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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: Greeneyedrebel on May 20, 2014, 03:10:19 PM

Title: Finasteride....
Post by: Greeneyedrebel on May 20, 2014, 03:10:19 PM
While looking for something else, I happened to see that Finasteride 5mg is now listed on the $4 prescription list for Wal Mart....30 day supply.

Posting this because I think I remember seeing a couple of guys mentioning using it or considering it.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Jill F on May 20, 2014, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: Greeneyedrebel on May 20, 2014, 03:10:19 PM
While looking for something else, I happened to see that Finasteride 5mg is now listed on the $4 prescription list for Wal Mart....30 day supply.

Posting this because I think I remember seeing a couple of guys mentioning using it or considering it.

That's very cheap, especially since that is the 5mg dose, intended for prostate problems.  1mg is normally prescribed for hair loss.  Cut that into quarters and it's practically free.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Tysilio on May 20, 2014, 05:31:06 PM
Now, if only I hadn't made that lifetime vow never to step foot in a Walmart...
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: makipu on May 20, 2014, 05:42:16 PM
I actually was considering this very medication due to the fact that I don't want hair loss and facial hair. When I asked my doctor about this, they told me that only mtfs take it so they didn't really know how it would affect me. Any ftms here used this?
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Greeneyedrebel on May 21, 2014, 07:25:28 AM
Quote from: Tysilio on May 20, 2014, 05:31:06 PM
Now, if only I hadn't made that lifetime vow never to step foot in a Walmart...

Perhaps check the Rite Aid/CVS/Walgrees $4 lists?
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: ErinWDK on May 21, 2014, 07:39:09 AM
Quote from: Greeneyedrebel on May 21, 2014, 07:25:28 AM
Perhaps check the Rite Aid/CVS/Walgrees $4 lists?

The last coupon I found for this from Rite Aid was $44.83 for a 30 day supply - that still  beats the "regular" price.

Now, Do I violate my priciples and go to the Walmart Pharmacy?  Forty bucks and change, forty bucks and change...
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Greeneyedrebel on May 21, 2014, 10:03:15 AM
From what Jill F said, if you are on the 1mg dose you could cut those 5mg tablets up and save a lot more than $40 and change........
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: dalebert on May 21, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: makipu on May 20, 2014, 05:42:16 PMAny ftms here used this?

I'm cis and I use it. I have heard of FTMs being prescribed it. I've heard it may suppress some of the hormones affecting increased body hair so if that's something important to you (more important than keeping your head hair) then you may want to ask your doctor about that.

BTW, I've been chastised and had my posts removed by mods before for talking about specific dosage of this even though it appears to be handled very differently from hormonal supplements, i.e. the dosage seems consistent for hair loss. You may want to preemptively remove dosage information from your posts. The basic idea of cutting larger dose tablets into smaller doses to save money is a good idea though and I have been able to get several different doctors to prescribe the larger dose for me with the understanding that I would be doing that. DO NOT take a larger dose than what your doctor recommends. It doesn't work any better that way and can actually start having negative side-effects that are otherwise very rare on the recommended dose.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: makipu on May 21, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Thank you for the info Dalebert. For me, even though I hate facial hair so much, if I am to compare it's not as important as keeping my head hair. I was looking more into it and I am going to try to get it prescribed. However, I just read that  there is a 'breast tissue tenderness or enlargement' as one of its side effects!
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Jill F on May 21, 2014, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: makipu on May 21, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Thank you for the info Dalebert. For me, even though I hate facial hair so much, if I am to compare it's not as important as keeping my head hair. I was looking more into it and I am going to try to get it prescribed. However, I just read that  there is a 'breast tissue tenderness or enlargement' as one of its side effects!

Oh, if only...
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Nygeel on May 21, 2014, 04:23:36 PM
I'm seeing $9 at walmart with discount for a 30 day supply of 5mg tablets. The 1mg tablets are anywhere between $30-$60. There's a few websites out there for pharmacies to do some comparison shopping.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: jebee on May 21, 2014, 04:43:02 PM
Cost more than that on the NHS :)
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Allyda on May 22, 2014, 12:38:39 PM
Finasteride is an AA (Anti Androgen), and will block some forms of DHT, the main masculinization hormone. T is not the main hormone for masculinization, and that it is is a common misconception. T is converted into DHT by the body. The more T, the more DHT. I strongly recommend you seek your Endo, or Doctor's advice before taking this medicine if your FTM, as you could sabotage your hrt to some extent. And yes, breast tenderness/enlargement is one possible side effect of this medicine. Also, Finasteride won't prevent facial hair from forming.

Hope this helps.

Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Apples Mk.II on May 22, 2014, 01:29:11 PM
As far as I know, some people buy the cheaper 5mg pills, meant for prostate hyperplasia (Proscar), and cut it on 1MG dosages to make it last longer.

Here Finasteride is incredibly expensive since only the one manufactured by a major brand is sold (no generics), being 50€ per month. Oddly my Dutasterida from pfizer comes at 33€...


BTW, some people report differences with some finasteride generics, specially with Finnpecia, claiming it changes a lot the texture and look of the hair for the worse.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: BORNTOFLY on May 22, 2014, 06:48:30 PM
I hope this isnt off topic but I wonder if men's Rogaine 5% has a similiar effectiveness for minimizing hair loss as Finasteride. Would be curious :)
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: dalebert on May 22, 2014, 06:58:28 PM
They work in two completely different ways. Rogaine increases blood flow in the area applied helping the hair follicles to thrive and maybe grow thicker hairs. One could potentially benefit from both. Rogaine is a lot more tedious, IMHO. You have to apply it twice a day, every day. The effects go away when you stop.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Hikari on May 22, 2014, 08:08:05 PM
In my experience Dutasteride is more effective, but that is an exceptional price, which makes me almost consider switching. Since I am MTF though, I am worried about blocking as much DHT as possible, and I would imagine FTMs would want to strike a balance between blocking DHT for hairline reasons and having DHT for it's masculinizing traits. I would think this would mean cutting up Proscar to Propecia doses, and I wonder how doctors would feel about prescribing Proscar to have you cut it to make it cheaper.

Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Apples Mk.II on May 23, 2014, 02:39:43 AM
Quote from: dalebert on May 22, 2014, 06:58:28 PM
They work in two completely different ways. Rogaine increases blood flow in the area applied helping the hair follicles to thrive and maybe grow thicker hairs. One could potentially benefit from both. Rogaine is a lot more tedious, IMHO. You have to apply it twice a day, every day. The effects go away when you stop.

Agreed. And if you are not a frequent hair washer, it is going to look and feel really bad at the fourth day (I was a daily washer, but now I don't have that much grease and sebum).

The thing about people recommending taking the "Big Three"  (finas/dutas, minox, ketoconazole shampoo) at the same time, is that even if you stimulate growth with minoxidil / rogaine, it won't be worth if in the end the DHT keeps damaging the follicles.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Junebug on May 23, 2014, 07:21:30 AM
Unfortunately I had to stop taking Fina after 3 days.  The side effects were too brutal for me.  I had the worst testicular pain ever and just couldn't handle it anymore.  What a waste of $40.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: makipu on May 23, 2014, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: Allyda on May 22, 2014, 12:38:39 PM
Also, Finasteride won't prevent facial hair from forming.


Ally :icon_flower:


If that's the case then there is no hope for me to prevent facial hair?  I was looking at the information that someone else posted in another thread regarding this medication and it says  it may at least prevent new facial hair from forming. This was the page:

http://americantransman.com/2010/04/12/beards-baldness-and-whats-in-your-pants/

Also, how soon is ok to start it? I've been on T for almost 3 months (After stopping a bit)
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: dalebert on May 23, 2014, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: makipu on May 23, 2014, 09:58:58 AM
Also, how soon is ok to start it? I've been on T for almost 3 months (After stopping a bit)

I have my notions, but I'm a layman. I strongly encourage you to talk to your doctor.

Quote from: Hikari on May 22, 2014, 08:08:05 PM
I wonder how doctors would feel about prescribing Proscar to have you cut it to make it cheaper.

I may have said before, but I've had mutliple doctors (about 4?) who were all fine with giving me a prescription for the larger dose with the plan to cut it into smaller doses in order to save money. The first doctor who suggested this merely made a point to emphasize how important it was that I take the prescribed dosage. He only prescribed enough for me to do so and said he would not renew my prescription if I didn't follow his instructions.
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: Allyda on May 23, 2014, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: makipu on May 23, 2014, 09:58:58 AM
If that's the case then there is no hope for me to prevent facial hair?  I was looking at the information that someone else posted in another thread regarding this medication and it says  it may at least prevent new facial hair from forming. This was the page:

http://americantransman.com/2010/04/12/beards-baldness-and-whats-in-your-pants/

Also, how soon is ok to start it? I've been on T for almost 3 months (After stopping a bit)
As for your link? not everything you read on the internet is true. As for how soon is it safe to start it? I'm not a doctor nor medical professional, but I have done considerable research regarding hrt for MTF's such as myself. However, because you are FTM, and knowing the side affects of this medication might not be favorable to you, you really need to speak with your Primary Care Doctor, or, your Endo if you have one regarding this question. Due to the nature of this medication I wouldn't feel right even giving an opinion on this especially to a FTM. Please, ask your Doctor before starting this medicine. I'm really sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Best wishes!

Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Finasteride....
Post by: sp2000 on December 15, 2014, 09:12:29 PM
Quote from: Junebug on May 23, 2014, 07:21:30 AM
Unfortunately I had to stop taking Fina after 3 days.  The side effects were too brutal for me.  I had the worst testicular pain ever and just couldn't handle it anymore.  What a waste of $40.
I know this is an old thread but still I want to ask
what if FTM doesn not have ovaries (removed after operation) will still have sides from Fin?