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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: Satinjoy on June 03, 2014, 09:55:44 AM

Title: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: Satinjoy on June 03, 2014, 09:55:44 AM
Can anyone PM me with a place to buy endo prescribed estradiol valerate cheap here in the States?  They are going injections, insurance said when asked about gender dysphoria coverage and EV injections and I quote " we aren't going to cover injections for a guy that wants to run around in a skirt".   #$%^&*( idiots.

I need a way to get this stuff at less than full price.  Any hints, suggestions about subsidies, suggestions about auxiliary insurance, would be helpful at this point, to get the cost down.  Otherwise I'll head for the mainstream pharmacies in town and eat the cost.

Thank You.  Watch out for the Susan's rules please, don't cross the line there.  This is an insurance issue and also blatant ignorance and prejudice that is unforgiveable.  The quote was 3rd party, what my agent said that insurance told him.  I would have exploded.  He - the agent - was deeply offended and pissed.

Thanks.

DONT BREAK THE SUSANS RULES ON THIS ONE PLEASE.  Moderators feel free to edit as needed.

Prescription, endo required meds here.... NOT self medication or physician steering.  My serums were horrible.  Injections cost a fortune.  I'm going to pay for it, to hl....!!  with the insurance companies telling me what is healthy and contradicting my endocrinologist.

F@#$%^ g ba@#$%^&td's.

Thank you.  God forgive the venting.
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: ErinWDK on June 03, 2014, 10:02:42 AM
Before you walk into a main stream pharmacy with a prescription that your insurance will not cover you need to do a little rooting about in the Internet.  I have used a site GoodRX.com to get coupons for stuff my insurance will not cover.  That cut the price about in half.  These things are still expensive, but half is better than the full nonsense price.

I could rant about medication expenses, but you don't need that.

Good luck!


Erin
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: ErinWDK on June 03, 2014, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: CandiceSkirvin on June 03, 2014, 10:05:20 AM
Ask for a prescription for estradiol which is typically on generics lists at most chain pharmacies and available for cheap.  Why the push for the IM route?  Estradiol, dissolved sublingually, should be just as effective, at least according to what I've learned so far in my schooling.

Satinjoy has a prescription, so that is what she is shopping for.  She is a bit older, like me, and her doctor may be avoiding oral/sub-lingual to prevent some of the deep vein thrombosis issues that come with oral E for us older girls.

The issue here is cost, not medication selection.


Erin
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: Cindy on June 03, 2014, 10:15:58 AM
You are not breaking any rules Hon.

But thanks for your concerns and warnings.

I'm not in the USA so can't help.

Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: Cindy Stephens on June 03, 2014, 11:08:26 AM
have you checked out stroeheckers compounding in Portland?  I get there and have it shipped to Florida.  they are online, legal.  The Estradiol is quite inexpensive and comes with the syringes and needles. but make sure you ask for them.
When I first started injections over the patch I went to an eckards (new CVS) and couldn't believe how expensive it was there.
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: Satinjoy on June 03, 2014, 11:47:01 AM
I will check the coupons and the Portland tips for sure, and whatever else we post here.  The CVS quote was what floored me.

No Candice, they are 95% odds to take me off estrodial pills today, I am at max dose and my serum level 27 hours after the last dose was at 36.5.  My T was at 35.  Not cool.  On sublingual, it still tanks, but it does it 3 times a day after knocking my socks off an hour after intake, and that flux got to be too much.

I am amused by Erin picking up on the age and liver/clotting/thrombosis issue, that means she must have seen other posts, and am greatful for the encouragement by Cindy too.

Actually, I am only one year old... at least, my new body is.... ;).

Even with the low levels I still have A's and distribution into places where things belong.

Love to all.

My goodness I got mad.  I was seeing pink all morning...  really got mad.  Big time mad.

I'm still mad.  Nails out, hair down, ready to rip.
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: Satinjoy on June 03, 2014, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: Cindy Stephens on June 03, 2014, 11:08:26 AM
have you checked out stroeheckers compounding in Portland?  I get there and have it shipped to Florida.  they are online, legal.  The Estradiol is quite inexpensive and comes with the syringes and needles. but make sure you ask for them.
When I first started injections over the patch I went to an eckards (new CVS) and couldn't believe how expensive it was there.

These folks in Portland are a home run, I called, they are perfect for ALL of us

Many many thanks for this contact Cindy.  Be funny if we have the same endo, we might....
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: PrincessDayna on June 03, 2014, 06:18:56 PM
Have the doctor inform the pharmacy it is "medically nessecary"- insurance can no longer refuse to cover your medication without a lawsuit for rejecting nessecary coverage as well as discriminatory language.
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: antonia on June 03, 2014, 07:45:39 PM
Can't really say for the US but here in Canada the cheapest place I found for my meds was the Costco pharmacy, might be worth checking out.
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 03, 2014, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: Satinjoy on June 03, 2014, 11:47:01 AM
Actually, I am only one year old...
Edited for age! *giggle* ;D
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: Satinjoy on June 03, 2014, 08:02:44 PM
Too funny Jessica

Ordered it already, 55 bucks, not bad.  But I wont say dosage or how much for this starter.

More bloods in a few weeks.

Insurance would have been similar if I had one to this wholesale figure.  Already went down the fight road anonymously using the agent, they'd insist on the pills and the roller coaster ride, they refuse to cover gender dysphoria without proof that it has a physical origin.

My suggestion?   Dunno but would be nice if they accentally got a whif of DES and grew boobs that they cant handle, but we love.

Vent vent bi...h b..tch. 

I am ok at this point with it all.

And I am ONE year old.... really I am.... please?

lol

Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: LordKAT on June 04, 2014, 02:24:07 AM
Quote from: PrincessDayna on June 03, 2014, 06:18:56 PM
Have the doctor inform the pharmacy it is "medically nessecary"- insurance can no longer refuse to cover your medication without a lawsuit for rejecting nessecary coverage as well as discriminatory language.

This isn't true in all states.
Title: Re: Sourcing estradiol valerate injections (Endo prescribed) due to insurance reject
Post by: Satinjoy on June 04, 2014, 08:03:56 AM
Correct, I am in FL and was told I would have to prove an intersex condition with a requirement for injected estodial.  Since they are picking up the tab for spiro and finesteride, I am keeping my mouth shut, the spiro would wipe me out if not covered.

Many thanks to all.

I hope this works.  Odd that all heck is breaking loose around me at the same time, too much stress.  Crazy stuff.