There are all these threads about what masculine traits you have and the like. I figured just for fun why not do a what "unmanly" traits you have and love about yourself thread. Not necessarily feminine traits, but they could be I suppose.
A little fun to let ourselves out of fitting into the stereotyped box of "Masculinity" we often try to squeeze ourselves into. And another fun chance for a little self love and appreciation - which I'm sure many of us could use more of.
(not that celebrating things that we naturally do that are considered masculine is bad. We are after all transmen for a reason.)
This is one that my SO recently brought up. He called it girly but I don't think of it as such. Anyways, when I go out even just to town, I prefer to have my hair all ready and fixed and I whine when it's messed up.
I think the way I speak is feminine. My mannerisms and whatever, I'm pretty sure they're feminine, and I don't love them, but I don't dislike them either. If I could change it, I wouldn't, because I'm happy with it.
Oh, and whenever I see a dog or a cute animal, I'm practically jumping up and down with joy and speaking to it in a baby voice. Not manly at all :P but I wouldn't change that for anything, haha.
Ive got a few lol
I'm creative, I like knitting and making things, sewing, crafting
I'm pagan, and it seems like there are like 6 or 7 women witches for every 1 male witch, which kinda sucks actually, oh well
I LOVE using home remedies for my "beauty regimen" lol, its just fun doing stuff to make my skin and hair look better
I love kittens/puppies
I'm often complimenting girls (or gay guys) on their fashion decisions
I'm scared of cockroaches, centipedes, spiders, daddy long legs
that's all off the top of my head.
Quote from: Elijah on April 19, 2014, 02:47:15 PM
I'm scared of cockroaches, centipedes, spiders, daddy long legs
THIS.
Too bad my fiancée
adores such creepy crawlies. D8
I guess I could mention my liking for Korean boy groups. After all, a majority of their fans seem to be female and the bands themselves don't always seem to consider they have male fans either.
I actually have a picture folder called "FANGASM" dedicated to Korean guys. |D
I love fashion and floral prints.
I love baby animals of all kinds -- even the "gross" ones.
I smile at strangers and I don't plan on changing.
Quote from: Jason C on April 19, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
Oh, and whenever I see a dog or a cute animal, I'm practically jumping up and down with joy and speaking to it in a baby voice. Not manly at all :P but I wouldn't change that for anything, haha.
That is awesome. I rather like guys who aren't afraid to show they actually like animals, rather than seeing them as a means to an end. Or an annoyance. Or playing it cool. Particularly dogs. I'm a total dog person myself, and any guy who was as enamoured with them as me would already earn several hundred Lauren Points (yes, it's a thing, deal with it, lol).
I'm a pretty fashionable bastard and particular about my clothing & hairstyles, so I'm a bit vain in that category. I like to bake whenever I have the chance. I'm not afraid to cry during movies, but it has to really touch my heart to bring me to tears. I love Animal Crossing.
Other than that, I'm very masculine and always have been. Every man has femininity and every woman has masculinity. ;)
Quote from: Jason C on April 19, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
Oh, and whenever I see a dog or a cute animal, I'm practically jumping up and down with joy and speaking to it in a baby voice. Not manly at all :P but I wouldn't change that for anything, haha.
I actually do jump up and down and have been known to skip when excited. When I see a cute or ugly animal I got all sappy
I rescue animals and currently have 2 cats and 2 dogs, 3 had special needs coming into my house. Men do rescue animals but doing the fostering and serious commitment I do tends to be women
I like to curl up in blankets
I love musical theatre and chatting with old ladies.
If I think something is cute, which is a lot of things, I'm not afraid to make it known. Even in public. And it's a guy I'm yelling at. You'd think I'd be worried about getting beat up. :P
I love miniature things. The tinier and more in proportion, the better.
And dogs. And kittenz.
I jump up and down when I'm excited.
I'm vain and take the time to straighten my hair because, otherwise, it's poofy.
I find guys attractive and have a history of dating mostly guys.
I'm starting to embrace the less masculine aspects of myself. I giggle and am enthusiastically dorky without trying to be macho. I'm vegan and artsy and very open about my feelings. I'm also what I would call a bit "swishy", which is essentially just that I hate hiding my little feminine traits and I'm just letting them go as they will.
Cheers!
Where do I begin?
I love nailvarnish. I love being able to do something with my hair. Lately everyone's noticed its 'boring' - I'm currently growing it so it's not as spectacular as it has been, but it's all part of my master plan for the style I've always wanted - long back, shaved sides, spiked/messy stuck up on top! :D
I love candles and incense. I also have no shame in what I watch - Eg vampire diaries.
Oh, and I love Disney movies and musicals :)
Quote from: Jason C on April 20, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
Oh, and I love Disney movies and musicals :)
Me too!
Cool topic idea! Self love is always good.
Most of my traits would probably be considered "unmanly." At first I scrambled to change them, of course- but I've come to realize that they're part of my personality and who I am, regardless of whether or not they originated from female socialization.
Let's see...
When someone says something surprising, I touch my hand to my chest or my face.
My voice is super high and I have very feminine inflections (examples: raising my voice at the end of a statement of question, slight- emphasis on slight- vocal fry).
Most guys seem to be a bit relatively stoic and laid-back. I tend to be very animated and "bouncy," which is usually associated with femininity.
I hate all things sports- watching, playing. I am one of the most hopelessly unathletic people I know.
Zero knowledge or interest when it comes to most "manly" activities- changing tires, construction, killing bugs, etc.
I like to write and draw.
Unafraid to cry during movies. Or anytime, really (within reason).
I'm attracted to guys. Some people would consider this inherently unmanly.
I second Elijah on using organic home products for a beauty regimen. I'm borderline obsessed with all that.
I'm really into men's fashion and haircare.
I'm a vegan. For some reason eating red meat is seen as "manly."
I get terrified watching, seeing or hearing anything remotely scary (as a kid I had nightmares for weeks after seeing a Scooby Doo Movie). Some might label me a huge sissy.
And I agree, musicals and disney movies are awesome :)
Quote from: Jason C on April 20, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
Oh, and I love Disney movies and musicals :)
That's unmanly?
Oh yeah. I also play with my hair when I'm nervous aka most of the time. I hate that though.
I guess I should chime in.
Just a few off the top of my head....
I LOVE good smelling things. Candles, soap, body spray deodorants/colognes (I don't wear stick deodorant *shudder*)
I know the lyrics to more musicals than my performing arts MFA room mate. He may be able to sing them better than I, but I know all the words. So.. yea.
I love watching Ru Paul's drag race with my room mate. Its the only reality show I'll watch.
Even as a college aged guy I like to keep a clean house. Make my bed every morning ect.
I do love animals, and will grow happy when I pass them. Usually this just involves a smile or a single "hah" and then watching the beasty in wonderment as it goes past. I'm not much of a freak out/giggle at anything type.
I DO NOT understand the draw of watching sports. I mean I guess I get it - somewhat, but those people whose mood through an entire day seems dependent on whether or not their team did well the night/weekend before are really somewhat mentally unstable in my book. Unless they lost good money in the situation.
Quote from: Elijah on April 19, 2014, 02:47:15 PM
I'm pagan, and it seems like there are like 6 or 7 women witches for every 1 male witch, which kinda sucks actually, oh well
If it makes you feel any better I live in a house with 2 male witches (and I suppose I may be borderline a 3rd).
Quote from: Elijah on April 19, 2014, 02:47:15 PM
I'm pagan, and it seems like there are like 6 or 7 women witches for every 1 male witch, which kinda sucks actually, oh well
Most pagans I know are male, but that may be because most pagans I know are Asatru.
Not sure if this counts, but I'm a huge Loki fan who seems to be more popular with women. That said, I've been a fan of Loki (Norse mythology) ever since I was a kid because he reminds me of myself and I'm a fan of the Marvel Loki for similar reasons (although I see them as two separate characters). Most "Loki" fans I meet now are just fans of his attractiveness which kind of pisses me off.
Interesting topic. The catch for me is it has to be "unmanly" traits that I like having and wouldn't change. Even some things I like, I have a "defense" for. Other things, not sure why some people consider it feminine in the first place.
I have decent organizational and housekeeping skills. I don't subscribe to the idea of "women's work" or that men are naturally slobs while women are naturally tidy. There's nothing cool about a grown man having the capacity to do house work but refusing, or never learning how.
I'm good at several crafts. There are other men into the same crafts, but I wonder how many guys are interested but avoid such hobbies because of the "it's for girls" factor.
I enjoy cute things, pretty things, colors, textures, and patterns. I doubt this is rare amongst men, it is just expressed differently due to social expectations. I didn't escape this programming, despite people thinking I was a girl. It shows much more in my hobbies than my clothing.
Emphasis necessary to convey how much I f---ing love tea. Almost any kind of tea. White, green, black, oolong, lapsang souchong, caffeinated, decaffeinated, fruity, herbal, flowery. I try whatever I can get my hands on.
Quote from: Edge on April 20, 2014, 11:09:47 AM
Most "Loki" fans I meet now are just fans of his attractiveness which kind of pisses me off.
Yeah, that is probably very true, and there is probably a huge spike of people recognizing him as their deity after the films came out i'm sure.
Quote from: Elijah on April 20, 2014, 01:37:38 PM
Yeah, that is probably very true, and there is probably a huge spike of people recognizing him as their deity after the films came out i'm sure.
Oh definitely. I have met people who like Loki the Norse god as well though simply because he is usually depicted as a pretty boy.
I sew. I try to anyway. In my defence, the clothing I want to wear is either expensive or doesn't exist yet.
Quote from: MacG on April 19, 2014, 11:59:36 PM
I love miniature things. The tinier and more in proportion, the better.
That's awesome, me too, especially if they are functional as well. I was once given a mini piano keychain that played 5 different keys and it BLEW MY MIND.
I also love animals (seriously, all of them.), cooking, and musicals.
I also use my hands sometimes when I talk, which is either feminine or Italian.
Polo! I was going to add "with moving parts" but thought I was getting too specific with my craze haha!
That tiny piano keychain sounds amazing. I have a tiny harmonica that plays about 8 notes. I'm completely charmed! As a kid (who am I kidding-it's still true) I preferred my matchbox cars with doors and hoods that would open.
I'm going to admit I didn't even read the OP's original message, but I have to say I think binary messages of what gender should be and living up to those expectations, as opposed to just focusing on being yourself and being aesthetically happy within who you are, really hurts ourselves on how we perceive ourselves as human beings. I never sat down and thought about what might be "feminine" and what might be "masculine" for me in terms of it be an anomaly in my identity. However, I know there are so many people who post on here who have. On my stay here, I'm seen myriads of threads involved around the idea of not being "masculine enough". :x
Quote from: supremecatoverlord on April 22, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
I'm going to admit I didn't even read the OP's original message, but I have to say I think binary messages of what gender should be and living up to those expectations, as opposed to just focusing on being yourself and being aesthetically happy within who you are, really hurts ourselves on how we perceive ourselves as human beings. I never sat down and thought about what might be "feminine" and what might be "masculine" for me in terms of it be an anomaly in my identity. However, I know there are so many people who post on here who have. On my stay here, I'm seen myriads of threads involved around the idea of not being "masculine enough". :x
which was exactly the point of this thread. We all know what society generally considers masculine and feminine, and as trans people are probably often in situations where we are analyzing (if only subconsciously) theses behaviors in ourselves. Some reject things they like just because they want to be more masculine or "manly" whatever that is. This thread is for people to appreciate themselves for being themselves despite what society deems masculine or feminine.
To be honest I had to sit back and think about mine. Its not something that I ever really put thought into on my own. It was definitely inspired by all of those threads that you mentioned about masculinity, and masculine attributes we possess/wish we possessed. I've always been pretty content just being myself, and f-ck the rest. Myself just happens to be male-bodied.... and my body didn't happen to come out just exactly that way.
[aaaaaand way to be a douche. At least read the OP before you make judgements or put in your own two cents. Otherwise you're just blindly spewing bull->-bleeped-<- all over the place.]
Quote from: Edge on April 20, 2014, 11:09:47 AM
Most pagans I know are male, but that may be because most pagans I know are Asatru.
Not sure if this counts, but I'm a huge Loki fan who seems to be more popular with women. That said, I've been a fan of Loki (Norse mythology) ever since I was a kid because he reminds me of myself and I'm a fan of the Marvel Loki for similar reasons (although I see them as two separate characters). Most "Loki" fans I meet now are just fans of his attractiveness which kind of pisses me off.
I also think Loki is pretty cool, he is probably one of the most queer as'es in the mythology, even when in some of the quotes I find him alittle annoying like "lokisralla*(not sure how to spell it)"
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unmanly things i love...
*to dance and swing my but and hair around
* to dress up as pretty much anything
* to wear make up or nailpolish or/and tight pants
* to have a earing collection of all kind of wierd earings
I have an internal desire to wear a pink sweatsuit, put on a headband, and flop and prance around to 80's music, though I haven't done this already.
I adore kittens.
I hate spiders. I am terrified of them.
I don't understand American football, and find it boring for the most part.
I have no interest in cars at all. In fact, I hate driving.
I don't like scary things.
On rare occasions when I am in love, I like to do interpretive dance.
I enjoy talking baby talk to my baby nephew and in the past, kittens that I've had and making big googly eyes at them.
Quote from: MacG on April 22, 2014, 02:28:36 PM
Polo! I was going to add "with moving parts" but thought I was getting too specific with my craze haha!
That tiny piano keychain sounds amazing. I have a tiny harmonica that plays about 8 notes. I'm completely charmed! As a kid (who am I kidding-it's still true) I preferred my matchbox cars with doors and hoods that would open.
Hahaha so it's not just me! I loved those and transformers when I was a kid.
Quote from: GnomeKid on April 22, 2014, 04:49:24 PM
which was exactly the point of this thread. We all know what society generally considers masculine and feminine, and as trans people are probably often in situations where we are analyzing (if only subconsciously) theses behaviors in ourselves. Some reject things they like just because they want to be more masculine or "manly" whatever that is. This thread is for people to appreciate themselves for being themselves despite what society deems masculine or feminine.
To be honest I had to sit back and think about mine. Its not something that I ever really put thought into on my own. It was definitely inspired by all of those threads that you mentioned about masculinity, and masculine attributes we possess/wish we possessed. I've always been pretty content just being myself, and f-ck the rest. Myself just happens to be male-bodied.... and my body didn't happen to come out just exactly that way.
[aaaaaand way to be a douche. At least read the OP before you make judgements or put in your own two cents. Otherwise you're just blindly spewing bull->-bleeped-<- all over the place.]
I would've probably responded the same way had I read your original post, because I did. My main problem lies within in the title as it almost seems to insinuate being more feminine should be seen as something typically undesirable and triggering. I honestly wish more people were less concerned and/or able to weed out what's feminine or masculine. I'm a grounded human being who happened to transition so I could be aesthetically happy with myself, but not because I was trying to fit into a role. It was entirely for me. There's a lot of people I've seen on here who aren't that way, who are really ambivalent in transition, and actually think these things should factor into whether they're a man or not. If it didn't happen and people weren't so callow, I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow or two. But it does...actually, all of the time on here, which is part of the reason I rarely post here anymore, honestly.
I think it's interesting to think about. And I don't think the title of this post indicates negativity. I've never been one to corner myself into a gender box. But starting the medical part oft transition has stirred up more thoughts about what I think about myself.
I think it's fantastic for anybody to have "unmanly" traits, and particularly great for ftm people to be able to freely discuss.
Quote from: MacG on April 22, 2014, 10:53:42 PM
I think it's interesting to think about. And I don't think the title of this post indicates negativity. I've never been one to corner myself into a gender box. But starting the medical part oft transition has stirred up more thoughts about what I think about myself.
I think it's fantastic for anybody to have "unmanly" traits, and particularly great for ftm people to be able to freely discuss.
But why do traits have to be "manly" or "unmanly", other than a habitual semi-archaic social construct? I'm assuming you haven't seen the posts on here from people who really get tangled up in this stuff and think they can't transition because people tell them that they're not "man enough". There's a point behind what I'm saying. I get the OP wasn't meaning to be offensive. It's great to like things about yourself, but as long as you have a grounded sense of identity, why do you have to sort all of your traits into gender stereotypes? Just be you.
I don't think anyone here has said anything (at least not that I've read in this thread) about any of these traits affecting whether or not we transition either way, so I'm not sure where you got that. Neither has anyone said anything about being anyone other than ourselves (again, at least not that I've read in this thread). Personally, I interpreted the quotation marks around "unmanly" to show that these traits aren't actually unmanly.
The truth is that, no matter how much some of us want these categories to be gone, there is a lot of social pressure to fit into them and we're as affected by social pressure as anyone else. For example, I have some internalized homophobia because people keep perpetuating a stereotype about queer men that I don't want to be. I know it's ridiculous and not true, but it still affects me. It helps to be reminded that it's ok to be who we are.
I hope I'm coherent. I should probably get some sleep.
I took the quotation marks in the title to mean something like "traditionally defined as unmanly."
I certainly don't think of myself as an assortment of man things and woman things or whatever.
But there are things I am interested in that society *does* assign to be, well, unmanly. I don't agree things should be divvied up into two. I don't even think gender should be divvied up. I don't think anything should be considered the domain of one gender over another. I think it's a big fuzzy ball, not an either/or.
And I am definitely not a subscriber to the idea of "man enough." Or trans enough. Or anything enough.
I suppose mine would be, hmm...
I like to sew, a lot. I make a lot of my own clothes, and I like to design clothes (When I think about it, a lot of the top clothing designers in the world are men, not sure if that counts :P)
I love musicals, and I'm a sucker for Disney songs.
When I am in a good mood and a song pops up in my head, I will randomly start singing it without really noticing myself.
I love music in general, listening, playing the Ukulele or singing.
I think I read somewhere above, talking to old lady's. I do that a lot myself. Actually, a few of my friends are in their 50's and we sometimes get together over coffee and talk.
I have a sweet tooth.
Most people that describe me ether use the word cute or adorable because of how I talk, and such.
I'm a super dork, and a huge comic and a manga nerd.
And oh! A huge Loki fan... It has actually begun to scare me how much of a fan I have become xD
I will jump up and down and get excited, mostly when I see dogs x3
Quote from: MacG on April 23, 2014, 12:18:26 AM
I took the quotation marks in the title to mean something like "traditionally defined as unmanly."
I certainly don't think of myself as an assortment of man things and woman things or whatever.
But there are things I am interested in that society *does* assign to be, well, unmanly. I don't agree things should be divvied up into two. I don't even think gender should be divvied up. I don't think anything should be considered the domain of one gender over another. I think it's a big fuzzy ball, not an either/or.
And I am definitely not a subscriber to the idea of "man enough." Or trans enough. Or anything enough.
The whole point I was making is that there have been people literally too wrapped up in what society might think of them to the degree of asking us to define whether they are trans* or not, giving a list of characteristic traits. I'm aware that these things exist, but I'm also aware they don't matter, especially in terms of individual happiness.
Quote from: supremecatoverlord on April 23, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
The whole point I was making is that there have been people literally too wrapped up in what society might think of them to the degree of asking us to define whether they are trans* or not, giving a list of characteristic traits. I'm aware that these things exist, but I'm also aware they don't matter, especially in terms of individual happiness.
Which is exactly what this entire thread has been saying...
Quote from: Edge on April 23, 2014, 07:35:57 AM
Which is exactly what this entire thread has been saying...
By way of enforcing gender based association and stereotypes, not really. I'm honestly just playing Devil's Advocate by this point and nothing more to be honest. It's good that everyone who has posted here thus far sees these traits as integral to who they are, but also trivial to their transition, but yet again, I've seen plenty of people post on this forum who wouldn't...and that in itself is unfortunate.
It is. Especially when we get threads of people asking if they're really trans because they're worried about arbitrary traits and they get told they're probably non-binary or when threads turn into pissing contests with a couple guys insisting that they never did anything remotely considered feminine ever. Personally, I hate the either/or thing, but I usually encounter that everywhere.
I kind of had a hard time replying to this thread because I feel a lot like supremecatoverlord. I can't really classify parts of myself as masculine or feminine, although I am sure others would. I mean, for example, I am quiet and sometimes timid. That's definitely not considered manly, but would it be considered feminine when you consider the vast number of boys and men who are shy, perhaps intellectually inclined rather than physically inclined, etc?
edit: though the fact that some behaviours are unclassifiable wasn't my point...it was a tangent lol. I'm just saying even if I wanted to it's not all cut and dry. I don't really think too much about it because I'd drive myself nuts, I just accept all parts of myself entirely.
Lucky. Ever since I came out as trans, I've consistently had people laser focus on my "effeminate" traits and use that as an excuse to treat me either as if I'm "really a woman" and/or as if I'm not masculine. It's gotten the point where I can't ignore it no matter how much I try.
Quote from: supremecatoverlord on April 23, 2014, 07:47:16 AM
By way of enforcing gender based association and stereotypes, not really. I'm honestly just playing Devil's Advocate by this point and nothing more to be honest. It's good that everyone who has posted here thus far sees these traits as integral to who they are, but also trivial to their transition, but yet again, I've seen plenty of people post on this forum who wouldn't...and that in itself is unfortunate.
I totally understand and appreciate your point. I, myself, have been known to play devil's advocate from time to time. My point was not to reinforce gender stereotypes which is why it is labeled "'Umanly' traits" as opposed to feminine traits. I agree that gendering traits is bull->-bleeped-<-, but its silly to say that you don't know what society considers as a masculine and feminine traits. Not that we need to reinforce those societal notions, but this thread does not stand alone. It was in response to other threads touting the superiority of traits society assumes are masculine. Here is a thread just attempting to get people to appreciate all parts of themselves - even those not considered masculine from the stereotypical standpoint of society - something we're all members of whether we like it or not.
In fact, the point that you've seen many people in this forum who wouldn't see these traits as being acceptable in themselves even brings further purpose to this thread. Here are a bunch of guys saying that they can accept themselves. Maybe others will follow suit?
Anywho... I'm pretty much done arguing this point. Frankly, I' didn't start this thread to start an argument about the existence, or evil, of gender stereotypes, and I don't have time to worry about someone online (or offline really..) being upset over the existence of gender stereotypes. They're out there. You don't have to like them. Frankly, I don't even like them, but they're there.
Quote from: birkin on April 23, 2014, 12:01:21 PM
I kind of had a hard time replying to this thread because I feel a lot like supremecatoverlord. I can't really classify parts of myself as masculine or feminine, although I am sure others would. I mean, for example, I am quiet and sometimes timid. That's definitely not considered manly, but would it be considered feminine when you consider the vast number of boys and men who are shy, perhaps intellectually inclined rather than physically inclined, etc?
edit: though the fact that some behaviours are unclassifiable wasn't my point...it was a tangent lol. I'm just saying even if I wanted to it's not all cut and dry. I don't really think too much about it because I'd drive myself nuts, I just accept all parts of myself entirely.
Yea, I agree. Many traits are unclassifiable. As time goes by, hopefully more will become so.
I think you're strategy is best really. Just accept yourself as you are.
I love musicals and disney songs. I will be rollin in my truck blasting "Let it go" LOL Not very manly.
Dev
- I'm a shy, easy-going person. Not exactly "tough" or "dominant".
- I like listening to female artist such as Aaliyah, Amy Winehouse, Iggy Azalea, etc.
- I don't kill bugs. I usually catch them and take them outside.
- I sleep with a night light.
- I love animals. All animals.
- I have a sort attention span when it comes ti watching American football on ESPN.
- I know how to knit.
- I love musicals!
Quote from: GnomeKid on April 23, 2014, 05:14:04 PM
In fact, the point that you've seen many people in this forum who wouldn't see these traits as being acceptable in themselves even brings further purpose to this thread. Here are a bunch of guys saying that they can accept themselves. Maybe others will follow suit?
I probably would have transitioned earlier in life if I had been able to let go of the idea that you have to be a certain way to be a man. I have been letting go of that and this thread definitely helped me. Like others, I saw the "unmanly" in quotes and did not take it as reinforcing gender stereotypes.
I love crafts and working with my hands, although it encompasses anything from crotchet and sewing to carpentry and working on cars. I've gotten some strange looks and a few sexist comments at work when I borrow some yarn and a crotchet hook from a coworker because I'm bored. It doesn't help she's obsessed with rainbow stuff. 'You knit???' said in a tone of voice that means 'you're a dude, are you THAT gay?!' Yes. I guess I am if that's how you think.
Kittens make me cry with joy. Just the sheer cuteness will make tears roll down my cheeks. Puppies are gross. Give me an adult dog any day.
What does knitting have to do with being gay?
It's sexism, Edge. Clearly MEN don't make rainbow scarves. That's what women do when they get together and gossip and watch Days of Our Lives. Only those weird gays do female stuff because they're confused. Women fixing cars? WTF? Men baking muffins? WTH?
my interests are the only non manly things I like about myself I like rom coms, art, and musical theater. Which aren't generally deemed manly interests. I'm also into fashion, mens fashion, but still not super manly.
Quote from: randomroads on April 26, 2014, 10:10:09 PM
It's sexism, Edge. Clearly MEN don't make rainbow scarves. That's what women do when they get together and gossip and watch Days of Our Lives. Only those weird gays do female stuff because they're confused. Women fixing cars? WTF? Men baking muffins? WTH?
Ha! Wonder what they'd make of the old song, "Do you know the muffin
man". Unless "lives on Drury Lane" was a bizarre euphemism, the lyrics say nothing to imply his occupation is unusual.
I shave under my arms cause I hate armpit hair, even on cis guys lol and I don't like the uni brow thing, so I usually go and have that taken care of
Quote from: Edge on April 20, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
That's unmanly?
Oh yeah. I also play with my hair when I'm nervous aka most of the time. I hate that though.
Stereotypically, sure. I mean, if we cast aside stereotypes or general expectations, nothing is manly or unmanly, of course.
I often do crafting and things. im also an artist.
I also get giddy over fictional characters. usually male.
I'm not a gay man, i just find characters that kind of reflect the sort of man i would like to be someday XD
i wear pink pajama bottoms with bunnies on them. I like cute sh*t really. if you show me pictures of puppies and hamsters and pink things i will go dawww audibly.
do i think these things make me less of a man, pff no, at this point im pretty comfortable with who i am some pink sh*t and girly things aren't gonna change that i like men or i am actually girl, screw that.