, 2014, 02:19:39 AM
From a Jen to a Jenn, congratulations!
What kinda advice do you want? There's really not much to it, you are going to have a great time. Looks like the weather will be pretty chilly! Take plenty of warmth!
I would also recommend a scarf, just thinking about trying not to cough in cold air makes me want to cough ;)
thanks hun :) I'll be going by myself since all my friends will be busy with work. do you think one can be able to survive alone or should i try extra hard to get somebody to come with me? what area would you recommend to stay in?
Quote from: barbie on January 28, 2014, 03:17:57 AM
Weather will be changeable in March at Seoul, and you have better bring coats for winter, but summer-like weather is also possible. Also, March is a season of high intensity of yellow dust from Central Asia and China, and you have better prepare for air pollution. For other travel tips, Jenny and other ladies already posted a lot of information. I would prefer May.
barbie~~
thanks for letting me know girl, i'll make sure i bring plenty of coats and warm clothes ;)
Quote from: AmyBerlin on January 28, 2014, 05:01:38 AM
Hi Jenn,
congratulations!
Unfortunately, I'm going a month later and my plane's already booked! I'd love to go earlier, but I don't get time off work :-(
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you though! Be sure to keep us informed of your progress, though!
Best wishes,
Amy
thanks hun! :) i'll keep you guys posted and i'll make sure i post before and afters for you all.
Hey Dani,
Quote from: Daniella on January 28, 2014, 04:39:24 PM
I'm another booking case ;D Second week in April and since confirming dates with Yeson...
You're there a week before me - you'll probably have your follow-up appointment around the time I'll have my surgery. And yes, I'm with you on the excitement!
Quote from: Daniella on January 28, 2014, 04:39:24 PM
Dreading seeing my speech therapist next week now, not really sure how I'm going to bring it up the subject with her. Errrrrr!
I think Jenny nailed it: don't bring it up. The opinion that surgery always is only a second-best option (or no option at all, even!) is just so ingrained. But the Yeson results are just so damn GOOD – and consistent, to boot! But changing age-old prejudice takes so much time...
Best wishes from chilly Berlin,
Amy
Quote from: AmyBerlin on January 29, 2014, 01:11:23 AM
I think Jenny nailed it: don't bring it up. The opinion that surgery always is only a second-best option (or no option at all, even!) is just so ingrained. But the Yeson results are just so damn GOOD – and consistent, to boot! But changing age-old prejudice takes so much time...
Amy, this statement is so true. Any time I've tried to discuss Yeson elsewhere, I get all the old Anne Lawrence research thrown up at me and that was done in the 1990s and published in 2004, yet even then she recognized that the field of VFS was beginning to change.
I find discussing this here at Susans to be refreshing because people here are both open to the discussion and providing actual examples of the end results.
Quote from: AmyBerlin on January 29, 2014, 01:11:23 AM
Hey Dani,
You're there a week before me - you'll probably have your follow-up appointment around the time I'll have my surgery. And yes, I'm with you on the excitement!
I think Jenny nailed it: don't bring it up. The opinion that surgery always is only a second-best option (or no option at all, even!) is just so ingrained. But the Yeson results are just so damn GOOD – and consistent, to boot! But changing age-old prejudice takes so much time...
Best wishes from chilly Berlin,
Amy
Hi Amy,
Possibly we might see each other, my last 9 day check up will be on a Wednesday and I'm staying in a place walking distance from the clinic too.
Just want to update you girls on my voice therapist's reaction. I just spoke to her on the phone (as she rang me needed to postpone today's ap.) I felt like I should be telling her, so I did, especially as she's been really friendly and helpful to me & I would bad lying or keeping it, plus would have to tell at at some point down the line anyway. So, she was brilliant about it! No negative vibe in the slightest and if it suits me, she says that's what matters. So I filled her in of the basics and she didn't know anything about them and what exactly they can do and she is hoping I keep with her, even after, as she has never coached anyone having/had any type of voice fem surgery.
Though I suspect your right about the general opinions, but individuals can be different ;) Still have my voice coach for afterwards :)
9 weeks to go 4 me!! too long, hehe.
dani x
Hi Dani
All the very best. Amy and I will be there at exactly the same time quite coincidentaly. I was also using Google street view to walk around the streets imagining I was there, but I guess that time will come soon enough. It's pretty exciting to be having this done especially after hearing the excellent results from Sarah and Jenny and others.
Saskia
Quote from: Saskia on February 05, 2014, 11:16:43 AM
Hi Dani
All the very best. Amy and I will be there at exactly the same time quite coincidentaly. I was also using Google street view to walk around the streets imagining I was there, but I guess that time will come soon enough. It's pretty exciting to be having this done especially after hearing the excellent results from Sarah and Jenny and others.
Saskia
i've been doing the same thing too, i cant wait to be there. i'm sick and tired of my voice giving me away!
Hi everyone,
I am waiting for a final surgery date from Jessie but right now it looks like I'll be arriving in Seoul on March 17 or 18th. I'm likely going to be alone So hoping to see if anyone else is going to be there.
Jenn, when do you arrive and depart? Where are you staying.
Lisa
I currently live near Seoul, though I've never been near Yeson. I'm going back to the states in april, but I'm not working right now. If you want some help getting food or something I'll be happy to come help you out if you need. (I'm not completely fluent in korean but I can get by). Message me~
hi guys
just wanted to let you know i had my consultation today with dr kim and i'll have the proceedure done first thing in the morning.
here are some recordings of my natural voice and my trained voice, i'll post my post op voice when i can start talking again.
natural voice:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Xrdw3m37z9
trained voice:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Pvrld68b62
let me know what you think, or if you have any questions.
Jenn
Dear Jenn,
I wish you a safe and successful surgery!
Amy
Quote from: AmyBerlin on March 18, 2014, 11:19:39 AM
Dear Jenn,
I wish you a safe and successful surgery!
Amy
thanks Amy! :)
I take it all went well then , Jenn? :) - Hope you are doing well and are able to keep the instructions and we will look forward at your healing progress reports and your recordings afterwards :) All the best!
If you had the surgery on the 18th, that means you're likely going back home today or in the next couple of days, right? Good luck with your recovery Jenn. Keep us updated on your progress.
The best for your recovery. thank you for sharing your trip to Yeson
I've just booked myself in for surgery at Yeson in June so look forward to hearing more from you about your experience and how you're getting on...good luck with your recovery Jenn!!
Quote from: anjaq on March 20, 2014, 05:12:47 AM
I take it all went well then , Jenn? :) - Hope you are doing well and are able to keep the instructions and we will look forward at your healing progress reports and your recordings afterwards :) All the best!
Quote from: SarahR on March 26, 2014, 06:02:24 PM
If you had the surgery on the 18th, that means you're likely going back home today or in the next couple of days, right? Good luck with your recovery Jenn. Keep us updated on your progress.
Quote from: margaux29 on March 26, 2014, 06:55:23 PM
The best for your recovery. thank you for sharing your trip to Yeson
thank you so much girls. everything went well, i also had to get the botox injection for my tremor.
and i got home 2 days ago. i had an amazing time in Seoul, Jessie and Dr. Kim are amazing. loved it there, i didn't wanna leave.
it totally sucks to be unable to speak, i can't wait till i can talk again.
Quote from: Gigi_J on March 27, 2014, 04:46:33 PM
I've just booked myself in for surgery at Yeson in June so look forward to hearing more from you about your experience and how you're getting on...good luck with your recovery Jenn!!
congrats!!! i hope everything goes well. i will keep you guys updated for sure ;)
so today i'm officially 2 weeks post op. i haven't had any pain or complications so far. i try to avoid talking at all costs but sometimes i end up whispering which i know i'm not supposed to do, but it's too hard to resist some times.
i tried saying a few words a couple days ago and i recorded them, but i'm so freaked out because i sound pretty much the same if not worse. i'd really appreciate if somebody could tell me if this is normal, i remember Sarah's recordings at 2 weeks post op and she sounded great.
thanks
did you compare the recordings to a pre-op recording? I guess after just 2 weeks you may still just have that botox and all that. Did Jenny and Sarah also get Botox, I think Jenny at least did, but she did a rather nice recording within the first month but she said it was done in a very soft and silent voice. Maybe try a recoding not speaking too loud for now?
Quote from: anjaq on March 31, 2014, 08:53:45 AM
did you compare the recordings to a pre-op recording? I guess after just 2 weeks you may still just have that botox and all that. Did Jenny and Sarah also get Botox, I think Jenny at least did, but she did a rather nice recording within the first month but she said it was done in a very soft and silent voice. Maybe try a recoding not speaking too loud for now?
yah i think both of them had botox as well. i didn't compare them but i can just tell.
it wasn't too loud, i think it was in a normal tone.
Did you speak in an elevated voice regularly pre-op? If so, could it be that you are speaking at a similar pitch now but that it comes out without elevating your voice? Anyways - don't try to hard, let it rest for now. Just a thought - as I understood it, Sarah was using an elevated voice for years before the surgery and basically her pitch shift was not that much but the main benefit was that she now does not have to raise her pitch by using muscles and thinking about it. Compared to the non-trained "natural"/physiological pitch, it is however an elevation. Did you compare your voice now with the untrained version pre-op?
Quote from: anjaq on April 01, 2014, 08:52:01 AM
Did you speak in an elevated voice regularly pre-op? If so, could it be that you are speaking at a similar pitch now but that it comes out without elevating your voice? Anyways - don't try to hard, let it rest for now. Just a thought - as I understood it, Sarah was using an elevated voice for years before the surgery and basically her pitch shift was not that much but the main benefit was that she now does not have to raise her pitch by using muscles and thinking about it. Compared to the non-trained "natural"/physiological pitch, it is however an elevation. Did you compare your voice now with the untrained version pre-op?
yah as long as i was in public. but yah, you are totally right, i just have to be patient and give it time.
Don't worry Jenn! This is really common. I think Abby experienced that, too. It's probably a combination of botox and swelling from healing. Jessie told me early on that some people's voices start high or low and eventually settle over the first two months.
I'm sure you have nothing to worry about! Just keep being super easy on your voice! The more you whisper/talk right now the longer it will take to heal. Best just to rest up those vocal membranes :)
Quote from: Jennygirl on April 02, 2014, 06:42:06 PM
Don't worry Jenn! This is really common. I think Abby experienced that, too. It's probably a combination of botox and swelling from healing. Jessie told me early on that some people's voices start high or low and eventually settle over the first two months.
I'm sure you have nothing to worry about! Just keep being super easy on your voice! The more you whisper/talk right now the longer it will take to heal. Best just to rest up those vocal membranes :)
thanks jenny! you guys have been a great support :)
Hi jenn!!!
Congrats on your operation! :) its been a fews weeks now.. Is your new voice comin along great. Any update? :) im doin mine in june and i cant wait!! :) thanks to all the girls here, specially jenny and sarah.
:)
I'd love to hear more too Jenn. How's your recovery and pitch coming now?