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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: JaimeD on March 07, 2014, 05:56:05 PM

Poll
Question: Is we or ain't we too sensitive?
Option 1: Yes I do think we are. votes: 20
Option 2: No, we aren't too sensitive. votes: 1
Option 3: I find this topic insensitive. votes: 1
Option 4: I don't think you're right in the head... votes: 3
Option 5: meh, I don't really care either way... votes: 4
Title: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: JaimeD on March 07, 2014, 05:56:05 PM
So, what say you?  Do you think we as a group are a bit too sensitive at times when it comes to dealing with the rest of the world?



Me, I'm thinking that at times we are. I don't mean about real hate or slurs and such, but about common sayings, offhand comments that may be uttered without real brain activity backing them up, things like that. Things that people may be used to saying and they may not take a quick survey of their current audience before uttering them.

Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on March 07, 2014, 06:00:31 PM
Do you think we really are as sensitive as comes across on the internet, or do you think we may just be using this as a soundboard to express our dislike of the seemingly small offhand comments that irk us when they pile up one on top of another day after day? 
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on March 07, 2014, 06:03:18 PM
Expressing my dislike of something doesn't mean I can't handle it in the real world, I just think it's important to notice that it's happening and that with talking about it, we can maybe make the world a better place one tiny bit at a time.  I know, quite a laughable goal, but nothing wrong with trying.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Ms Grace on March 07, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on March 07, 2014, 06:03:18 PM
Expressing my dislike of something doesn't mean I can't handle it in the real world, I just think it's important to notice that it's happening and that with talking about it, we can maybe make the world a better place one tiny bit at a time.  I know, quite a laughable goal, but nothing wrong with trying.

Yep, totally agree.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Lizzie on March 07, 2014, 08:29:47 PM
I think everyone is. Most people take things way to seriously or they dig in to try to find some hidden meaning that isn't even there in the first place.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Anatta on March 07, 2014, 08:38:44 PM
Kia Ora,

Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?

Yes...When one takes things personally ie, too seriously, they tend to suffer...And this suffering is self inflicted...


Metta Anatta :)
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Adam (birkin) on March 07, 2014, 08:44:24 PM
I think as a whole transgender people can be excessively sensitive, and I've also been guilty of it. I think it's like Caysee said - things just all pile up and after a while you're like "omg can we please stop." I don't think it helps that we have so many differences within the "community" (that word is unfortunately used very loosely) that lead to in-fights...people just get angry because they feel the other person is a bad representation
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: JenSquid on March 07, 2014, 08:49:09 PM
I have no idea if we are. I just know that I am. I am super-thin skinned.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on March 07, 2014, 08:52:37 PM
This thread has upset me.  Why does everyone have to always criticize how sensitive I am about stuff?  Stop making threads that bother me.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Lizzie on March 07, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
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Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Edge on March 07, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
I agree with Jen. Who is this "we?" We are all individuals with varying degrees of sensitivity.
Personally, that phrase has mostly been directed at me by people who were trying to shame me into not standing up to them and letting them treat me like crap. Does that make me "too sensitive?" Don't know, don't care. I do know what happens if I don't maintain my boundaries and stand up for myself though and it is way worse than being "too sensitive."
That said, I've met a few people where they took things and got messages out of them that don't make a lick of sense to me. Maybe that's being too sensitive. I've always thought of that as more projecting though.
In a nutshell, I don't really care either way.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: timbuck2 on March 07, 2014, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on March 07, 2014, 08:52:37 PM
This thread has upset me.  Why does everyone have to always criticize how sensitive I am about stuff?  Stop making threads that bother me.

See the problem is that many people really do think like this. They take thinks completely to heart instead of using common sense to realize that when most people make blanket statements they're never directed at one person in particular.

Also, this needless sarcasm as a counter to a thread you don't approve doesn't say "I can handle things properly in the real world and I'm just using this forum as a place to vent" it says "I'm passive aggressively trying to derail a conversation I don't approve of instead of simply exiting."
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on March 07, 2014, 09:28:01 PM
You would be right if my post was a counter to a thread I don't approve of.  Take a chill pill lol.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Anatta on March 07, 2014, 09:38:34 PM
Kia Ora,

::) Umm now what was the title of this thread again ? ? ?  :D ;)

Metta Anatta :)
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: MugwortPsychonaut on March 07, 2014, 09:42:20 PM
Me? Totally. Yes. Absolutely. And opinionated, too!
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on March 07, 2014, 09:50:03 PM
I'm really sensitive and....BLUUUURRGGHHHH!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! 1234!!! BLLLLUUURRRGHHH UUURRGHHH!!!!! HBKJBKBKJB!!!! AAAAAAHHHH!!!!

Oh...sorry...been listening to a lot of early A.C. tonight.

Wait...what were we talking about?
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: JenSquid on March 07, 2014, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: Laura Squirrel on March 07, 2014, 09:50:03 PM
Wait...what were we talking about?

Cheese, and how delicious it is.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Hikari on March 07, 2014, 10:44:43 PM
Looks like I am the only no vote, lol I like to err on the side of caution, so it is hard to be too sensitive in a support group.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on March 07, 2014, 10:51:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU0XInvGfnY

:icon_dance: :icon_geekdance: :icon_drunk: :icon_woowoo:



Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Calder Smith on March 07, 2014, 10:55:20 PM
Some people take things to heart, others have thick skin.

That's all that really needs to be said.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: V M on March 07, 2014, 10:56:02 PM
I just make sure folks don't get too crazy with the cheese whiz
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: MugwortPsychonaut on March 07, 2014, 11:22:07 PM
Quote from: Laura Squirrel on March 07, 2014, 09:50:03 PM
Oh...sorry...been listening to a lot of early A.C. tonight.

Ha ha! I like "311 Sucks."
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on March 07, 2014, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: MugwortPsychonaut on March 07, 2014, 11:22:07 PM
Ha ha! I like "311 Sucks."

:icon_drunk:

Right on!

Although, I'm partial to the older stuff like the 7"'s, "Morbid Florist" & "Everyone Should Be Killed".
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: MugwortPsychonaut on March 08, 2014, 12:10:56 AM
I had a chance to see them back in 06, but I didn't go. I even sent Seth a message on Myspace, telling him I'd be there, and he replied!

Alas, my opinion of Seth Putnam plummeted, when I learned that he voted for David Duke.

Still, "Ha Ha, Your Wife Left You," is a classic.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Jamie D on March 08, 2014, 12:37:04 AM
Jaime dearest.  It's the estrogen.  It thins the skin.  :o
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on March 08, 2014, 12:38:49 AM
Quote from: MugwortPsychonaut on March 08, 2014, 12:10:56 AM
I had a chance to see them back in 06, but I didn't go. I even sent Seth a message on Myspace, telling him I'd be there, and he replied!

Alas, my opinion of Seth Putnam plummeted, when I learned that he voted for David Duke.

Still, "Ha Ha, Your Wife Left You," is a classic.

Well, there were a LOT of things that Seth said for shock effect. Honestly, even if he did vote for David Duke, considering what he did at shows, that doesn't mean a lot. I would be more concerned about chairs being whipped in my direction. I was actually going to book AC in my stupid town but it was after AC broke up again in 2003. I didn't know it at the time. I didn't have the net. I just had my old booklet from the "Corporate Death" compilation that had their P.O. Box address inside. I had two shows booked: One at a country bar, they were going to do an unplugged set and another at a blues bar down the road for an electric set. I lied to the bar owners as far as the band name and genre classifications were concerned. It actually worked and I was psyched to see what mayhem I may have caused by doing this. But Seth wrote me back and said they broke up again. I was going to see them on the last tour that they did but my plans fell through at the last minute. Then Seth died a few months later.

It may sound weird, but the day he died, I cried my eyes out. I utterly adored AC (and I still do) and I was crushed that I was never going to have the chance to see them live. Sure, I have a lot of videos (including ultra-rare video of the set that is featured on the A-side of the 'Breaking The Law' 7"), but it's not the same as actually seeing them live. Oh well, that's the way it goes.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: FilaFord on March 08, 2014, 12:56:05 AM
For about 29 years I would say I am not sensitive at all... but lately it seems I am way too sensitive.  I think it's just experiencing feelings for the first time.

I was pretty cold-hearted and even accused of being "soul-less" when I was a young man... :-\
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Adam (birkin) on March 08, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
Quote from: Jamie D on March 08, 2014, 12:37:04 AM
Jaime dearest.  It's the estrogen.  It thins the skin.  :o

OMG HOW DARE YOU. I was on estrogen at one period in my life and no one is about to tell me I had a thin skin!!! I was tough and manly and only shed manly tears made out of steel. I can't believe you'd even say that I mean omg how offensive why don't you just log out of Susan's forever now kthxbye  :police:
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: JaimeD on March 09, 2014, 09:54:02 AM
Ok, who was the wiseass that decided that I wasn't right in the head? 


Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Nero on March 09, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: JaimeD on March 09, 2014, 09:54:02 AM
Ok, who was the wiseass that decided that I wasn't right in the head?

Probably someone who saw the text to the left on your profile.  :laugh:
Wasn't me though. I didn't vote yet.

Yeah, I think we are sometimes too sensitive for our good. When I first came here back in the dark ages, it was a lot easier to craft a post. Everyone knew what you meant and nobody derailed a thread because you didn't use their preferred term for something. Nowadays I've got to write out stuff like 'assigned female at birth' just so no one will freak out if I say 'born female' or something. People get really particular about labels and the definitions of labels and body parts and everything. It's difficult to say anything without offending someone even by using the wrong word.


Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: JaimeD on March 09, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: FA on March 09, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
Probably someone who saw the text to the left on your profile.  :laugh:
Wasn't me though. I didn't vote yet.

Yeah, I think we are sometimes too sensitive for our good. When I first came here back in the dark ages, it was a lot easier to craft a post. Everyone knew what you meant and nobody derailed a thread because you didn't use their preferred term for something. Nowadays I've got to write out stuff like 'assigned female at birth' just so no one will freak out if I say 'born female' or something. People get really particular about labels and the definitions of labels and body parts and everything. It's difficult to say anything without offending someone even by using the wrong word.
What? I am kind of annoying...

And yeah, years ago, we didn't have to tiptoe quite so much and you didn't have to preface an opinion with disclaimers and such like it seems you have to do now. I just think we need to keep our eyes on the big picture more so than the individual pixels.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on March 09, 2014, 03:43:49 PM
Meh...I say what I think.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Nero on March 09, 2014, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: JaimeD on March 09, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
What? I am kind of annoying...

And yeah, years ago, we didn't have to tiptoe quite so much and you didn't have to preface an opinion with disclaimers and such like it seems you have to do now. I just think we need to keep our eyes on the big picture more so than the individual pixels.

No, the other text.  :laugh:
Yeah, those were the days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F9vRVyV914

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on March 09, 2014, 03:43:49 PM
Meh...I say what I think.

We know.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Jamie D on March 09, 2014, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: JaimeD on March 09, 2014, 09:54:02 AM
Ok, who was the wiseass that decided that I wasn't right in the head?

Wiseasses - plural.  There are three of us now!
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: JaimeD on March 09, 2014, 04:55:31 PM
Quote from: FA on March 09, 2014, 04:44:48 PM
No, the other text.  :laugh:
Yeah, those were the days:

*snip video*

I grew up watching that, family affair, brady bunch, and my three sons.

And I adjusted the text to reflect the addition of a pic...


I always thought it was interesting to see someone like Archie Bunker(typical bigot) confronted with various things that were major issues then.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: JaimeD on March 09, 2014, 04:56:27 PM
Quote from: Jamie D on March 09, 2014, 04:52:23 PM
Wiseasses - plural.  There are three of us now!
Help!!! I'm being bullied!!!


:P
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Jason C on March 09, 2014, 06:36:29 PM
I said I don't care either way, haha. I think some people are too sensitive over certain things, BUT I think if something offends you, even something most people think is trivial, it should be seen as valid and it should be respected. So maybe we are, maybe we're not, but it should all be handled the same way.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: V M on March 10, 2014, 05:04:04 AM
Sometimes I think some people are too sensitive, other times I think some people are too insensitive

*Sigh*

Either way it tends to equate to people being overly critical of each other

I often wish that more people would remember that this is a support site and leave the criticizing and one up over you stuff behind and not bring it here

Just some of my thoughts 
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Sephirah on March 10, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
Definitely. I am. But probably not in the way the thread is talking about.
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Jamie D on March 10, 2014, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: JaimeD on March 09, 2014, 04:56:27 PM
Help!!! I'm being bullied!!!


:P

Noogie time!
Title: Re: Are we sometimes too sensitive for our own good?
Post by: Jess42 on March 10, 2014, 03:21:06 PM
Sometimes I think so. Take the word "->-bleeped-<-", that  is what most people hear and identify transgender or transexuality with. It doesn't offend me unless there is malice behind it because most of the people that use the word are usually not part of the LGBT community and are pretty much ignorant as to "our" lingo. Same with the word "->-bleeped-<-", most of the people that use that word are ignorant that we find it insulting and happens to be a reference used by the porn industry. I just wonder how many straight guys know that word from watching the videos? It might be interesting to really get a head count on the numbers, no pun intended. :) Again that word doesn't offend me unless used with malice. Tgirl, another one that doesn't bother me. The  word that I absolutely do hate is "it". When one uses that word it is a conscious action to dehumanize us. All the other words, like I said, are just descriptions by people that have no idea that some of us are offended by them, but "it" makes us more into something than someone.