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Title: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Brandon on February 09, 2014, 07:32:11 AM
I've been looking for a packer that fits my skin tone for like 3 years do the people who make stps, packers and pack and plays, Do the people who make them not realize that black people are not just one color I'm lightskin as you can see from my avi but in lower areas my skin tone is darker, I can't find one to save my life. Its quite annoying they either have some weird color carmel or a really dark one, My mother is even lighter than me.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Nowhereboi on February 09, 2014, 09:02:31 AM
I know exactly what you mean :/

So far Sinthetics has been the best option for me, as they're midrange price wise and send out samples.  They've got a decent range in brown tones, I'd say (but still not as wide as their light shades).  More places are coming out with several mid-tone options...TSW has two or three, so do a few others that I'll look up later. But it IS hard to tell when ordering online what will work and what won't. I've honestly been happiest with my DIY recolors.  I made a tutorial that should still be floating around...I'll find the link. 

Honestly, until a PoC run line comes out, I think we're always going to be somewhat at a disadvantage. And jesus, the mainstream sex toy industry...that's just a nightmare. Even less selection with hard packers for PoC there.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: AdamMLP on February 09, 2014, 09:49:56 AM
I found hard packers for anyone with a human skin tone (i.e. not translucent bright pink) that wants a realistic size to be hard to come across.  In the end I gave up on that mission.

There really needs to be more option for people who aren't white and would have been circumsised, because it's neigh on impossible to find a uncircumsised packer that doesn't cost £100+.  There's the TSW one, but that's huge, especially as I'm 5'2".  I know height doesn't have much, if any correlation, but I don't want to look like I'm hung like a horse, especially as I'm still living as female due to work, and I have the appearence of a twelve/fourteen year old.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: CursedFireDean on February 09, 2014, 10:25:02 AM
Because of the yellow light in your pic I'm not sure if these packers are the right color or not, but the reelmagik basic packers come in some lighter browns. Still not a huge variety though.

With all of the (justified) complaining in the FtM community about lack of colored packers, I'm really bothered by the fact that so many FtM-run companies don't have more variety. Especially for uncircumcised packers, I hardly see those in white, let alone any other skin tone.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Brandon on February 09, 2014, 12:33:50 PM
Quote from: CursedFireDean on February 09, 2014, 10:25:02 AM
Because of the yellow light in your pic I'm not sure if these packers are the right color or not, but the reelmagik basic packers come in some lighter browns. Still not a huge variety though.

With all of the (justified) complaining in the FtM community about lack of colored packers, I'm really bothered by the fact that so many FtM-run companies don't have more variety. Especially for uncircumcised packers, I hardly see those in white, let alone any other skin tone.

Well I am light but when but in my downstairs area my little minnie is a darker tone comared to the rest of my body. I'm very bothered by the fact that I haven't exactly found one yet. They need to think about these things
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: aleon515 on February 09, 2014, 01:47:17 PM
I think RM just does better with skin tone generally (and of course has more colors in the palate). (These are more on the pricey side though at $90-100 with shipping.)

Take a look at Mr Pac-Man. This is a very nice silicone packer (which will out live the Mr Limpy is safer). I think it's a little heavy but the colors are much more realistic and the brown is more of a milk chocolate color and not dark-brown. (I think Mr Pac-Man is heavy.) It's in the $50 range. I'll do a review of this if someone wants.

http://www.ftmessentials.com/products/pack-man

Okay also look here: http://www.tranzwear.net/store.php?seller=TranZwear&navt1=87323&pd=7739358
This mini-gecko comes in 5 colors and is $37, can see the colors with a magnifying glass. There is a sale on these with two colors and you might be one of them ?? for  $13. So you should look around on the page.


--Jay
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: aleon515 on February 09, 2014, 03:04:45 PM
Here's an option with a cyberskin packer: http://toysfortransmen.tumblr.com/post/36054626438/how-to-recoloring-your-packer

--Jay
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Nowhereboi on February 09, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
Ah, yes! That's the tutorial I worked on. :)

Also, this JUST came across my dash on Tumblr. I met the creators this summer...they're really great folks.  Their line has three brown tones so far, and this product, an uncut $55 silicone packer, is new:

http://newyorktoycollective.com/pierre
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Seb on February 09, 2014, 05:51:10 PM
Hey brother, I agree with Nowhereboi on the Sinthetics. I am a little lighter than you, maybe a caramel as opposed to a chocolate (I'm half black, half white). So my skin color is absolutely ridiculous to match. But Sinthetics came very close to my skin color, it looks really natural (I chose Dolce, you might have to go a shade darker). My Reelmagik actually came out too light---but on the Sinthetics thread here in FTM Gear I actually did a comparison to the two products. I didn't tlak heavily about color but I will include pictures as soon as I can!
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: aleon515 on February 09, 2014, 06:05:13 PM
Keep in mine guys that this is a young guy, and not probably in the market for a prosthetic yet. All the young guys are know are too poor for that option!! I think even the RM and pac-man might be too much. There still are a few options though. The uncut packers look nice. Tranzwear has one as well, but doesn't quite look right, imo.

--Jay
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: AdamMLP on February 09, 2014, 06:13:01 PM
Those uncut packers do look very nice, although $30 international shipping seems a little steep.  I've gone as far as email them a couple of questions about it though, it looks just like what I've been looking for, so worth the money.

From what I can judge from the poor colour in the avatar, the caramel Mr Limpys don't look that far off, but obviously you'd know better than me about your skin tone.  Bare in mind that particularly with Mr Limpys I think, the colour does change slightly.  Mine doesn't look the same as what it did straight out of the package, slightly darker and less vibrant.  A black guy (darker skin than you do I don't know whether he brought the caramel shade or not) said that his darkened over time as well.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: CursedFireDean on February 09, 2014, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: Nowhereboi on February 09, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
Also, this JUST came across my dash on Tumblr. I met the creators this summer...they're really great folks.  Their line has three brown tones so far, and this product, an uncut $55 silicone packer, is new:

http://newyorktoycollective.com/pierre

Wow, other than prosthetics, definitely the best uncircumcised packers I've seen! I might consider getting that sometime in the distant future.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Bimmer Guy on February 09, 2014, 08:52:51 PM
Quote from: Nowhereboi on February 09, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
Ah, yes! That's the tutorial I worked on. :)

Also, this JUST came across my dash on Tumblr. I met the creators this summer...they're really great folks.  Their line has three brown tones so far, and this product, an uncut $55 silicone packer, is new:

http://newyorktoycollective.com/pierre

I met them too at the Philly trans-health conference.  Nice people.  I just found their very thick business card in my wallet the other day.  They just started out, they are doing the work in their apartment.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: aleon515 on February 09, 2014, 09:54:24 PM
Yeah guys keep in mind that the OP is quite a young guy so prosthetics and shipping from Russia are probably pretty unlikely.
@Nowhereboi, I wondered if this was your tutorial. Looks like a nice option for anybody who wants to use the cyberskin.

@Brett, hope you are going to be in Philly this year too. I'd love to meet my clone. LOL

--Jay
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Brandon on February 10, 2014, 06:11:04 AM
Quote from: lxndr on February 09, 2014, 06:13:01 PM
Those uncut packers do look very nice, although $30 international shipping seems a little steep.  I've gone as far as email them a couple of questions about it though, it looks just like what I've been looking for, so worth the money.

From what I can judge from the poor colour in the avatar, the caramel Mr Limpys don't look that far off, but obviously you'd know better than me about your skin tone.  Bare in mind that particularly with Mr Limpys I think, the colour does change slightly.  Mine doesn't look the same as what it did straight out of the package, slightly darker and less vibrant.  A black guy (darker skin than you do I don't know whether he brought the caramel shade or not) said that his darkened over time as well.


Actually the Mr Limpy is no where near my color trust me I know, And its not very realistic either and If I put that up to me it wouldn't look right.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Brandon on February 10, 2014, 06:14:26 AM
Quote from: aleon515 on February 09, 2014, 06:05:13 PM
Keep in mine guys that this is a young guy, and not probably in the market for a prosthetic yet. All the young guys are know are too poor for that option!! I think even the RM and pac-man might be too much. There still are a few options though. The uncut packers look nice. Tranzwear has one as well, but doesn't quite look right, imo.

--Jay

I'm not to poor for a prosthetic I'm not poor at all. But its from russia and elsewhere thats my only thing.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: timbuck2 on February 10, 2014, 07:24:38 AM
If you've got money order from Reelmagik. They have a tone color chart and they'll have your color.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: aleon515 on February 10, 2014, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 10, 2014, 06:14:26 AM
I'm not to poor for a prosthetic I'm not poor at all. But its from russia and elsewhere thats my only thing.

There are a couple other options then LikeReal (they were having a sale but not sure if it is over), there are different reviews of them. They have 5 colors (I think unless it's 7, confusing): http://like-real-us.com/content/7-infos. BTW, they are in Europe somewhere.
I know a local guy who would definitely do your color, but you have to PM me. He does a 1-3 way (that goes for anyone else). I think he would do any skin color. (perhaps on the range with RM).
RM of course. You might want to get the RM basic packer and see how you like the fit and so on.  The basic packer has 5 colors and the prosthetic 14-17 colors.
And the peacock (5 colors). In Taiwan or Singapore.
Then there are the "high end" packers which are silicone (lots in the thread above).

It's true Mr Limpy and Sailor (and Masho) don't have many colors (and shame onto them) but since you can pay a bit more you have some other options.

--Jay
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: overdrive on February 10, 2014, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: aleon515 on February 10, 2014, 12:08:32 PM
There are a couple other options then LikeReal (they were having a sale but not sure if it is over), there are different reviews of them. They have 5 colors (I think unless it's 7, confusing): http://like-real-us.com/content/7-infos. BTW, they are in Europe somewhere.

I just ordered from Like Real and they now have 7 standard colors though they also will do colors in between their 7 standard ones as well. You just make note of what you're looking for in the notes, and they do have a lot of dark colors now. They have color samples you can order, and since money isn't an issue you may want to just order some. All of their products were on sale a couple weeks ago, about half are still on sale. They are fast to respond to emails, very helpful and the prosthetic ships quickly (mine shipped within 5 business days of paying)
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Frank on February 11, 2014, 12:53:48 PM
Reel Magick has updated to offer many skin tones (I'm sure you could find one to match), if you feel like spending $500+
Personally I just deal with it and go for the "asian" or "caramel" tone packy that's like twelve or fifteen bucks. It's not like I sit around looking at it all day. Oh, I hadn't seen it mentioned but there's also a "Dj knows dick" you might check out.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Brandon on February 11, 2014, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: Frank on February 11, 2014, 12:53:48 PM
Reel Magick has updated to offer many skin tones (I'm sure you could find one to match), if you feel like spending $500+
Personally I just deal with it and go for the "asian" or "caramel" tone packy that's like twelve or fifteen bucks. It's not like I sit around looking at it all day. Oh, I hadn't seen it mentioned but there's also a "Dj knows dick" you might check out.


Thats you man but when I look down there I wanna see something that matches my skin tone, And since I'm in highschool you know how people act. I mean I'm just saying its bad enough that I don't have the right part but the least they can do is realize that everyone is the same color.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: aleon515 on February 11, 2014, 04:20:42 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 11, 2014, 02:37:40 PM

Thats you man but when I look down there I wanna see something that matches my skin tone, And since I'm in highschool you know how people act. I mean I'm just saying its bad enough that I don't have the right part but the least they can do is realize that everyone is the same color.

Something that has 5-7 color options might work out for you. YOu are not going to get a very exact color match unless you go with some company like RM. They are going to be able match you pretty well. All that said, you know these things don't match Caucasians very well either. I don't mean that it is exactly an identical situation as some companies seem not to even try to get close to colors that POC could use, like MASHO. If you can't get a fair match with 5-7 colors, then maybe you have unrealistic expectations, perhaps. These things are not skin. A prosthetic should be a pretty good match though since they have a palette of 15-20 colors.

--Jay
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Brandon on February 11, 2014, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: aleon515 on February 11, 2014, 04:20:42 PM
Something that has 5-7 color options might work out for you. YOu are not going to get a very exact color match unless you go with some company like RM. They are going to be able match you pretty well. All that said, you know these things don't match Caucasians very well either. I don't mean that it is exactly an identical situation as some companies seem not to even try to get close to colors that POC could use, like MASHO. If you can't get a fair match with 5-7 colors, then maybe you have unrealistic expectations, perhaps. These things are not skin. A prosthetic should be a pretty good match though since they have a palette of 15-20 colors.

--Jay


I think its alot harder for African Americans though mainly the lighter guys like me because I'm mixed
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: timbuck2 on February 11, 2014, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 11, 2014, 06:08:53 PM

I think its alot harder for African Americans though mainly the lighter guys like me because I'm mixed

You need to get used to the fact that these things can only be as possible as a prosthetic because thats all they are. Go through color palletes and pick the one that matches best because as of right now thats the best you're going to get.
There are many men who have a penis that is lighter/darker/two toned. There's no such thing as a perfect penis, work with what you have available to you.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: CursedFireDean on February 11, 2014, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 11, 2014, 06:08:53 PM

I think its alot harder for African Americans though mainly the lighter guys like me because I'm mixed

We get that it's hard to find non-white packers, I think all jay is trying to say is even white guys who have lots of options can't find a perfect match. Packers I've seen don't match my skin tone well, but I've accepted that sorta of close is all I can manage at the moment. The few packers that have varying shades may not match you, but they don't match many white guys either, but something will be close.it sucks but you may have to settle for something similar, not perfect. Same as surgeries- they may not be perfect but guys either find one good enough for them or decide to go without.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Brandon on February 11, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: timbuck2 on February 11, 2014, 07:52:22 PM
You need to get used to the fact that these things can only be as possible as a prosthetic because thats all they are. Go through color palletes and pick the one that matches best because as of right now thats the best you're going to get.
There are many men who have a penis that is lighter/darker/two toned. There's no such thing as a perfect penis, work with what you have available to you.


I understand that and I did not say it was but if your gonna use something to ease the dysphoria, your gonna expect it to match.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Brandon on February 11, 2014, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: CursedFireDean on February 11, 2014, 07:56:08 PM
We get that it's hard to find non-white packers, I think all jay is trying to say is even white guys who have lots of options can't find a perfect match. Packers I've seen don't match my skin tone well, but I've accepted that sorta of close is all I can manage at the moment. The few packers that have varying shades may not match you, but they don't match many white guys either, but something will be close.it sucks but you may have to settle for something similar, not perfect. Same as surgeries- they may not be perfect but guys either find one good enough for them or decide to go without.


My only point was that black just don't have one skin tone or two, we have multiple tones especially as I already said being mixed, so its really hard alot of white guys don't really have that problem, Ive rarely heard of a white guy complain about his packer Ive seen packers for white guys that would actually match, Unlike a lightskin black dude this is why Ive held off, If your gonna make something thats gonna ease dysphoria realize that everyones skin tone is different. I already know what my tone would be its darker on my lower area.
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: aleon515 on February 11, 2014, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 11, 2014, 06:08:53 PM

I think its alot harder for African Americans though mainly the lighter guys like me because I'm mixed

Yes, I definitely agree about that. Most esp with packers. I actually did say this. I think once you get to prosthetics, you REALLY should be able to get a more appropriate match, if you want to go this direction. If there are 17-19 colors (or even just 7), you should be able to get something close. I am sure that RM and other companies will work with you.

--Jay
Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: V M on February 11, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
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Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: V M on February 27, 2014, 07:12:27 PM
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Title: Re: Packers for colored transmales
Post by: Calder Smith on February 27, 2014, 08:02:07 PM
I understand how it is, Brandon. I've been looking up packers and can't find quite the right skin tone. I'm mixed race; a lot of the caramel ones are too light and don't look right.