What is this world coming to? At 8:00 this morning I was in the backyard with my puppy when I heard sirens wailing in my neighborhood. The sirens stopped just one block from my house. Next I heard a car engine rev up very loud, then lots of shouting, and then I heard guns firing... many shots were fired! I heard my next door neighbor shouting "get down! get down! get down!" I ducked behind a tree in my yard and waited for the shooting to stop.
What a moron! I guess that idiot wanted to commit death by cop... well he got it! From now on, anyone who wants to have a shoot out with police needs to stay out of my neighborhood, 'kay?
Wow, are you OK? I know that can throw you for a loop knowing it can happen right in your backyard, or front yard, as the case may be. I've lived in some neighborhoods that were pretty sketchy over the years and have heard a lot of gunfire, but it's also happened right down the street twice since I moved to a "better" neighborhood six years ago.
So yes, people are nuts.
I feel you. I've had gunshots go off in my parking lot.
One time, I was waiting at a bus stop at five in the morning to go to work when a cop pulled over and asked if I'd heard any gunshots. A very scary world out there.
Quote from: Jill F on June 11, 2014, 06:06:42 PM
Wow, are you OK? I know that can throw you for a loop knowing it can happen right in your backyard, or front yard, as the case may be. I've lived in some neighborhoods that were pretty sketchy over the years and have heard a lot of gunfire, but it's also happened right down the street twice since I moved to a "better" neighborhood six years ago.
So yes, people are nuts.
I was pretty rattled for a couple of hours after it happened. When the shooting stopped, I went inside and locked the windows and doors just in case the shoot out turned into a manhunt. It was a good excuse to show up a couple hours late to work. But I'm more annoyed than upset at this point.
I don't even live in a bad neighborhood. In fact, I moved to this neighborhood because there's hardly any crime here. It's a quiet neighborhood and I like it that way. It just goes to show that you never know where the insanity will turn up next.
I used to live in an affluent neighborhood, and we occasionally had a fugitive on the loose in the area. Helicopters would fly overhead and bellow descriptions. This happened every few years, I guess. I never saw or heard a shootout.
The helicopter thing happens a few times a year in my new neighborhood, and we also have a healthy police presence. Sirens have become unremarkable to me (in fact, I can hear some now). But I haven't gotten used to the screaming matches that some of my neighbors indulge in. I'm always thinking that one of them will whip out a handgun and take the other person out. So far, I don't think it has happened, but I'm not expecting the winning streak to last.
Speak of the devil. There was a shooting in the alley two doors down today. I thought the noise was a car backfiring, but it was a gunshot.
I thought it hadn't affected me, but I jumped at a loud noise later while I was driving. I hadn't even verified that there had been a shooting, but I was still jumpy.
Very weird.
Quote from: Arch on June 12, 2014, 09:08:25 PM
Speak of the devil. There was a shooting in the alley two doors down today. I thought the noise was a car backfiring, but it was a gunshot.
I thought it hadn't affected me, but I jumped at a loud noise later while I was driving. I hadn't even verified that there had been a shooting, but I was still jumpy.
Very weird.
Pretty sure, the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
I cannot argue with you on that one.
Yeah, people are nuts. But wow, I would have liked to have been there to see what was happening though. You should have stayed outside and wait for the news crew to arrive and make the ten O'clock.
Did you ever figure out what happened?
Quote from: Jess42 on June 13, 2014, 08:38:52 AM
....Did you ever figure out what happened?
I did. Apparently the police attempted to stop an older man in his Bronco for a minor traffic violation. He refused to pull over, so the police gave chase. A second police car joined the chase (it lasted about 1.5 miles). The Bronco got blocked in by traffic at the stop sign at the end of my street, so the 2 police cars block the street behind the Bronco and the cops ordered the driver to get out of the car. Instead, the driver rammed one of the police cars with his truck, so 2 officers unloaded their handguns on him. He was taken to a neighborhood hospital where he was pronounced dead. There has been no word from police as to why the bonehead was so desperate to get away.
One less dummy on the streets.
Quote from: Miharu Barbie on June 13, 2014, 12:41:33 PM
I did. Apparently the police attempted to stop an older man in his Bronco for a minor traffic violation. He refused to pull over, so the police gave chase. A second police car joined the chase (it lasted about 1.5 miles). The Bronco got blocked in by traffic at the stop sign at the end of my street, so the 2 police cars block the street behind the Bronco and the cops ordered the driver to get out of the car. Instead, the driver rammed one of the police cars with his truck, so 2 officers unloaded their handguns on him. He was taken to a neighborhood hospital where he was pronounced dead. There has been no word from police as to why the bonehead was so desperate to get away.
One less dummy on the streets.
Oh yeah. Probably over a warrant or something else or just drugged up or too drunk or another million different reasons why.
One of those would be my guess.
Anyway, I'm glad you're okay, Barbie. And your puppy as well.
There was a shooting next door to the place I lived years ago. The guy who lived there was a cop and the person doing the shooting was his jilted former girlfriend...also a cop! That's just messed up!
Quote from: Ms Grace on June 13, 2014, 07:04:06 PM
There was a shooting next door to the place I lived years ago. The guy who lived there was a cop and the person doing the shooting was his jilted former girlfriend...also a cop! That's just messed up!
Cop on Cop crime. But they are jsut people too. About 15 years? ago where I am a deputy lost it went into a bank, not for robbery though, kidnapped one of the tellers, raped her and killed her. I met her boyfriend a while back, they were a month from getting married. How in the hell do guys like that slip through system? They really need stricter more indepth Psyche Evals. Hell he was only a deputy for a little over a year. Just goes to show you have to keep your guard up even around those that are supposed to protect us.
Reminds me of my neighborhood. In the past 4 years we've had a few shoot outs, one man killed by the cops. We've had full on swat teams show up, snipers and all. We've had police chases literally down my street. We've had fugitives running and breaking into houses, helicopters flinging over head, spot light on and all. We've had multiple break ins, brawls in the front yards, car accidents, a fire most recently down the block and a few drunk drivers almost mulling kids over and one even took out a street light a few apartments down. Oh and don't forget the drug dealers and prostitutes as well.
I live in a massive low income housing compound basically... and I'm on the "tame" side apparently. -__-;
This is why my children can't play outside and I have to literally take them to parks out of the area to play. Can't wait to move someday.
Quote from: Hex on June 13, 2014, 07:56:10 PM
Reminds me of my neighborhood. In the past 4 years we've had a few shoot outs, one man killed by the cops. We've had full on swat teams show up, snipers and all. We've had police chases literally down my street. We've had fugitives running and breaking into houses, helicopters flinging over head, spot light on and all. We've had multiple break ins, brawls in the front yards, car accidents, a fire most recently down the block and a few drunk drivers almost mulling kids over and one even took out a street light a few apartments down. Oh and don't forget the drug dealers and prostitutes as well.
I live in a massive low income housing compound basically... and I'm on the "tame" side apparently. -__-;
This is why my children can't play outside and I have to literally take them to parks out of the area to play. Can't wait to move someday.
Oh crap. that sounds more like a war zone more than a residential zone. I hope you and your kids can get out as soon as possible.
Hey Miharu Barbie. In your avatar, what tatoo were you getting?
You and me both. It's pretty bad here to the point the city has a small office for police officers literally in the landlord office. And the sad part is? The landlords feel the need to hire these gardening guys that come out once to twice a week and prune the heck out of the whole grounds to where when you drive around it looks so pleasant and serene almost. Too bad the residents taint this place and the landlords could give a rats butt otherwise. After 2 years of sending in reports of my garbage dispose not working and maintenance just coming in to band-aid fix it just like everything, I finally got a new one once the old one's blades literally fell to pieces.
And don't get me started on my roof that's been leaking for the past year. And of course as any government funded thing works, calling HUD results in nothing so yeah. Hoping we get lucky this year and can afford to move asap.
Quote from: Jess42 on June 13, 2014, 08:01:34 PM
Hey Miharu Barbie. In your avatar, what tatoo were you getting?
She's still red, angry and bleeding in the picture, but that's my Eight Ball Barbie Doll. (This picture does not do her justice; she's gorgeous!) She's based on the 2009 Hard Rock Cafe Rockabilly Barbie Doll.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages14.fotki.com%2Fv1625%2Fphotos%2F1%2F1164611%2F5531084%2Fphoto-vi.jpg&hash=f4566c1492c8572c1c4bf9ce06cea21ae636de0f)
I love it. The artist did a good job. I love the pinup girl Rockabilly style. Who wouldn't want Betty Page as their grandmother just to have bragging rights?
Quote from: Miharu Barbie on June 13, 2014, 12:41:33 PM
I did. Apparently the police attempted to stop an older man in his Bronco for a minor traffic violation. He refused to pull over, so the police gave chase. A second police car joined the chase (it lasted about 1.5 miles). The Bronco got blocked in by traffic at the stop sign at the end of my street, so the 2 police cars block the street behind the Bronco and the cops ordered the driver to get out of the car. Instead, the driver rammed one of the police cars with his truck, so 2 officers unloaded their handguns on him. He was taken to a neighborhood hospital where he was pronounced dead. There has been no word from police as to why the bonehead was so desperate to get away.
One less dummy on the streets.
Please understand that some of these people who are nuts are actually nuts, and not stupid or mean-spirited.
When cops try to question me, I'm usually cool about it. Sometimes I'm scared though, and maybe one day I'll try to run away. I don't know. But if I have fears about my own ability to always behave well around police, god knows what my kid is in for. She doesn't track well enough to know what anyone is mad about, and when cops get mad, they get
mad. They get to make you die if you inconvenience them. She grunts and screams when she is upset, and she shrieks when she's happy. The police have not been particularly accepting of her presence so far.
The driver of the Bronco should have had family caring for him. He shouldn't have been out driving alone if he was that crazy.
Good point Felix. From my frame of reference, it seems that situations such as the police shooting in my neighborhood this week have broader implications than being sensitive to the care and feeding of the individual who ended up in the morgue. If an individual is out there driving around and he has so little regard for cooperating with and getting along with law enforcement officers with their flashing lights and unholstered weapons, such an individual very likely poses a real and immediate danger to the general population. So, the police upset him to the point of smashing cars and flying bullets. What if I had upset him? Or the nice lady next door? There's an elementary school 1 block from my house, and at 8 in the morning, the kids are on the street moving towards the campus. What would it take for a child to piss off such an individual? I don't know either. But I do know that a person who is so wound up that he's prepared to confront and lash out at armed police officers almost certainly poses a danger to the general, unarmed masses of commuters and school kids that this man was sharing the roads with Tuesday morning.
Maybe the police used excessive force. That will be determined soon enough. But I do appreciate them for risking their lives to get a dangerous individual off the road.
I have never had a bad experience with the police from county to state. If I am pulled over for speeding at night the first thing I do is turn the dome light on, roll down the sindow and put both hands on the steering wheel so they can see what they are walking up on. In the daytime I just roll the window down, put both hands on the steering wheel again so they can see what they are walking up on. Then its yes Sir or Ma'am and I don't admit to knowing what I did wrong but when they state it, I have never denied it either. The more at ease you make the officer feel when coming up on you the better the experience will be and a lot more discretion the officer will use and a lot of times you can get away with a warning. Of course if you have warrants or unpaid tickets they do have to do thier jobs because you and your name is in the system and they really can't let you go about your business on that.
So far I have gotten out of two speeding tickets, one 20 MPH over and the state cop gave me a warning and seatbelt ticket. Another time it was 14 over and just got off with a warning. Both were State Troopers and both could have gave me big time violations and fines but it's all about attitude. A while back I did get a ticket for doing a California Stop at a stop sign and a city cop didn't cut me any slack.
They do have a hard job and every time they pull someone over or go out on a call they could actually lose thier lives. Traffic stops are the most dangerous especially at night becuase they have absolutely no idea of what or who they may be walking up on and a lot of them have been shot doing that. So I try to make them feel as safe as possible. I think they do an excellent job at keeping us as safe as they can with the resources they have.
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