are we being honest with our attractability?
Sorry I don't quite get the question? :-\
Hi Evelyn. It's nice to see you back.
I'm not sure that I understand the question. Are you asking if trans women are allowing themselves to be attracted to others? I think it's kind of a condition of womanhood generally that there will always be men attracted to us that we don't want to have anything to do with. To be honest with our attractability, in my humble opinion, is to allow ourselves to be attracted only by those to whom we wish to be attracted. Isn't it?
I mean, wouldn't a transwoman receive much more attention in gay clubs and venues vs hetero? How attractive are we really to cis men in comparison?
Which validates us as being attractive more?
Hmm, I've gotten hit on numerous times at gay bars and such, there tend to be two "types" that tend to offer me drinks, etc.
1. Gay guys that try to tell me that I must be a pretty boy and then try there best to convince me to take off my wig (I'm still growing my hair out).
2. Guys that are interested in me as I present, I'm not entirely sure what their thought process is but it's definitely not the same as the first type, probably they are pan-sexual.
In any case I don't let it go to my head or fool myself, I'm in the village in a gay bar but then again you can be attractive even if you don't present as a cis woman so I don't feel bad about it either.
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 12:26:00 AM
Which validates us as being attractive more?
I don't think this can really be answered. :)
i pretty much get hit on every day, every second, and i even feel like i'm being watched o.o going to pride so this might actually be hell lol
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 09, 2014, 12:27:43 AM
I don't think this can really be answered. :)
That is a tough one right?
If I saw someone say, "I get hit on by men everywhere" I can't help but wonder what circles that person is hanging around in to receive that kind of attention.
I don't know, it strikes me as odd, as if there's more likely a different explanation.
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 12:32:23 AM
If I saw someone say, "I get hit on my men everywhere" I can't help but wonder what circles that person is hanging around in to receive that kind of attention.
Could just be a load of bull from them. Men pay me some attention, but I don't poll to see if they are gay or straight myself. I don't get "hit" on so to say, but I have been winked at, some men drive beside me a while on the highway or miss a light to set beside me. :-\
(not meaning to derail my own thread) ...but Jessica, I would hit on you too. ;D
I spend a lot of time around gay areas. And honesty I don't get hit on by gay men. Lesbians yes gay men no. Unless you count that one guy who danced with me. But I don't know if that counts it was ladies night at a gay bar and he was one of the few men there he was just looking for someone to dance with. But it was obvious he wasn't into me. :laugh:
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 12:38:53 AM
Jessica, I would hit on you too. ;D
The camera lies sweetie! Lies I tell you! ;D
PS-I paid it well though. ::)
I honestly really don't know. I'm a big flirt though and just love chatting with people so if they hit on me I might not notice it in that moment until after the convo is over. I'm a bit of ditz sometimes. I do get "hit on" by both genders a lot though. My best friend whose a guy flirts with me now which kind of gets weird lololol But we're both big flirts so it just happens naturally and I didn't realize this was happening till the other day
I just spent all day at the L.A. Pride event. I got zero attention from the gay guys and maybe a few interested glances from the ladies. I wasn't there to try to meet anyone so I really didn't care if anyone showed interest or not.
Hmm, I think it has a lot to do with the vibe you put out too. I, for one, despise being hit on. It makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable and weird. And honestly? I don't think I've been hit on in years, unless I'm being completely oblivious to it.. and I live in a college campus area, but I pretty much stay in the background :) and I don't go to dancey places or anything. So I just assume I'm giving off that face that says 'not interested!'. But it could also be the fact that Handy and I are always together :p clearly taken and happy! But yeah, even before (though my last experience of being single was in 9th grade haha) people never hit on me, and it's not like I'm uggos or anything, I'm quite pleased with how I look, I just don't like being looked at in an oogly way. Perhaps this has something to do with the kinds of people you're attracting? I wouldn't know how to change it, perhaps be less receptive when you get unwanted attention?
well, I never go to "gay venues" or areas. I work, shop, and come home, pretty much. But I do get flirted with by male customers more and more lately, and get the eye from some male drivers at traffic lights.
I dunno....I don't think I'm bad looking these days. I get a lot of compliments. It is kind of a double edged sword....I know that I will probably look a lot better in another year after HRT has made more progress, and maybe some light FFS. But at the same time it's kind of depressing because I would really love to date....but I refuse to do so until I am "whole" (after SRS and healing).
Gay men love me for some odd reason. I use to get freaked out by it but I am not fussed these days as I just set them straight and we move on. In the end I like women and I find it easy to be around them more than men. When I was in my early twenties I was called pretty boy none stop which made me feel uneasy and withdrawn, although I am a old maid just having hit my 30s so I get left alone now -whew-.
Well, when I talk about it keep in mind I come from an area of the country (and time) where homosexuality is rather taboo and predominately suppressed so it seems rare, so my experience is when a gay guy (out or not) saw another "gay male" (assumed gay because of my not very well disguised feminine behaviours) they would jump at the chance to flirt. Not sure if they where attracted or just had a moment of freedom and would seize it not knowing when theyd next get another shot. So yeah, I wouldn't say I was more attractive to gay men than cis males, but for not being attracted to men I sure as hell got hit on by guys more than I expect straight cis males do growing up.
You're making an assumption that all transwomen somehow look like men, which isn't true. Why wouldn't some trans women be hit on a lot. I get hit on, or just commented at, not all the time, but enough to notice, and hit happens to all women. So why not me? I'm small, cute, and don't look like a man, so...why would it only be gay guys. Gay guys have never like me cause I'm to feminine. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
I haven't got hit on although I only go to Starbucks , but I do get a lot of looks . This one gentleman was sitting with his college age daughter yesterday at Panera Bread across the room and kept looking at me. It's fun when the college guys glance at your breasts . Guys will hit on woman it's their nature. Of course I could be misunderstanding the question . I haven't gone to a gay bar as myself , but as a guy I use to get hit on all the time.
Haven't been hit on offline since September, and that was two gay guys (who said my being trans was ruining the gay image, dunno where he got that from, I'm in no way a gay man) so that bothered me.
Most of the time I don't get hit on, usually people (probably drunk) say insulting things rather than hit on me, even all dolled up with makeup and everything (although last time I was sweaty from playing football, that may have made a difference)
Pretty much never get hit on by gay guys regardless of how I present.
I know cis girls who get hit on by "normal" dudes all the time,like literally every single day...
I think I get the question,
in some cases that kind of attention is different when it comes to trans girls
mainly cause some are getting hit on by gay guys or ->-bleeped-<-s and confuse it for "normal" hitting on thinking that they are attractive as cis?
eeeer is that what you re trying to say? if I even made any sense...
I had guys hitting on me and it was quite obvious that I was passing as cis to them, but personally instead of thinking im attractive I get more insecure...
Wait, Im a bit confused.
Do you mean.
That, If we frequent gay Ville and receive a lot of attention, and mention it. (ohhhh)
Ok I get you (I Think), your thoughts are along the lines of, If its male attention is gay ville, its not necessarily an appropriate representative of cis straight male attitude considering you believe a males presence in gay ville compromises that?
As far as ones attraction goes, its a reflection ones personal environment, this includes ones personal circles. So it is fare to say that a trans persons experience of suitors in one area is not an adequate reflection of what it would be like for another trans person.
But this is the same for everybody. why? because everybody has their own ideas of what they find attractive. But Yes I am aware that my experience in gay ville might be a lot difference in hetro ville. Ill be finding that out soon. Ill be crossing the boarder into hetro ville next time I go out. (im bricking it). But I has my body guard :P and a safe haven in gay ville, should it hit the fan I got plans on ducking :)
Yes to all the above. ;D
I can put on a troll face mask, show legs and heels and still get hit on by desperate beta males.
But I wouldn't consider it as some sort of bragging right.
I don't think anybody can consider being hit on as a bragging right :P But you don't mean bragging do you?
More like what your saying is, a guy hitting on you doesn't necessarily count as a pass? (Which Is what I thought :P)
I mean, if my legs be the best looking legs a guy has seen (In his opinion) that's still a compliment (If he honest about it). So seen as cis or not, It doesn't take from the observation?
Btw the term, Beta male is a new one to me :P, I see it as a term that refers to a sub standard none-alpha male, But I find a lot of alpha male attitude and behaviours as sub standard (might be my standard of what a good man is. but isnt that what attraction is about) lol. So in terms of attraction beta male just refers to men I'm not attracted too :P
I think it is kinda validating for us
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 12:26:00 AM
I mean, wouldn't a transwoman receive much more attention in gay clubs and venues vs hetero? How attractive are we really to cis men in comparison?
Which validates us as being attractive more?
Well, honey, in my case, I do not frequent any kind of bar. My interaction is solely with cis-man and cis woman either at work, school, and temple.
I do not get hit like crazy but I have been asked out by a number of man, some of which did want to go a little bit further. I was flatter but until the piping is corrected, I am afraid is just occasional dating.
Personally, I think that all those post with "I am getting hit like crazy," are but the product of a feverish imagination, and wishful thinking.
Now, I do acknowledge that to most drunk man even a donkey with earring is hot... LOL
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on June 09, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
I think it is kinda validating for us
Oh it is, and will be :).
Its just I've been through a omg this man is so awesome, and then I found out he's gay :( situation. But yes extremely validating. (assuming they happen to be straight :) )
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 12:10:35 AM
are we being honest with our attractability?
Yeah, I think so or in most cases anyway. The only problem is that people who are beautiful and know it are usually extrememly vain. Those of us that are beautiful and don't think we are, are way more attractive, trans or cis.
I'm confuzzled Evelyn, I'm pretty sure you have said your grossed out by men(sexually) so why would it matter to you? I'm just asking coz the nature of the question confuses me :-\
I *am* grossed out. But my op was a question of validation by the opposite gender. If one tries to proof themselves as being attractive, by which measuring stick are they using.
Okay cool, I understand better now. Ok so back to that question then, I think, ALOT of Gay men hit on TG because they like ummm how to put this, ok to use Gay speak, some guys like to top, some like to bottom, some are Daddys or Twinks and all that. I think gay guys figure that if your pre-op and in a GLBT bar or whatever you more than likely 'bottom' or view the TG as a 'Twink' who likes to cross-dress. I wouldn't personally validate your or anyones passability by the reactions of Gay men. I know a few, and some have real issues with taking TG as anything more than Crossdressers or Twinks, there still in a way victims of there own masculinity or lack thereof(but still Gay, if any of this makes any sense). There was an interesting article about how some Gay men view TG(and I mean some not all, but its a problem)
http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2014/06/06/op-ed-what-we've-failed-remember-t-word
So I dunno I'm always confused, by alot of this myself. I seek validation of how I look and yet I loathe what I receive from Gay men, even though for me I LOVE men..gah! Just not Gay men, because thats counter-intuitive(and possibly 'insulting' to me?) as to what I am trying to grow into as a woman.
Actually this is a hellishly big question Evelyn lol, one that makes me ponder alot of things....
Edit: I'm not sure how to link that any other way :( It works everywhere else just not here(sry this could be a blonde moment)
Nice read. Thanks.
(You'll have to copy and paste the entire url it breaks at ' because the link is not parsing correctly)
Well define getting hit on. I think of course some trans women get hollered at often by straight hetero men. Some guy the other day said I'm so pretty he wanted to marry me lol he might have been high and I'm from a bad hood, so quality and all, but I'm not imagining it. ->-bleeped-<- like that happens to cis girls all the time. Why not me? Why should I question it? But IDK maybe the wholt city is involved in a conspiracy to make me think I pass. Question: do you present full time? That matters. But I was under the impression you never want to go all the way.
I only get hit on by gay guys online... :/ well IRL I only get hit on by guys who don't budge my gaydar. Actually I don't really get hit on so much as stared at and then they look away when I look at them. But I mean, I know where they were looking so. Sigh.
I wish some one would hit on me. I live in a college town and the young guys will peep at my breasts or older gentle men will look at me but, no one so far has taken me to a movie. I've notice guy couples will stare a me though. I don't know what they're thinking I should experiment and go clubing
As a woman, you have to flirt back when a guy talks or they get discouraged. I'm such a sap I say thanks to a lot of creeps just cause I feel bad. A lot of the guys that hit on me are drug addicts. But i live in the ghetto so, yeah. Otherwise they stare. But ive been with my BF for over a year so i aint looking.
I dont understand what "gay venues" have to do with anything? I dont go to those places. But the more I read these comments the funnier it gets. Ill tell ya i get hit on once or twice a day. Sometimes more. By hitting on, I mean, any comment meant to flatter me and get me to come over and talk. Or crude comments. Some girls like it dirty.
Why would I lie...really? And why should this not happen to trans girls who pass? and pass well? It's kind of insulting, I mean look at my avi. That's no makeup, liner, mascara, nada. I think i look pretty. Not hot, but cute, pretty. With the skinny jeans and form fitting top to show of my 30D boobs, guys just like me.
I guess a lot of trans women have big frames tho and are not like me, so maybe im an outlier. But being a woman isnt all that great: ya have to accept being talked down to, be subservient to ur man (and yes, most women go into marriage the weak partner. I know I certainly am. But i luv him) uh, plucking, beautty costs, and all for what? to be a woman. Im transitioning cuz i have no choice. no options. That and life turned great since i started this.
But, EVE K, who is it bragging? A lot of it might be someone excited they passed that well. Also, a guy is a guy. Beta males? Different women find different guys hot, cute. Plus: so-called beta males would be less likely to hit on a trans woman, not more. There's pleny of ugos out there. A trans woman would have beter luck going after an attractive man cause they are secure in themselves. And at the end of the day, guys want someone sweet, not hot. Someone funny and playful, not stacked.
I dont know but i know i saw peeps staring at trans women something fierce today for the Trans Health thingy and these same peeps looked at me and looked away. Is it hard for you to believe you can ever truly pass
Hey Joanna, don't take it personally.
When you say you saw, "peeps staring at a trans women something fierce", how do you discern whether those stares where stares of lust or stares of disgust?
Are the peeps gay?
Are the peeps ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s?
Are the peeps hetero males?
How do you ascribe "stares" from each of the above according to the target (transwoman's) passability?
Thing is you can't really without getting in their brains.
Quote from: stephaniec on June 10, 2014, 06:50:39 AM
I wish some one would hit on me. I live in a college town and the young guys will peep at my breasts or older gentle men will look at me but, no one so far has taken me to a movie. I've notice guy couples will stare a me though. I don't know what they're thinking I should experiment and go clubing
Stephaniec, looking the way you do in your avatar, you can bet I'm going to sit down with you and have a chat. You are sweet.
I like your altitude. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi59.tinypic.com%2Fdq18u9.jpg&hash=a8c6aa98fc7d1e6242487dea57a5c4cf0ff9d7da)
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 10, 2014, 07:41:05 AM
Stephaniec, looking the way you do in your avatar, you can bet I'm going to sit down with you and have a chat. You are sweet.
I like your altitude. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi59.tinypic.com%2Fdq18u9.jpg&hash=a8c6aa98fc7d1e6242487dea57a5c4cf0ff9d7da)
thanks
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 10, 2014, 07:37:25 AM
Hey Joanna, don't take it personally.
When you say you saw, "peeps staring at a trans women something fierce", how do you discern whether those stares where stares of lust or stares of disgust?
Are the peeps gay?
Are the peeps ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s?
Are the peeps hetero males?
How do you ascribe "stares" from each of the above according to the target (transwoman's) passability?
Thing is you can't really without getting in their brains.
They were neither lust or disgust, just kinda WTF! There were a lot of trans women, like lots. Mainly it was really bad wigs and bad clothes and big muscles that clocked them. So yeah cant say bout anyone else. But I have no idea why I said that. My point is do you think that every transwomen is at a severe disadvantage to cis women and can never be similar or land a straight man and that t=girls who say they get hit on are lying? or is it bragging?
I dont know I've never been clocked or had anything bad happen to me. Or had the slightest comment.
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 10, 2014, 07:37:25 AM
Hey Joanna, don't take it personally.
When you say you saw, "peeps staring at a trans women something fierce", how do you discern whether those stares where stares of lust or stares of disgust?
Are the peeps gay?
Are the peeps ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s?
Are the peeps hetero males?
How do you ascribe "stares" from each of the above according to the target (transwoman's) passability?
Thing is you can't really without getting in their brains.
Yes this is true. Last week I was out shopping after work and a woman was staring at me. Naturally my brain thought oh she's clocking me. But she actually talked to me she told me she wished she was my height. You really don't know what people are thinking when they stare it could be anything. :)
Since we're talking gay men, I have no idea. :) I originally read it as more general, and the handful of times I've gone to lesbian events I've had a couple of women indicate that they find my sort of "low-maintenance femme" thing attractive, but I don't hang out in venues targeting gay men (I never went clubbing anyway, and I don't have any interest in the gay male scene when I don't really "get" any part of it).
As for generalized harassment in public, yeah, many cis women get it all the time too. It's not really about attractiveness so much as it is a certain type of man establishing his power.
I've been hit on by men who are both creepy and homophobic [=unlikely to be reading me as male if they're doing this publicly], but while I admit it was a little validating early on, now I'm as irritated as my cis feminist friends.
Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 10, 2014, 09:28:34 AM
I admit it was a little validating early on, now I'm as irritated as my cis feminist friends.
It was/is validating. And i'm sure it is validating to cis women too who might be in the dumps. I just dont get the gay thing? Ive never been to a gay bar other then to hang out. Gay men wont wouldnt date me, as im too femme looking.
Yeah people stare all the time, dont mean nothing. I think im missing something with this thread.
I get hit on constantly...I've been catcalled, followed, approached sexually by coworkers, flirts from my boss, etc. I pretty much frequent target for shopping, my place of employment and the dog park...these have been all straight men. I'm not much for going out, I never have been, so this is based off of daily routines.
I do have several gay and lesbian friends and they're actually the ONLY groups to never flirt with me.
I get the feeling something is being implied by the OP without actually coming right out and saying it in this thread. There doesn't seem to be an understanding (at least by everyone) what exactly is being asked or what the point of the thread is.
I've not been hit on by anyone that I remember. Ever. I am pretty oblivious to things like that though. Honestly I don't spend very much time in places with single people. So that might be a reason. Attractiveness is different for everyone. I happen to think I'm a relatively attractive person but that doesn't mean others think so which again could be part of the reasoning
Quote from: EmoAlice on June 10, 2014, 12:51:42 PM
I get the feeling something is being implied by the OP without actually coming right out and saying it in this thread. There doesn't seem to be an understanding (at least by everyone) what exactly is being asked or what the point of the thread is.
I took it as a roundabout way of doubting when any of us say we were hit on by a straight guy.
Quote from: EmoAlice on June 10, 2014, 12:51:42 PM
I get the feeling something is being implied by the OP without actually coming right out and saying it in this thread. There doesn't seem to be an understanding (at least by everyone) what exactly is being asked or what the point of the thread is.
The meat and potato's of the question is right here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,166653.msg1446595.html#msg1446595
And MikaylaGC followed up pretty much what I was thinking all along:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,166653.msg1446215.html#msg1446215
No conspiracies here. :P
I've never been hit on by gay men, I usually get hit on by older gentlemen... i don't really know how to feel about this because these men are old enough to be my father/grandfather... I mean they are nice and respectful but.... idk, anyway. Otherwise, i've gotten hit on maybe once or twice by straight men, gay men usually "avoid" me for some reason :P In my experience at gay venues, either most of the men see a woman and aren't interested, or see a transwoman and arent interested :P
I've gone to a gay strip club and been hit on by a couple of the strippers there after closing.... and they claimed to be "bi", don't know if that counts 0_o
Funnily enough; I seem to attract the attention of middle aged black men LOL can't pinpoint what it is they like about me, but most of the "attraction attitude" ive received are usually from straight black guys who are between 35-50... fascinating.
I guess this is a bit of a double-edged sword, and somewhat confusing for some of us. Some TG, go to GLBT(why is the T at the end btw, I think I'm gonna be a rebel and say TGLB from now on \o/ ) clubs/events etc to a/have some Trans-pride and be pro-active in the TGLB community or b/coz its somewhere safe for them to be who they wanna be(perhaps especially early in transition? Just musing here but anyways).
So......in that case your around potentially very open minded ppl of a similar or like mind, but technically into same sex relationships. Alot of Gay & Bi men especially seem to have difficulty seperating crossdressers/twinks/effeminate men from TG. Personally I think this explains why TGLB events/bars TG's can be hit on alot more. Its actually highly disrespectful to me, and I shudder to think that someone would base there attractiveness level as there chosen sex based on that.
But.....on the flipside I 'get' why it can be hell flattering to alot of ppl and a real confidence booster. But just remember this, lets say if we continue my musings this person who hits on you and is making you feel good, takes you to bed(or whatever)....what do they see from you? are they taking you to bed/chasing you because they think your an intelligent, charming & good looking woman in there minds eye or are they treating you as a chick with dick(ergo they as a gay man in this example still considers you based on your equipment, not as you present).
Again on the flipside.....this would be great if you dont get hung up on such things,but, alot of TG (I guess) do seek validation from the opposite binary sex. To me its not healthy mentally, if your not interested in them sexually or physically/mentally. Thats like a Lesbian woman getting hung up on not feeling attractive around straight men...its counter-intuitive because she could and prolly does feel uncomfortable around them but feels like a goddess amongst her peers. Its more healthy I think to feel attractive to who you wanna attract.......but(here we go again :P )I have this vague notion that a TG who wants to have a somewhat normal binary relationship with a straight man, has taken the most difficult path compared to having a relationship with another TG/Gay guy/Bi person etc etc
Its all interesting banter, but at the end of the day, lets not over think it, this stuff could crush you if you let it :)
I thought I might share something interesting that happened to me just over a week ago, I was in a LGBT bar, a gay man started hitting on me and I wasn't in the mood so I told him I was taking Androcur and then explained what the effects are and how happy I would never get an erection again and that I was chemically castrated.
As it happens I actually hadn't started taking Androcur but I had the prescription and was just waiting to do a final reference blood test, I'm now a week in.
What happened was like something from a movie scene, there was a look of utter horror and then he lost all interest.
Coming from the other side of the bar here. The only time I've had gay men hit on me is when I've been in a uniform that is totally male oriented. When the uniform is more unisex and I can present more andro I'm ignored. Now I don't frequent gay bars or clubs in the city on my day off. (Reminds me off what I use to do, give me live band and a pool table). But the attention I have attracted was from straight men and women. Even walking through some of our gay area's night or day I don't turn any heads.
Now why the attention when I was in a 'male' uniform? Now in some other posts I've spoken about a mental mindset if you want to slowly transition quietly and stealthy (something I failed to have). Now why my dress was male, my voice body language posture screamed female. For some this effeminate male could be considered a 'tink', (I wasn't). Now dressing and presenting the way I wish I dissappear.
Now the guys that have chatted me up are they exclusively straight, I don't know I'm not a mind reader if I was I wouldn't be working I would be making money at the poker tables.
Glad to see you back Evelyn asking the questions that make us all scratch our heads and think
Men are like dogs
They will sniff everything
I get hit on a lot and sometimes if not all the
Time I'm read shortly after. They usually say the
" I'm not into trans but you really tempt me "
And I smile and say " legendary trap " snd walk away.
Quote from: Bijou on June 10, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
I took it as a roundabout way of doubting when any of us say we were hit on by a straight guy.
It definitely comes across that way, at least to someone who gets hit on a lot. I didn't get hit on today though. But, lucky me, I did get sexually molested. I went to buy my BF a pack of cigarettes cause he's the laziest person ever, or is it because he takes care of me, not sure, anyhoo I was walking to 20th and Susquehanna (go ahead, google it. it's a beautiful area hehe) and this guy blocks my way and I thought he was just messing about, but then he grabs me by my waist and pulls me to him while grabbing my ass and staring into my eyes like he wanted to devour me. Then he let me go or I escaped (he wasn't holding on that hard, but still) and that was that. Trust me, this guy was straight. Straight out of a rap video--or prison. Prolly both. And he obviously liked what he saw. So, while validating, it was also scary and a complete violation of my space and just wrong. Gawd. I didn't even say anything. I just kinda grinned. I was so scared. I'm really small so I can not fight back.
So I have mixed feelings about this topic. While interesting, for peeps like me who get hit on (or molested) it makes you second guess yourself. All day I wondered, was that guy joking? Just making fun of me? Maybe I'm not passable at all. I should just quit. I'm so ugly. UGH. Wait, no, I look pretty, yeah, I'm fine. I mean the other day some guy said I was so pretty that he wished he had a million dollars or money or something so he could marry me right there as someone as pretty as me deserves the best or some stuff. It was so sweet and made me feel great and hopeful and alive and just good. It's been happening a lot. I won't lie my number one goal in life is to be pretty. I'm not kidding it means a lot to me. I'm pretty useless and lazy so if I was uber pretty, boom, I can continue that way. I kid I kid. About being lazy. haha
But I've never been hit on by a gay guy. Never been to a gay bar in ages. No gay guy would want me, eva.
I haven't been catcalled since July 2013, and it was rather dark. I've never been hit on. Not that I do a lot of nightlife, and my facial expression are usally fixed at "grumpy - I will kill you if you ever try something". Neither in gay bars.
Let's see if things change after FFS. The only times I am approached are to ask me if I really am a woman.