Ok.. yes its great I love it but...I am showing.
I have been cutting weight fast but the only thing not getting smaller is my butt and thighs and my chest..Especially my chest
I started working out three times a day hoping it would slow a bit..
If I wear a regular soft t shirt they show... not to mention the nipples that are alive now... :)
I was thinking about getting a sport bra... that fits tight.. but during summer not sure what kind of shirts to wear.. I may have to quit wearing t shirts for good.
My brother was over and its the first time I felt ooops I can't really hide this.. and I have only been on HRT for almost two months.
Its really an awesome problem to have I just thought it took longer... they also kinda hurt.. sort of an ache feeling so I know they are doing something....
Carrie
As someone that lives in a terribly hot place (Brazil), I am used to wearing t-shirts almost the entire year. Even before HRT I already had a significant degree of gynecomastia, so I always tried to hide my breasts.
- I learned to wear dark colors, like black, dark-gray or deep-blue/green t-shirts.
- I have a few sports bra and compression undershirts that helped me when I needed to wear white social shirts.
- Large sizes can help you hide your breasts but you can ennd looking like someone that loves hip-hop and skating.
I don't wear large sizes, so I had to stick with dark colors. So far I've been able to hide it from almost everyone. Only my mother makes some comments sometimes (when I am on my pajamas).
Thanks for the tips Natalia,
Dark shirts.. for sure need to get some... I was wearing a thin soft light blue shirt and I looked down and hello...
Carrie
Hi Carrie,
My beautiful breasts seem to think it is a race :icon_walk:. At the moment they are winning it too. I just live with it and have only had to deal with immediate family. My boob growth is what caused me to sit my kids (17 and 18) down and explain everything in January. Work is becoming an issue as I see people glancing but so far, no comments. Some of my business shirts are at the point of "OUT" :o Larger sizes may work for a bit longer.
The other point is that while my breasts feel large and very visible, to everyone else there isn't that big an impact. Some growth can be dismissed as residual fat from weight loss. That only deals with the issue for a while though.
The main way I am dealing with it is to prepare for going full time. I have lots to do and prepare for (finish electro, wig stuff, wardrobe, voice, mannerisms, part time etc) so need to get going if me and my breasts are to meet up at the same point.
Straight men in particular have highly attuned boobdars, they can sense mammaries from a considerable distance. Depending on your overall physique though they might be "interpreted" as moobs. Ever since I stopped transition the first time I learned to live with small girl boobs by using loose shirts and tees (sturdy cotton types) that weren't tucked in - it's the tucking in that will really pop the girls out. Other tricks I use include (as noted above) wearing dark colours and wearing a tighter tee under a shirt (buttoned or not). Depending on your climate, wearing an unbuttoned jacket will also do the trick. You should try to avoid compressing your breasts too much while they are maturing, apart from it being painful and uncomfortable you might deny them their ultimate glory! :D
Always stand behind someone who is larger than you.
Emma same here sure relate to what you are saying.. I am really wondering how long I can go unnoticed ... so the coming out may be a bit sooner...
Swimming is out.. for now.. and the lake..
Carrie
Quote from: EmmaD on February 14, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Hi Carrie,
My beautiful breasts seem to think it is a race :icon_walk:. At the moment they are winning it too. I just live with it and have only had to deal with immediate family. My boob growth is what caused me to sit my kids (17 and 18) down and explain everything in January. Work is becoming an issue as I see people glancing but so far, no comments. Some of my business shirts are at the point of "OUT" :o Larger sizes may work for a bit longer.
The other point is that while my breasts feel large and very visible, to everyone else there isn't that big an impact. Some growth can be dismissed as residual fat from weight loss. That only deals with the issue for a while though.
The main way I am dealing with it is to prepare for going full time. I have lots to do and prepare for (finish electro, wig stuff, wardrobe, voice, mannerisms, part time etc) so need to get going if me and my breasts are to meet up at the same point.
MS Grace,
I think what is making them more prominent is my weight loss.. I am getting cut and have a V and long waist so now when leaned back in a chair they just say hello... I'm here...
I also don't want my wife to notice too much so will start dressing with open button down shirts every day.. no more running around it T's..
It is wonderful to be getting what I wanted as a kid.. yea!! and scary too.
Carrie
Quote from: Ms Grace on February 14, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Straight men in particular have highly attuned boobdars, they can sense mammaries from a considerable distance. Depending on your overall physique though they might be "interpreted" as moobs. Ever since I stopped transition the first time I learned to live with small girl boobs by using loose shirts and tees (sturdy cotton types) that weren't tucked in - it's the tucking in that will really pop the girls out. Other tricks I use include (as noted above) wearing dark colours and wearing a tighter tee under a shirt (buttoned or not). Depending on your climate, wearing an unbuttoned jacket will also do the trick. You should try to avoid compressing your breasts too much while they are maturing, apart from it being painful and uncomfortable you might deny them their ultimate glory! :D
Despite our best planning, there are times we have to jump the line. Why not go full time now?
I'm in the same boat.
Double-breasted suit jacket is quickly taking on a new meaning. >:-)
Paulagirl..
Full time will take some time but its getting harder..since trimming down Will need FFS so I am two years out.... I have a really long waist and a decent V so they really show up..so won't be long and no T will do the trick.
The other problem is that I don't feel like a guy at all anymore and its strange in public.
My wife gives me pep talks like don't do this or don't do that.. when we go into a store... cracks me up.
I am kind of enjoying the process ...seeing where it goes...and I feel great for the first time..
My chest really ached today and was sore.. ..I like it though.. what I wanted as a kid never got is happening..
Carrie
Quote from: Paulagirl on February 15, 2014, 06:53:47 PM
Despite our best planning, there are times we have to jump the line. Why not go full time now?
So your wife knows? You don't want her to notice yet in case it freaks her out?
Quote from: Ms Grace on February 14, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Straight men in particular have highly attuned boobdars, they can sense mammaries from a considerable distance.
OMG this reminds of a time I wore a long sleeve t-shirt to a scout meeting and I could swear the scoutmaster was checking me out while we were talking. He was not making eye contact with my eyes, that's for sure. But I don't know if he knew what he was looking at--does that make sense? I've been more conscious since then about what I wear:
- Dark and larger t-shirts; with lighter or tighter t-shirts I wear a button-down over shirt with it.
- I've been wearing a sports bra a lot more. Wore one to an all day scouting event today. Haven't worn it to work yet--don't want to be "discovered" there just yet.
- I wear darker shirts to work. No more form-fitting white shirts for me.
Jane
My current strategy is a plain white T under my business attire.
Seems to work for now.
What a nice problem to have:)
Good fitting unlined underwire bra, nylon cami, nylon male tshirt, large shirt usually not thin (I am a medium), and a large loose sweater. A scarf. (its winter, and theatrical). Probably a suit jacket too.
Going to be interesting this summer I live in florida and work as an estimator in construction. Eeek.
I have more issues with my nails than my boobs. I am a solid A moving to B on the left. No one has figured it out yet without me telling them.
Ms Grace,
I think she just wants to pretend its not happening.. but heck she bought me blue nail polish a while back.
And now she thinks of me as female and no longer attracted to me.. even says i look fem now.. YEA! Hope that gets even better.
Carrie
Quote from: Ms Grace on February 15, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
So your wife knows? You don't want her to notice yet in case it freaks her out?
I started by binding with an Ace bandage. It was suffocating to say the least, so I got myself a couple of sports bras and started wearing baggy, button up shirts. They seem to do the trick, as I am stealth for a bunch of reasons. Also walk with sort of a hunch on purpose. They're getting big enough to where I myself do need to jump the line and go full time.
I have some Spanx compression tanks that seem to keep them under control. Mine aren't really that much of a problem, yet, anyway. But they are definitely there and when I'm wearing anything else, they are very obvious. Like OMG-you-have-boobs obvious. I suppose I should measure them sometime.
I had large A-cup to small B-cup boobs from gynecomastia from the time I was 13 or so. Just my screwy hormones. Unless you are wearing tight clothing, they really won't be seen as out of the ordinary.
I will admit, when they have a growth spurt, it's like everyone is looking at you.
I've had to ditch all of my thinner, lighter colored t-shirts and replace them with thicker black ones. My daily work wear is a pair of jeans and a dress shirt, so I wear a sleeveless undershirt and I make sure that the dress shirt is baggy. You can still catch glimpses of them, but if you didn't know you would just assume it was a weird crease or something in the shirt, or maybe think it was pecs. I plan on going full time around mid year and I think I can get by until then. Maybe.
When I wear one of my thin tight female cotton shirts and a bra it's like "well, hello there girls!" LOL..... my therapist said "You've got boobs!" to me recently with a shocked voice.
Yep :)
I use Jockey Seamfree T-Shirts. They are expensive, but frequently on sale. I once got 70% off.
http://www.jockey.com/catalog/product/jockey-seamfree-crew
I swim topless, but they would provide some modesty with swim trunks of a similar color.
They are stretchy and hold the girls in, without being too constrictive.
Randi
I have this same problem and have written on this forum about this some months ago. I am still in the closet and I had not anticipated that my boobs would get so large so fast. I am a banker and a financial investment speaker. I am always told that cis males would not notice as much as females and that so many males have man boobs, plus we tend to be more aware of our boobs than friends and strangers. I live in a major financial city where we have very hot humid summers. So far during the winter I use small size Lycra A or T shirts. It compresses comfortably and its thicker so the nipples dont show as much. This will be the first summer that I have size - last summer it was early stage so I had no problems and wore a stretch sun vest. This summer I plan to just put up with the heat and continue with the lycra undershirts, wear looser fitting shirts. I will have to bear the presperation. Also for the swimming I will wear a heavier sun vest. Also, I noticed that multi color sport shirts and dark colors work. Its all a hassle but I need to wait.
I'm currently struggling with this right now at work. I have to wear white dress shirts as part of the dress code. I'm able to wear a blazer or chambray color shirts, but I don't have either. I'm desperately trying to find some that fit me. Being small really sucks sometimes.
Quote from: carrie359 on February 14, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
MS Grace,
I think what is making them more prominent is my weight loss.. I am getting cut and have a V and long waist so now when leaned back in a chair they just say hello... I'm here...
I also don't want my wife to notice too much so will start dressing with open button down shirts every day.. no more running around it T's..
I
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Satinjoy "Good fitting unlined underwire bra, nylon cami, nylon male tshirt, large shirt usually not thin (I am a medium), and a large loose sweater. A scarf. (its winter, and theatrical). Probably a suit jacket too."
I find that a underwire bra shows them off more almost like a pushup. I use a sports bra vest that doesn't have any thin shoulder straps or metal peices in back to feel or show through. dark full shirts are good and laying is good if it too hot.
Emily,
LOL yep you knew the answer to that question.. heck no if anything I want more E....I like the problem..
Anyway thanks for the tips..
Carrie
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on February 19, 2014, 01:52:46 AM
How about talking with Your endo and cutting down Your E dosage a bit to slow things down? :) Ok, stupid question, I know :).
Diamond pattern/tartan pattern fabric will blend any mounds in amazingly - I strongly suggest these. As other posters already mentioned - avoid thin fabric and sizes which fits Your current size (use one size bigger, maybe more). I have A cup in somewhere between Tanner III and IV and they usually dont cause me much trouble (I dont even need a bra as wearing one would make them stand out even more noticeable) - but lets say plain turtlenecks are out of question now - unless I wear quite tight undershirt the sight is pretty much unmistakable. Tucking Your shirts in indeed create extra "visibility" while wearing them out - providing that those are male cut - makes them fall down naturally in straight lines and kinda conceal anything which is not supposed to be there. I have many andro-style shirts which are male but are a bit tight-tailored around waistline (absolutely love those), but they tend to accentuate waistline and bring out anything above that.
And of course, having them inevitably changes Your posture which could be another giveaway...
maybe now is the time to come out then lol :)
Quote from: mm on February 19, 2014, 09:38:14 AM
Satinjoy "Good fitting unlined underwire bra, nylon cami, nylon male tshirt, large shirt usually not thin (I am a medium), and a large loose sweater. A scarf. (its winter, and theatrical). Probably a suit jacket too."
I find that a underwire bra shows them off more almost like a pushup. I use a sports bra vest that doesn't have any thin shoulder straps or metal peices in back to feel or show through. dark full shirts are good and laying is good if it too hot.
I know, I just really like underwire and hiding at the same time lol ;)
Enjoy your "girls", girls, what a lovely problem :)
Satinjoy, Yes, you can definite feel and see them nicely with an underwire bra, just have to understand you have to do a better job of hiding them if you don't want to show everyone what you have on your chest. Maybe you need to get serious about going full time.
My sister noticed mine the other day and my wife just kind of ignores it...
I am going to Mexico for a Wedding in June and thought oh crap I wont be able to go to the beach...
My sis said I could get one of those body suites that fit tight and could work...
By then I will have lost about from 240lbs to about 170lbs ..and been on HRT for 7 months.
I could have an interesting figure.
Seems I am loosing weight in the right places and gaining fat in the girl places.. kind of cool...
My hair will be a lot longer too..
Also, flying and going through security could suck...not even thought about that yet.
Carrie
Quote from: Eva Marie on February 18, 2014, 11:22:51 PM
I've had to ditch all of my thinner, lighter colored t-shirts and replace them with thicker black ones. My daily work wear is a pair of jeans and a dress shirt, so I wear a sleeveless undershirt and I make sure that the dress shirt is baggy. You can still catch glimpses of them, but if you didn't know you would just assume it was a weird crease or something in the shirt, or maybe think it was pecs. I plan on going full time around mid year and I think I can get by until then. Maybe.
When I wear one of my thin tight female cotton shirts and a bra it's like "well, hello there girls!" LOL..... my therapist said "You've got boobs!" to me recently with a shocked voice.
Yep :)
I think sadly the OP demonstrates why RLE is necessary before HRT....
Jebee,
OMG no.. some can't do RLE before HRT for lots of reasons. Everyone is different.. different ages and goals.
The key is the standards of care and to require RLE before can be cruel and punishing.
As you may know it take a while for HRT to do its job.
The key is a plan that one can be comfortable with.. its a big deal to transition right??
My plan has many steps and I am also lucky enough to afford FFS and ability to do other things to pass.
No one wants to just put on a dress and go out in public if they cant pass at all.. thats cruel.
Also when done right transition can be a wonderful experience.
I am enjoying the changes and can deal with it. Its all part of it and why we are here to support each other and give and seek advise.
Carrie
Quote from: jebee on February 21, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
I think sadly the OP demonstrates why RLE is necessary before HRT....
Quote from: carrie359 on February 22, 2014, 12:34:26 PM
Jebee,
OMG no.. some can't do RLE before HRT for lots of reasons. Everyone is different.. different ages and goals.
The key is the standards of care and to require RLE before can be cruel and punishing.
As you may know it take a while for HRT to do its job.
The key is a plan that one can be comfortable with.. its a big deal to transition right??
My plan has many steps and I am also lucky enough to afford FFS and ability to do other things to pass.
No one wants to just put on a dress and go out in public if they cant pass at all.. thats cruel.
Also when done right transition can be a wonderful experience.
I am enjoying the changes and can deal with it. Its all part of it and why we are here to support each other and give and seek advise.
Carrie
the standards of care are there for a reason.
I agree with Ms Grace. I recommend a crew neck undershirt that is one size too small. Over that, a loose fitting shirt.
Quote from: jebee on February 22, 2014, 04:51:11 PM
the standards of care are there for a reason.
There are different standards. Which one is the correct?
Perhaps some girls can pass without HRT or can go trough an open and public transition...but this is not the reality for the most of us.
I think that making someone to go out dressed as a woman without HRT can't prove anything and may even be a cause of traumas. The real experience of living as a woman can only be achieved with the right body. It is not as easily as choosing a wig and a dress and getting out. Anyone who try this would get a strong reaction from society and this won't be nowhere close to the real experience of living as a woman. This can be dangerous!
Particulary, if I had to go live as a woman in order to start hormones I'd more likely stay as I was...I'd stay with my sad life, drowning in depression and fleeing for virtual worlds in order to forget my real life. Why? I couldn't pass for sure. I don't need people looking at me with hate or even coming after me to hit me. I wouldn't feel good looking like a man in a dress.
I only want to go out as a woman when I am ready, when my body is looking feminine, with my voice prepared and with my mind calm and tuned with myself. Why to rush things? What good can come from this?
"the standards of care are there for a reason."
Thank God. I go FTE, I lose my marrage. No deal.
Thank God they allow 3 months therapy and then hormones based on that understanding instead of the RLE.
Nobody has read me yet. Its the thick, big sweaters. ;)
Natalia,
My therapist would agree 100% with what you said and she is going along with the standards of care as they are.
She does not believe in RLE before hormones but all depends on the person..
We did discuss... what would happen on HRT if lets say I get huge fast.. and well then we deal with it.. I am fortunate to be able to work from home so I can go full time whenever I feel comfy..
RLE is old school... and not part of standard of care before HRT.
Thanks for your post....
Carrie-
Quote from: Natalia on February 22, 2014, 05:35:03 PM
There are different standards. Which one is the correct?
Perhaps some girls can pass without HRT or can go trough an open and public transition...but this is not the reality for the most of us.
I think that making someone to go out dressed as a woman without HRT can't prove anything and may even be a cause of traumas. The real experience of living as a woman can only be achieved with the right body. It is not as easily as choosing a wig and a dress and getting out. Anyone who try this would get a strong reaction from society and this won't be nowhere close to the real experience of living as a woman. This can be dangerous!
Particulary, if I had to go live as a woman in order to start hormones I'd more likely stay as I was...I'd stay with my sad life, drowning in depression and fleeing for virtual worlds in order to forget my real life. Why? I couldn't pass for sure. I don't need people looking at me with hate or even coming after me to hit me. I wouldn't feel good looking like a man in a dress.
I only want to go out as a woman when I am ready, when my body is looking feminine, with my voice prepared and with my mind calm and tuned with myself. Why to rush things? What good can come from this?