I was at McD's with my dad, and I had to use the washroom.
It didn't feel right going to the womens, it makes me feel like a creeper, like I don't belong there.
So I went into the mens.
MY FIRST TIME EVER.
USING THE MENS POTTY.
Its so messy in there, holy ->-bleeped-<-.
Its like, all the cleanliness effort goes into the womens bathroom so the mens is kind of yuck.
And I was nervous, VERY nervous, but I'm good at faking confidence.
And seriously only ONE stall? Whaaat.
But anyways, in I went (though it felt silly, cause I had to change a tampon) and when I left, I accidentally make eye contact with an employee. But it was brief and he didnt look at me funny and I went back to my seat, feeling a bit like a female rebel who don't know no gender bounds, instead of being a guy.
But I'd call it a success!
I need to get used to going into the guy washrooms.
OH.
YEH.
At WalMart the other day, the husband was supposed to change Jellybeans diaper, and hes like I CANT DO IT cause theres no changing station in the mens bathroom. So I was forced to do it in the womens. Booo.
Since I don't use the urinal I often find it difficult as there is frequently only one stall in many men's restrooms. I would like to see multi-user unisex restrooms with an adequate number of private stalls acessible to all.
It depends on the restaurant. I don't eat at McDonald's, but wendy's has had horrible filthy bathrooms as well as bathrooms that were absolutely spotless and smelled great. My expectations are it between.
Oh and having worked retail myself I've noticed more often than not, but not always, the Women's room was worse than the men's room. When I worked at KFC it was about the same, but women would leave tampons and maxy pads laying around. On the other hand my worse experience at cleaning them was so bad I'm not mentioning the details because I don't want to gross anyone out, but it was the mens. It also took me 2 hours to get over how sick it made me.
Congratulations. ;D
I held a number of menial jobs before transition, so I was pretty well familiar with the men's room ahead of time. But you're right, they are usually smellier. And the fewer-stalls thing can get frustrating. I employ a lot of strategy in where and when I use public restrooms, and I have no problem waiting in line for a stall, or finding another place if there isn't one. Lots of guys do that.
I don't eat fast food much. I went to taco bell a couple weeks ago though and I was a little afraid to use the bathroom because I vaguely remembered a news report about some transperson being assaulted. You have to get buzzed in by an employee though so I was comforted knowing there wouldn't be a ton of traffic.
Grats again. That is a huge milestone.
Walmart has a family bathroom with a baby changer in it...
Not all Wal-Marts have family rest rooms, Alex. The older ones, especially. As more get remodeled and turned into super centers, they're getting them, but I can think of at least two off hand that don't have family ones.
Congrats, Rawb! It's always very exciting the first time you use the correct rest room.
Quote from: devention on June 28, 2014, 09:50:25 AM
Not all Wal-Marts have family rest rooms, Alex. The older ones, especially. As more get remodeled and turned into super centers, they're getting them, but I can think of at least two off hand that don't have family ones.
Congrats, Rawb! It's always very exciting the first time you use the correct rest room.
The one here is considered a supercenter, because it was a tester for the supercenter model and has no family bathroom.
Congrats :)
I tend to not use public restrooms unless I absolutely have to, mainly for the reason of there only ever being one stall in the mens.
One particularly awkward experience I had was at a state park restroom...3 dudes cleaning their fish in the bathroom sinks. I'm pee shy and took forever to actually go, and then couldn't even wash my hands :-\
I find that surprising. I've never met another guy that wants to expose his junk to other guys. Many guys (including this girl trapped in a guy's body) have a don't talk to me while I'm holding my junk policy.
I feel I live (lately, not in my past) a fairly charmed life, and most men's rooms are not any worse than women's rooms. OTOH, I would say general "repair" is worse. If a lock is broken, a door latch is broken, water on the floor, etc etc. no one ever complains and the problem stays a problem. On the plus side, there is ALWAYS soap.
--Jay
Congrats Rawb! ;D
Quote from: aleon515 on June 28, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
I feel I live (lately, not in my past) a fairly charmed life, and most men's rooms are not any worse than women's rooms. OTOH, I would say general "repair" is worse. If a lock is broken, a door latch is broken, water on the floor, etc etc. no one ever complains and the problem stays a problem. On the plus side, there is ALWAYS soap.
--Jay
Haha yes, I do appreciate the abundance of soap in men's bathrooms.
I haven't been in many bathrooms that are real bad, but the one complaint I have is when there is a reaaaally dirty urinal cake or when someone just took a very vile poop and the smell lingers in the warm air lol.
I have only been to one men's bathrooms which was at a lecture hall/diner and it was spot clean and largely unisex toilets so YOLO. I actually didn't even reflect over it at the time. I just decided I needed to go so I went there and while inside I was like hey, wait a minute. It's the only public one I've used that was referred to as specifically male so I can't tell how unique the experience is as Sweden tends to house unisex at most places like McDs. I felt weird because I was sitting down instead of standing up even though it was just a regular bathroom with a door (not really a stall in such a sense) and no one could see me even.
At least it was nice and clean lol. I tend to avoid public restrooms in general for this reason. The hygiene just isn't the best overall.
I'm Pre-T and I've always found it strange going into the ladies room since I've dressed in guys clothes practically all my life. Ever since my mom let me pick what I wanted to wear this was my clothing choice. Minus holidays where she forced me to wear dresses (eww). But I always find it strange to go into the ladies room because I always get the eye like "What the hell are you doing in here?" Because I pass as an 19 year old boy a lot of the time. So I've never felt like I belonged in the ladies room, because I don't for many reasons but it's kinda like this is where the hell I have to go until I start transitioning.
Quote from: aleon515 on June 28, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
I feel I live (lately, not in my past) a fairly charmed life, and most men's rooms are not any worse than women's rooms. OTOH, I would say general "repair" is worse. If a lock is broken, a door latch is broken, water on the floor, etc etc. no one ever complains and the problem stays a problem. On the plus side, there is ALWAYS soap.
--Jay
This has been my overall experience. Speaking of broken locks, the lock in the men's room at work was broken for at least 3 months before it was resolved. I remember the lock in one of the women's having been broken pre-transition and the issue was resolved within a few days.
Quote from: awilliams1701 on June 28, 2014, 11:18:15 AM
I find that surprising. I've never met another guy that wants to expose his junk to other guys. Many guys (including this girl trapped in a guy's body) have a don't talk to me while I'm holding my junk policy.
Not sure if this was in reference to my post, since it was directly after, but I'm assuming it is cause it seems to be the only one that fits lol.
"Cleaning their fish" wasn't an innuendo, I literally mean that they caught fish out of a lake, took them into the bathroom, and proceeded to gut/clean them in the bathroom sinks.
Oh lol. I really thought you were calling it a fish. Ive never seen anything like that in a bathroom before either. Most guys I've known try to leave ASAP even if it means not washing hand properly.
Quote from: aleon515 on June 28, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
On the plus side, there is ALWAYS soap.
This made me laugh. :laugh:
I agree though that the general state of disrepair has a lot more to do with less upkeep than with men just treating facilities worse.
Nope awilliams, I wasn't calling it a fish :laugh:
Seems that places where one bathroom is disgusting or trashed, more often than not, all the other bathrooms will be as well. The same people usually clean all the bathrooms so if they don't feel
like cleaning, restocking, or maintenance, no bathroom is getting special attention.
Of course, not saying this is true of all public bathrooms everywhere all the time, just an observation I've noted from personal experience. It's always one of those "unspoken gratitude to the sh*tscrubber gods" situations when you walk into a bathroom and can feel safe not hovering 8 inches above the bowl with a flimsy paper seat cover being drowned by toilet water as it slides into the bowl.
Sorry if that went slighy off-topic.
The guys restroom has a stench that is unbearable to me now that I am transitioning to female.
I am sexually attracted to females so I like their smell much better (although it does verge on sickeningly sweet occasionally now that I am on hormones myself.) I use this to explain why the mens room smells bad to me. Even more now that my own hormone smell is not blocking some of it lol.
Big truck stops are the worst. The guys sit there and hold their body functions for up to several days and let it rot inside themselves. But on the other hand, a lot of bigger restrooms have a changing table. For travelers and all.
Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on June 28, 2014, 10:07:04 AM
The one here is considered a supercenter, because it was a tester for the supercenter model and has no family bathroom.
Must be a newer feature, because now that I think about it, the one in the next town over from the one I work at doesn't have one either, and that one was done a few years before mine was converted. Funny world, this is. What a difference a couple years make.
Still. Congrats to Rawb for not feeling like he had to use a family restroom. It can be scary.
Right now, I'm pretty much at the point where people have to look twice at me to figure my gender so I get a lot of stares. And I don't really feel like I belong on the mens or the womens bathroom ^.^;;
Im looking forward to college starting up though, I'm completely known as a guy there. Nobody will know me as a girl at all, so mens bathrooms and correct pronouns and it's gonna be goooood.
Yay :D grats Rawb.
I found my first time in the men's pretty nerve wracking. I can't actually remember the when or the where: it was more than a few years ago now, before I started T. I've never been stopped in a restroom. After I started binding I did get a few ?? glances in the female toilets but I was very reluctant to switch over because I was worried about getting hassled in the men's/there not being stalls free (if i do go in the men's and there is no stall free then I just turn round and walk out again). I switched once I started to worry that I was more at risk of being called out in the women's. ::) And after all that worry, my first trip into the men's was completely uneventful: in fact generally I find men don't really look at you much. Though... sometimes I get looks when I'm standing there assiduously washing my hands rofl.
The whole 'only one stall' thing really bugs me. I think it's stupid and outdated that any male bodied persons should be expected to expose themselves in a public space: my local gym has 'no' private shower or changing stalls in the men's rooms and I personally think it is actually rather appalling that they don't offer the choice of privacy. Obviously that's just my own opinion and I am biased... but it would certainly make my life a lot easier if there were always a decent amount of stalls.
Anyway, I pass 100% of the time now but I still hate public bathrooms and avoid them as much as possible. I get anxious when I go to unfamiliar places and I don't know where the loos are/if they're well maintained. >_>
Quote from: krogan on July 15, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
Yay :D grats Rawb.
I found my first time in the men's pretty nerve wracking. I can't actually remember the when or the where: it was more than a few years ago now, before I started T. I've never been stopped in a restroom. After I started binding I did get a few ?? glances in the female toilets but I was very reluctant to switch over because I was worried about getting hassled in the men's/there not being stalls free (if i do go in the men's and there is no stall free then I just turn round and walk out again). I switched once I started to worry that I was more at risk of being called out in the women's. ::) And after all that worry, my first trip into the men's was completely uneventful: in fact generally I find men don't really look at you much. Though... sometimes I get looks when I'm standing there assiduously washing my hands rofl.
The whole 'only one stall' thing really bugs me. I think it's stupid and outdated that any male bodied persons should be expected to expose themselves in a public space: my local gym has 'no' private shower or changing stalls in the men's rooms and I personally think it is actually rather appalling that they don't offer the choice of privacy. Obviously that's just my own opinion and I am biased... but it would certainly make my life a lot easier if there were always a decent amount of stalls.
Anyway, I pass 100% of the time now but I still hate public bathrooms and avoid them as much as possible. I get anxious when I go to unfamiliar places and I don't know where the loos are/if they're well maintained. >_>
Theres actually a no look policy in the mens room and you don't stand right next to someone in the urinal anyways, Its not a girls bathroom where they sit around and talk. I've went in to mens room with my guy friends and we def don't talk because its weird. Unless we ran in there because we took something from a girl playfully. So you wouldn't need to worry about that.
Quote from: krogan on July 15, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
Yay :D grats Rawb.
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The whole 'only one stall' thing really bugs me. I think it's stupid and outdated that any male bodied persons should be expected to expose themselves in a public space: my local gym has 'no' private shower or changing stalls in the men's rooms and I personally think it is actually rather appalling that they don't offer the choice of privacy. Obviously that's just my own opinion and I am biased... but it would certainly make my life a lot easier if there were always a decent amount of stalls.
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I also find the lack stalls in the men's restroom to be inconvenient since I do not use the urinal. Back when I used the urinal I found it to be disgusting and avoided using one next to somebody else when possible. That is one just of the reasons why I would support unisex multi-user restrooms with an adequate number of private stalls. It would be nice if I could pass so that I could use the women's restroom.
I also find the total lack of privatacy in the men's locker rooms and showers to be disgusting and would like to be able to use the women's locker rooms, showers and changing rooms. Do women's locker rooms and showers have private stalls?
In my experience women's locker rooms/showers do not have private stalls. in fact when I was doing water aerobics, with a mostly older group, the woman would stand around talking in various states of undress.
Quote from: mac1 on July 15, 2014, 09:23:26 PM
I also find the lack stalls in the men's restroom to be inconvenient since I do not use the urinal. Back when I used the urinal I found it to be disgusting and avoided using one next to somebody else when possible. That is one just of the reasons why I would support unisex multi-user restrooms with an adequate number of private stalls. It would be nice if I could pass so that I could use the women's restroom.
I also find the total lack of privatacy in the men's locker rooms and showers to be disgusting and would like to be able to use the women's locker rooms, showers and changing rooms. Do women's locker rooms and showers have private stalls?
Your not suppose to use a urinal right next to someone else anyways, And womans changing rooms showers are no better.
Before I rejected peeing standing up, I would refuse to use a urinal next to another that didn't have a divider. There is also a rule that you do not talk to another guy when either one of you is holding their junk. Some guys break that rule though.
I don't use public restrooms, so I had no idea there were any places that didn't have stalls. What is someone supposed to do if they're sick? What about men who can't stand when they urinate?
I think there is a requirement for places to have at least one handicapped toilet. The stall area is usually a little bigger and there are rails around it. If you can't stand I would imagine you would use that instead.
Quote from: awilliams1701 on July 16, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
Before I rejected peeing standing up, I would refuse to use a urinal next to another that didn't have a divider. There is also a rule that you do not talk to another guy when either one of you is holding their junk. Some guys break that rule though.
Thats true too.
Quote from: awilliams1701 on July 16, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
Before I rejected peeing standing up, I would refuse to use a urinal next to another that didn't have a divider. There is also a rule that you do not talk to another guy when either one of you is holding their junk. Some guys break that rule though.
Also if there is a way you can have a one stall buffer on each side, then that is automatically the toilet people choose.
I worked at a fast food place when I was younger, and sometimes had to clean the bathrooms. The men's room was always SO MUCH dirtier than the women's, and smelled too. I was baffled as to how each room could get so drastically different in the same amount of time. Also, the women's room was larger, had two sinks instead of one, and a floor-length mirror.
I used to work at a store similar to (but a lot smaller than either) wallmart combined with a home depot. I was asked to clean the bathrooms all the time. The women's room was trashed more often, but the men's room smells worse.
I have limited experience inside men's rooms (incidental, when the women's was closed) but, while men's restrooms on average tend to be worse than women's, women's restrooms *can* get much worse than the men's ever can.
Worst bathroom I've ever seen: women's room at a concert, one of the toilets had overflowed and there were things I don't even want to think about floating around-- things you'd never find in the men's room. And people were still using it!
Anyway, just had to add my gross bathroom story to the mix. Rawb, that is awesome-- congrats on the milestone :)