About the only negative thing of being a women is aging. Women show there age more than men.....or I should say they don't get admired for looking older... sigh....
On the other hand if you have the money you can get all the plastic surgery to keep you looking young...or should I say looking different??
Just seen Goldie Hawn and Beth Midler on the Oscars....even though they look great for their age....you can definitely tell they had some modifications....I can't blame them!! It sucks to look old!!
I guess I'm lucky to be just an ordinary old lady....with no money! I do wish though I could afford some of those plasteeek surgery booobs
I was talking to an older woman after church today about her boyfriend and she started telling me all sorts of stuff, including her age. She's ten years older than me (I'm 62) and I thought she looked fantastic. I guess it's all in how well we take care of ourselves, genetics, and in knowing how to look decent without going overboard. I'm kind of happy with the way I am right now. I don't need much makeup, and look just slightly older than I really am. And it's kind of funny how all of a sudden older women have begun to sit and talk to me about woman stuff. Oh yeah health issues and gossip ... lots of it.
You see, there are some good things about being older.
I know many old women. Not one of them is unhappy about being old (though they would all prefer they not be visited by those ailments that leave young people alone). My theory is that in their 70+ years of life, they've picked up the secrets to self-acceptance and appreciation for what's beautiful about the world.
One of the most graceful women I know that visits a monthly LGBT meeting in my area is timeless, not old. Lord only knows when she transitioned(20 years ago? 50? No one can tell.)
One does have some control over how they age.
I also consider some publicly TS women like L Conway, or A James. They are good examples of taking care of yourself. It can have benefits.
Quote from: Missy~rmdlm on March 03, 2014, 11:29:00 AM
One of the most graceful women I know that visits a monthly LGBT meeting in my area is timeless, not old. Lord only knows when she transitioned(20 years ago? 50? No one can tell.)
One does have some control over how they age.
I also consider some publicly TS women like L Conway, or A James. They are good examples of taking care of yourself. It can have benefits.
thanks for the info
I agree. I do think it is more about how society looks at aging women vs. men. Not fair. I look younger than any of my younger siblings though. I think changing hormonal mix at the age I did had something to do with that? Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?
My 72 year old mother looks fantastic without surgery. She says it is all about moisturizing! I think she is conscious of the sun, too.
For what it is worth, my mother swears by this skincare line: http://www.dhccare.com/DHC/Default.aspx She has been using it for the last 8 years.
Expensive, though! Well, to me, anyway.
ETA: I hope it is ok to stepped into your forum to share this. Thought it might be helpful.
Quote from: Jen on March 03, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I agree. I do think it is more about how society looks at aging women vs. men. Not fair. I look younger than any of my younger siblings though. I think changing hormonal mix at the age I did had something to do with that? Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?
I just looked at a picture that I took before HRT and theirs quite a big age gap going on
I don't care about the aging process. You can't stop it so, why worry about it? I would much rather be aging instead of dying an early death.
Quote from: Jen on March 03, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I agree. I do think it is more about how society looks at aging women vs. men. Not fair. I look younger than any of my younger siblings though. I think changing hormonal mix at the age I did had something to do with that? Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?
Yes, people look at me when I mention that I'm going on 71 and they are floored. I think that many years before I ever began transitioning and threw out the after shave skin bracers and all that skin drying stuff and began using women's facial products and moisturizers that it has helped considerably, and I do believe that the hormonal swap along with genetics all comes into play.
Skin care routine, sun, smoking, alcohol, diet and exercise have a great influence over ageing, inside and out. You do have a little control over how genetics plays out. That said, HRT has had a strange effect on me over the last 20 years. Maybe it's to do with high oestrogen levels? But I haven't changed much in those years.
Quote from: Jen on March 03, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I agree. I do think it is more about how society looks at aging women vs. men. Not fair. I look younger than any of my younger siblings though. I think changing hormonal mix at the age I did had something to do with that? Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?
I would like to believe I did! I know when I was in the in-between stage of my transition...those who knew of my born gender often were shocked to hear how old I was...in fact I was once mistaken for a twenty something young man...well the man thing came after I had to tell them my legal gender at the time.
Since my transition aging has become more of a thing I am regretting...at least the appearance of my age, that is!! Now that I have assimilated into society as the female gender, I have had some men guess my age fairly close UGH!! In fact one rude guy thought I was even older than my age....
One reason I have quit smoking and have a strict skin care regiment including using sun screen everyday, is because of the vanity associated with appearing younger than my age...at least I'm honest :)
Maybe my current age shows (25) but aging is a very hard thing for me to deal with. I really get upset when I consider all the things that I've missed out on already in life. The idea that I can never really have or experience a female childhood is a difficult thing for me. It's something that will always be out of reach. Beauty fades and I understand that's not something that will exist forever, but it would also be nice for me to feel beautiful for once in my life after so many years of dysphoria with my body. That being said, there are gorgeous older women out there, so it's not like aging should mean someone is losing their looks. Hell, there are many women that are older than me that I remain incredibly jealous of. So, I don't think the looks aspect is really that big of a deal. For me, it's more about the youthful life that I can never have. I'm 25 and yet I really haven't lived the life I wanted. Sadly, I'm an adult woman and no longer have a chance to experience what it means to be a young lady. Yes, I've lived it in my heart, but I will never get to experience all that comes with it. That's the real downside to the aging process.
Quote from: Just Shelly on March 03, 2014, 05:00:10 PM
I would like to believe I did! I know when I was in the in-between stage of my transition...those who knew of my born gender often were shocked to hear how old I was...in fact I was once mistaken for a twenty something young man...well the man thing came after I had to tell them my legal gender at the time.
Since my transition aging has become more of a thing I am regretting...at least the appearance of my age, that is!! Now that I have assimilated into society as the female gender, I have had some men guess my age fairly close UGH!! In fact one rude guy thought I was even older than my age....
One reason I have quit smoking and have a strict skin care regiment including using sun screen everyday, is because of the vanity associated with appearing younger than my age...at least I'm honest :)
Oh, I have peeps guess close a lot too, esp on bad days lol. But usually when they get it wrong it is on the younger side, sometimes way off. But I think it is because I am old enough to have wrinkles but don't really. Which I give not being happy/smiling for a couple decades a lot of credit for. Not worth it!
Quote from: learningtolive on March 03, 2014, 06:53:21 PM
Maybe my current age shows (25) but aging is a very hard thing for me to deal with. I really get upset when I consider all the things that I've missed out on already in life. The idea that I can never really have or experience a female childhood is a difficult thing for me. It's something that will always be out of reach. Beauty fades and I understand that's not something that will exist forever, but it would also be nice for me to feel beautiful for once in my life after so many years of dysphoria with my body. That being said, there are gorgeous older women out there, so it's not like aging should mean someone is losing their looks. Hell, there are many women that are older than me that I remain incredibly jealous of. So, I don't think the looks aspect is really that big of a deal. For me, it's more about the youthful life that I can never have. I'm 25 and yet I really haven't lived the life I wanted. Sadly, I'm an adult woman and no longer have a chance to experience what it means to be a young lady. Yes, I've lived it in my heart, but I will never get to experience all that comes with it. That's the real downside to the aging process.
Oh don't even go there!! :)
I think I regret my age more because of what I missed than for the matter of just getting old.....even now I feel like time is running out before I can have GRS. I would like the ability to date with the correct anatomical equipment before I get too old. Especially now since I see men entirely different then before!!
I do think back to when I was 25 often...I was very close to starting my transition then. I don't look back as much in regret, mostly because I had the ability to have 3 wonderful children that completed me even more.....but I wonder who I would of been if I did transition then.
People think I am at my 20s, even teens when just looking at my body shape, but when they see my face closely, it disappoints them. For body, we need exercise. For face, we need money, IMHO.
About two months ago, I got fillers to decrease wrinkles. Those wrinkle fillers did not work well for me.
And, I got the first of 3 sessions of fractional laser resurfacing treatment a few weeks ago. It is still ongoing, and I am not sure of the effectiveness.
Yesterday I ordered the following REDEFINE Regimen creams:
https://www.rodanandfields.com/shop/redefine
I hope it will work for me.
And the total cost during the last 2 months is not so much expensive: ca. US$ 2,000.
During the last 2 months, I wrote and published a scientific paper for a company here, and they gave me ca. US$ 4,000. I can invest more!
barbie~~
Quote from: Just Shelly on March 02, 2014, 10:12:48 PM. Women show there age more than men.....or I should say they don't get admired for looking older... sigh....
Balding, beergut, pot bellied men don't get admired too...especially when they're looking middle aged before their time, say, early 30's...
The kind of 'admired' older men you're talking about is very, very rare, someone like George Clooney or Brad Pitt.
Quote from: Jen on March 03, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I look younger than any of my younger siblings though. I think changing hormonal mix at the age I did had something to do with that? Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?
Yes! I now look way younger than my actual age. I occasionally see pictures of the guys I went to high school with on Facebook and they all look like broken down old men now. I guess that's my revenge since I took so much abuse from them back then :laugh:
As a woman I also spend a lot of time now taking care of my skin and body.
Quote from: barbie on March 04, 2014, 01:07:35 AM
People think I am at my 20s, even teens when just looking at my body shape, but when they see my face closely, it disappoints them. For body, we need exercise. For face, we need money, IMHO.
About two months ago, I got fillers to decrease wrinkles. Those wrinkle fillers did not work well for me.
And, I got the first of 3 sessions of fractional laser resurfacing treatment a few weeks ago. It is still ongoing, and I am not sure of the effectiveness.
Yesterday I ordered the following REDEFINE Regimen creams:
https://www.rodanandfields.com/shop/redefine
I hope it will work for me.
And the total cost during the last 2 months is not so much expensive: ca. US$ 2,000.
During the last 2 months, I wrote and published a scientific paper for a company here, and they gave me ca. US$ 4,000. I can invest more!
barbie~~
Try synapause, a hormone topical creme, used for vaginal dryness etc...as a nightcream, works wonders on your skin.
It won't end up in your bloodstream because it has a low retention.
And steer clear from fillers for known reasons and from lasers too... just google 'laserdamage'
Quote from: Dahlia on March 04, 2014, 06:32:23 AM
Quote from: Just Shelly on March 02, 2014, 10:12:48 PM. Women show there age more than men.....or I should say they don't get admired for looking older... sigh....
Balding, beergut, pot bellied men don't get admired too...especially when they're looking middle aged before their time, say, early 30's...
The kind of 'admired' older men you're talking about is very, very rare, someone like George Clooney or Brad Pitt.
True, but the difference is the importance placed on women's looks. For a guy to be considered good looking, is just sort of the icing on the cake while for a woman the actual cake is her looks and any other qualities are treated like the icing. (From a societal point of view, anyway. I know most people don't feel this way about the women in their lives.)
Quote from: Dahlia on March 04, 2014, 06:32:23 AM
Balding, beergut, pot bellied men don't get admired too...especially when they're looking middle aged before their time, say, early 30's...
The kind of 'admired' older men you're talking about is very, very rare, someone like George Clooney or Brad Pitt.
It's true we don't think every old man is hot, but there is an enormous disparity between the number of aging men that are considered attractive compared to women.
Quote from: Just Shelly on March 03, 2014, 08:05:41 PM
Oh don't even go there!! :)
I think I regret my age more because of what I missed than for the matter of just getting old.....even now I feel like time is running out before I can have GRS. I would like the ability to date with the correct anatomical equipment before I get too old. Especially now since I see men entirely different then before!!
I do think back to when I was 25 often...I was very close to starting my transition then. I don't look back as much in regret, mostly because I had the ability to have 3 wonderful children that completed me even more.....but I wonder who I would of been if I did transition then.
What ifs are tempting, but usually don't lead to good feelings. And the fact that you have 3 children who you seem to love is likely is an amazing accomplishment.
It's funny but there are so many older women that I look up to. In fact, age doesn't always need to be a negative thing. Sometimes age allows a certain level of wisdom and maturity that is more than valuable youth alone. And I know plenty of youthful looking women that don't look their age, including the op of this post. :) Don't let it get you down. Sometimes I do and then I realize how silly it really is even though I'll always be a bit sad about what I've missed out on.
As for age determining attraction, it's not really a factor in my book. I think there are plenty of handsome older men, though I wouldn't really consider dating someone too much outside my age group. I'm sure there are men who feel the same way about "older" women.
Quote from: learningtolive on March 04, 2014, 06:55:54 PM
What ifs are tempting, but usually don't lead to good feelings.
This is wise.
I'm tempted often to wonder what my life would have been like if I'd transitioned as a teenager.
But being a woman is all the more rewarding and amazing for having been denied me for 50 years.
Quote from: suzifrommd on March 04, 2014, 07:00:37 PM
Quote from: learningtolive on March 04, 2014, 06:55:54 PM
What ifs are tempting, but usually don't lead to good feelings.
This is wise.
I'm tempted often to wonder what my life would have been like if I'd transitioned as a teenager.
But being a woman is all the more rewarding and amazing for having been denied me for 50 years.
Good point. And mature women were revered at one point and in some places probably still are. It's really only now that there's only one 'age' of woman. Naomi Wolf puts it well - men have different acceptable stages according to today's society - boy and man. Women nowadays have only - girl. The other stages of a woman's life are no longer celebrated. Women today are told to try to look like girls forever. Most women in their 50s today are probably feeling like their best days are behind them. Maybe it takes a new woman emerging into herself as a mature woman of 50+ to recognize and feel the glory of what was once felt by the mature woman.
You know, there was a dear friend on here years ago that I still miss who identified herself as 'crone'. I don't know how old she was, but it wasn't important. She transitioned and adopted the term 'crone'. I think she said a woman's stages of life went something like - maiden, mother, crone. I thought that was fabulous.
Quote from: FA on March 04, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
This is wise.
I'm tempted often to wonder what my life would have been like if I'd transitioned as a teenager.
But being a woman is all the more rewarding and amazing for having been denied me for 50 years.
Good point. And mature women were revered at one point and in some places probably still are. It's really only now that there's only one 'age' of woman. Naomi Wolf puts it well - men have different acceptable stages according to today's society - boy and man. Women nowadays have only - girl. The other stages of a woman's life are no longer celebrated. Women today are told to try to look like girls forever. Most women in their 50s today are probably feeling like their best days are behind them. Maybe it takes a new woman emerging into herself as a mature woman of 50+ to recognize and feel the glory of what was once felt by the mature woman.
You know, there was a dear friend on here years ago that I still miss who identified herself as 'crone'. I don't know how old she was, but it wasn't important. She transitioned and adopted the term 'crone'. I think she said a woman's stages of life went something like - maiden, mother, crone. I thought that was fabulous.
While I really do struggle with the concept of aging, I've always had a lot of respect for my elders. One person in particular was my college mentor. Not only was she one of the most intelligent people I've ever met, but she was accomplished in so many ways in her life and seemed to be enjoying her life to the fullest. To see her life reduced to only her age or looks would be a tragedy to me because it ignores all that she stood for as a human. This can apply to many other women out there. Sadly, people do put too much stock on beauty and as I transition it's really taking it's toll on me. In the past, I enjoyed vanity, but I didn't feel like it must overtake me the way I'm starting to feel pressured to. Not once did I use to feel my looks defined me the way they do now. It's a bit sad because now I really feel it rather than see it happening around me to other girls. A woman is so much more than her looks, but all of us want to have our looks as well because we feel pressure.
Quote from: learningtolive on March 04, 2014, 08:20:34 PM
While I really do struggle with the concept of aging, I've always had a lot of respect for my elders. One person in particular was my college mentor. Not only was she one of the most intelligent people I've ever met, but she was accomplished in so many ways in her life and seemed to be enjoying her life to the fullest. To see her life reduced to only her age or looks would be a tragedy to me because it ignores all that she stood for as a human. This can apply to many other women out there. Sadly, people do put too much stock on beauty and as I transition it's really taking it's toll on me. In the past, I enjoyed vanity, but I didn't feel like it must overtake me the way I'm starting to feel pressured to. Not once did I use to feel my looks defined me the way they do now. It's a bit sad because now I really feel it rather than see it happening around me to other girls. A woman is so much more than her looks, but all of us want to have our looks as well because we feel pressure.
yep. Welcome to womanhood. Sorry that sounded snarky. But it's true. At least in the US.
I remember at 18 getting the strong message that the bloom was off the rose. Or would soon be. The message is everywhere - women are 'worth' the most in their teens and early 20s. And the younger the better. Now I'm not claiming every woman out there feels as strongly about this. But I think it's an element in most women's lives and self esteem profiles whether they realize or not. The youth and beauty thing. And that it particularly affects women deemed attractive by society. I mean, let's be honest, women who know they can't compete in the game can't afford to care that much (though they are probably affected by it from the other side).
And it's not just theory or the media. This looks thing has real implications for women in their everyday lives. Both relationships and career wise. So while I think age is a worry for everyone, women get this sort of 'I'm a depreciating asset' programming way more than men. Now I know I'm putting this in a blunt way. And at first blush, people may be like 'what!' but that's because it's so normalized.
So yeah, as a 'beautiful girl' at 18, I was getting the message of doom. That I needed to preserve myself, look into different treatments, start worrying about plastic surgery, etc, etc. I ordered hair pills and learned facial exercises. I've had bouts of anorexia eating like 200 calories a day that probably permanently destroyed my body as have most cis women. (now part of this was dysphoria but part was also about being a girl) Because it's always about the body. Always.
Societal wise, men are in a behavioral strait jacket and women are in a body strait jacket.
Quote from: FA on March 04, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
Societal wise, men are in a behavioral strait jacket and women are in a body strait jacket.
I couldn't agree with this more. The more I transition the more "free" I feel and the more self conscious I appear about my body and overall appearance.
Quote from: learningtolive on March 04, 2014, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: FA on March 04, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
Societal wise, men are in a behavioral strait jacket and women are in a body strait jacket.
I couldn't agree with this more. The more I transition the more "free" I feel and the more self conscious I appear about my body and overall appearance.
Yeah, it's almost immediate, isn't it? You really do pick up the expectations quick. I mean, I didn't get the socialization as a boy, but just walking in the world as a man, you feel the restrictions. You just automatically know how to act. Or should I say how not to act. Entering a woman's role may or may not be more subtle, but still it's picked up sooner or later. Most people just take this stuff for granted. Maybe it takes a trans person to really recognize it. Gender roles suck.
"To men a man is but a mind. Who cares what face he carries or what he wears? But a woman's body is the woman." Ambrose Bierce
Quote from: FA on March 04, 2014, 11:43:37 PM
I couldn't agree with this more. The more I transition the more "free" I feel and the more self conscious I appear about my body and overall appearance.
Yeah, it's almost immediate, isn't it? You really do pick up the expectations quick. I mean, I didn't get the socialization as a boy, but just walking in the world as a man, you feel the restrictions. You just automatically know how to act. Or should I say how not to act. Entering a woman's role may or may not be more subtle, but still it's picked up sooner or later. Most people just take this stuff for granted. Maybe it takes a trans person to really recognize it. Gender roles suck.
"To men a man is but a mind. Who cares what face he carries or what he wears? But a woman's body is the woman." Ambrose Bierce
That quote makes me mad..
Quote from: Jen on March 05, 2014, 12:41:22 AM
Quote from: FA on March 04, 2014, 11:43:37 PM
I couldn't agree with this more. The more I transition the more "free" I feel and the more self conscious I appear about my body and overall appearance.
Yeah, it's almost immediate, isn't it? You really do pick up the expectations quick. I mean, I didn't get the socialization as a boy, but just walking in the world as a man, you feel the restrictions. You just automatically know how to act. Or should I say how not to act. Entering a woman's role may or may not be more subtle, but still it's picked up sooner or later. Most people just take this stuff for granted. Maybe it takes a trans person to really recognize it. Gender roles suck.
"To men a man is but a mind. Who cares what face he carries or what he wears? But a woman's body is the woman." Ambrose Bierce
That quote makes me mad..
Well, I think it kinda sums it up, unfortunately. I don't think anyone would be caught dead saying that today.
Yeah, it makes me mad cause I think people still think that way.
I think the Eskimos had it right. When the old could no longer contribute, drop them off on the ice floe.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5024%2F5670290728_c7163f7246_m.jpg&hash=4ef062b4b7a9aea8eaf0363da0b1b8fb9e47e2b4)
Hopefully the cold would take care of them before the polar bears or the orcas. Get the kayak, I'm ready.
I would much rather be a comfortable old woman than an old man even if I can stop a timex !
I think HRT slows down aging.I'm 56 and people often tell me I don't look it despite not dyeing my hair or hardly ever wearing make up.
Quote from: FA on March 04, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
Societal wise, men are in a behavioral strait jacket and women are in a body strait jacket.
Yes, especially in dating interactions.
However in other parts of society, I haven't found being an aging woman restrictive. Younger women seem to be under much more stringent expectations as far as fashion and behavior. The older we get, it seems, the more society condones being our own women (which, face it, it the BEST part of being female).
Quote from: suzifrommd on March 05, 2014, 06:39:43 AM
Quote from: FA on March 04, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
Societal wise, men are in a behavioral strait jacket and women are in a body strait jacket.
Yes, especially in dating interactions.
However in other parts of society, I haven't found being an aging woman restrictive. Younger women seem to be under much more stringent expectations as far as fashion and behavior. The older we get, it seems, the more society condones being our own women (which, face it, it the BEST part of being female).
I imagine that's true. I've only ever been a young woman so most of my comments on female stuff come from that perspective. Older women do seem to be less scrutinized. I mean, I doubt older women get much flak for putting on 20lbs or something. Maybe in certain women's circles. As a young woman, no one ever shuts up about your body, especially other females. I imagine it's kind of similar to the way guys police other's masculinity or lack thereof.
Quote from: big kim on March 05, 2014, 02:58:45 AM
I think HRT slows down aging.I'm 56 and people often tell me I don't look it despite not dyeing my hair or hardly ever wearing make up.
New proof testosterone reason women outlive men: studyhttps://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,127233.msg1003211.html#msg1003211
barbie~~
I'm 25 and I wish I would age a little lol. It can be bad to be thought of as a teenager when you're really a mature adult! Adults dont take me seriously at all and it drives me nuts.
Quote from: HelloKitty on March 05, 2014, 12:08:41 PM
I'm 25 and I wish I would age a little lol. It can be bad to be thought of as a teenager when you're really a mature adult! Adults dont take me seriously at all and it drives me nuts.
I don't mind it so much. I went to Dairy Queen last week and the guy behind the counter referred to me as "a young lady" and I'm 36. :D So, I thought that was pretty cool.
Quote from: HelloKitty on March 05, 2014, 12:08:41 PM
I'm 25 and I wish I would age a little lol. It can be bad to be thought of as a teenager when you're really a mature adult! Adults dont take me seriously at all and it drives me nuts.
It's funny because people always used to take me seriously as a "guy" even when I was younger. I was the sort that somehow got some of my elders to respect me. Now that I'm in the process of transitioning I feel like that's diminishing with time. Not to say I don't get any respect, but more that I feel like I'm treated more like a kid in some ways.
Quote from: learningtolive on March 05, 2014, 12:19:15 PM
It's funny because people always used to take me seriously as a "guy" even when I was younger. I was the sort that somehow got some of my elders to respect me. Now that I'm in the process of transitioning I feel like that's diminishing with time. Not to say I don't get any respect, but more that I feel like I'm treated more like a kid in some ways.
Yes you are at a good age...maybe a little less fortunate now that your female, you still may not get the full respect you deserve but then again your young and have more or less an excuse....you don't know it all yet!! :)
This was the opposite for me! No one ever took me serious, I always felt like a kid amongst men....even if they were younger than I. I think much of this had to do with my disposition and my passive nature. It never bothered me too much since I never had a typical ego like most men.
The irony about this is that I am still perceived like this but its because of my gender...it is frustrating even mores so because of the reason but at least I am not looked down on if I don't know something...its just expected that I am now dumb!! Ya BS!!
At first I did get very frustrated with men not listening or taking me serious.....I have since become more numb to it!!
QuoteAbout the only negative thing of being a women is aging. Women show there age more than men.
Hmmmmm. Really??...
Last time I looked at my girl friends of my age they still had thick hair, soft skin and young faces. Whilst my guy friends (and increasingly myself) have thinning hair, that tired look, coarser skin, etc.
Its in mother nature's best interests to make women look as attractive as possible for as long as possible (for the mating game), whereas with men, it's more important to have the muscles so everything else seems to take a back seat.
A common occurrence with MTF's it tends to be noted, is that the person tends to look younger when taking the HRT, from how they looked as male.
Mind you, I used to think that women aged quicker and with more harmful effects than men, but now I come to think the opposite since researching.
QuoteIt's funny because people always used to take me seriously as a "guy" even when I was younger.
Lol. I've never been taken seriously as a guy. Especially by my guy friends. I've never really had that classic male privilege.
QuoteSocietal wise, men are in a behavioral strait jacket and women are in a body strait jacket.
Very true words, indeed. I feel that is more worthwhile to be female from a physical and social perspective (in this day and age), yet more worthwhile to be a man (just about, though probably not for much longer) financially and because we still live in a patriarchal society.
Quote"To men a man is but a mind. Who cares what face he carries or what he wears? But a woman's body is the woman." Ambrose Bierce
Very sobering quote, that. Ultimately though, its not just society that sees it this way. Nature does too. Hence why nature tends to maximise the prettiness/softness/openess of women's face, while toning much of prettiness.softness/openess for males.
Male faces are meant to indicate "I'm in charge. Fear me. I will hunt and kill. Follow me"
Women faces are meant to indicate "I am caring. Feel safe with me. Desire me."
Thankfully though, we're sentient human beings, so we don't have to fully subscribe to the tyranny of genes and mother nature's plan.