Yes, sorry, another question about boobs. But don't we love 'em?
So, after one year on HRT I am quiet happy with my breast growth. Happier than I thought I would be to be honest. What I'm wondering though is whether or not, over the next twelve months, I can expect the same amount of growth? In other words, is it possible to double in size during the second year of HRT puberty or is the growth rate likely to diminish?
one member said their growth lasted 4 years they landed at DD's
That's quite a touchdown!
The title of this made me think of the south park episode "Major Boobage". Basically Kenny gets high off of cat pee and enters a world where everything is made of boobs. Its a rip off of the movie heavy metal.
Varies from person to person. No way to know.
My breast growth took off for the first 10 months or so but they haven't really grown at all since. They've maybe rounded out a bit and the nipples have definitely grown, but almost no extra soft tissue has grown in what's going on 8 months now.
I bought a stretch type zipper up sweat work out thing awhile back and I was looking in the store windows at my reflection and noticed some major improvement lately at 9 months. I'm getting over the embarrassment and just having a good time. puberty is a wonderful thing
Hi!
Congrats on what you got!
Mine grow then stop, grow then stop, grow then stop.
You'll grow
Hugs
Jen
Mine haven't even started. :'(
Quote from: Ms Grace on June 27, 2014, 09:40:03 PM
Yes, sorry, another question about boobs. But don't we love 'em?
So, after one year on HRT I am quiet happy with my breast growth. Happier than I thought I would be to be honest. What I'm wondering though is whether or not, over the next twelve months, I can expect the same amount of growth? In other words, is it possible to double in size during the second year of HRT puberty or is the growth rate likely to diminish?
The information I've read from multiple sources vary on this a lot (textbooks included). Which is no big surprise as sex reassignment therapy in general is not an exact science :-) .
One source says full A cup to small B over 2-3 years depending on age, another says to expect one cup less than the average in family or woman you share most genetics with (in my case that would be my older sister and I hope mine won't grow that far as I seriously don't want another spine issue) within 3-4 years. Then of course the dosage is mentioned.
So even though we probably will never have an exact answer the estimated thing is that breast would develop at steady rate for two years and then the rate of development gradually slows down over the next year or two. Maybe I should use the word guesstimate instead of estimate though :-) .
Stick with the old adage 1 cup size lower than family members?
So if you're not quite there, maybe there's hope for more? :)
I know you're sensible enough to wait for 2 years before considering a BA.
Two years - still growing in fits and spurts.
I did ask my surgeon about a BA and he said it was too early - at least for me, but as ever YMMV.
Quote from: luna nyan on June 28, 2014, 01:38:14 AM
I know you're sensible enough to wait for 2 years before considering a BA.
I think I can safely say I'm never getting a BA regardless of my final size...
Gosh, if I was one size smaller than my sister I would easily be a DD if not more... :o
Yeah I'd say so, the most growth I've had was in my second year. Now going into my third year my breasts are still growing. At a full A, small B depending on the bra company but yeah we can't really gauge how much growth we will have until at least a good 5 years on estrogen imo. I'm a late stage 3 according to my doc. Since our bodies for the first few years are making the drastic change from testosterone to estrogen. Plus I've read that when your testes are removed you gain a bit more growth/fullness.
Also I gained the second mound on my right breast in the past 6 months and now my left seems to be getting it too. I have a feeling I'll be a full B by next year :)
My breast did a lot of growing in the first year.. at the end of year 1, i was a small C... and I reached a D cup by the end of the second year.
and the one cup size smaller than the females in your family.. for me... that was not true.. My mother also has D cup breasts.. I actually wear a bigger bra than her. she wears a 34D vs my 36D.
but remember... Breast growth comes down to genetics..
Quote from: Ms Grace on June 28, 2014, 01:55:48 AM
I think I can safely say I'm never getting a BA regardless of my final size...
Gosh, if I was one size smaller than my sister I would easily be a DD if not more... :o
Well, if you get sufficient cleavage without having to resort to them, fantastic! As with all prostheses, maintenance required. :/
My view on final breast size for me is like this this:
- half A: I can live with that, push-up bra can fill the rest (current stage)
- A: OK, that's fine
- B: Great
- C: Bonus
- D: Stop growing please
I don't know my older sister's exact size and I hope I won't get too close and be one of the few who consider a reverse BA :-) . My spine is damaged enough from my eye-sight (guess how close I'm to the display and try guessing the font size as well ;-) ) so too much of extra weight in the front would be a bit too stressing.
I think for me its going to be:
A or less: BA required
B: darnit I guess I can live with it
C: PERFECT!
D: yeah no more
This is just a guess though. I won't know until I start HRT and they start growing.
I think it depends... just like with cis girls, some people develop fast and early, some slow and steady. (And final size doesn't seem to correlate with speed of growth at all.)
I actually did start HRT and end up 42DDD at a bit over four years, though I may not be that person mentioned; however, I'd say my growth *definitely* slowed a lot over time. I was 42D at the end of the first year, after all. Also, in my experience and based on what the puberty guides for girls say, the initial development gives way to a much slower "fat distribution" stage that's sort of the capstone of breast growth; it's not as obvious and takes longer than breast tissue to arrive, but is what gives breasts that pillowy softness when fully matured. I'm fairly sure *that* stage is still going on for me, albeit very slowly; for my wife, it lasted basically 10 years - from age 15 to 25 - and she was a 36C at 15 and 36J at 25, so it CAN add a lot!
(My mother is 34A and my sister 36D, but my paternal grandmother was apparently very busty. Genetics are weird.)
There isn't a rule of thumb because a lot of factors beyond just genetic propensities come into play, fluctuating hormonal levels, weight gain and loss, gravity and changes in structure of connective tissues and hydration levels. I've been on HRT for a number of years and didn't experience as much change in the first ten as I have during the second ten years. My spouse's breasts have gone from 34B to 34D during that same time without any appreciable weight gain. Neither of us are spring chickens.
its like the kentucky derpy you dunno which cup is gonna win the race. My first year, I barely got past AA, now 6 months into my 2nd year im a large B pushing small C and still growing.
Mine are definitely in the rounding out stage (rather than perky cone stage), which I understand is more from the progesterone rather than estrogen.....?
Hi ,
I am on Month 16 on Oestrogen only on my second attempt at transition and I am a small B Cup. Unfortunately I have a wide back (so I am a 42B-44B) depending on bra size. However my mother was a 38DDD, so if I can get to a nice rounded C Cup and lose some weight I will be very happy. Unfortunately my current doctor will not prescribe Progesterone for me and so my breasts have this rather conical shape . What they really need is rounding out. When I transitioned before I was on a 12 day Progesterone & 18 day Oestrogen regime and also for a time I was also lactating (I was using a breast pump) and this really helped to build up the breast tissue. In fact I just changed my way of taking my E to do it sublingual and I have been having another growth phase in the last three days. Nipples very tender and itching a few hours after the dose. One way I have learnt to counter the itching is to smear some Tiger balm all around the nipple when the itching gets too much. Its incredibly soothing, but makes me a bit sleepy as it is very relaxing. Get Tiger Balm from your local Chinese medicine place!
JudithLynn
Quote from: judithlynn on June 28, 2014, 06:32:37 PM
Hi ,
I am on Month 16 on Oestrogen only on my second attempt at transition and I am a small B Cup. Unfortunately I have a wide back (so I am a 42B-44B) depending on bra size. However my mother was a 38DDD, so if I can get to a nice rounded C Cup and lose some weight I will be very happy. Unfortunately my current doctor will not prescribe Progesterone for me and so my breasts have this rather conical shape . What they really need is rounding out. When I transitioned before I was on a 12 day Progesterone & 18 day Oestrogen regime and also for a time I was also lactating (I was using a breast pump) and this really helped to build up the breast tissue. In fact I just changed my way of taking my E to do it sublingual and I have been having another growth phase in the last three days. Nipples very tender and itching a few hours after the dose. One way I have learnt to counter the itching is to smear some Tiger balm all around the nipple when the itching gets too much. Its incredibly soothing, but makes me a bit sleepy as it is very relaxing. Get Tiger Balm from your local Chinese medicine place!
JudithLynn
They will round out eventually. I had road cones for quite some time, de-transitioned for two years like a dummy and did a 180 and got back on estrogen and bam! It all came back in spades and then some.
Quote from: Teela Renee on June 28, 2014, 05:15:01 PM
its like the kentucky derpy you dunno which cup is gonna win the race. My first year, I barely got past AA, now 6 months into my 2nd year im a large B pushing small C and still growing.
haha that is awesome.
And yes I know MTFs who have had substantial boob changes after the first year, and even after the second.
I had steady growth for the first 8 months, but they seem to have picked up speed somewhat between 8 months and now (14 months) so I hope they carry on at this pace. I think I am a big B small C at the moment.
I had lower dose E to start, which increased and then added in progesterone later, which is supposed to be the best way to achieve a full shape rather than conical ones, plus I massage them regularly which is supposed to help. I have to say, I really like mine. They are a great shape and getting near the size I want them to be. They are my favourite part of my body for sure :-)
Booooooooobs!!!
I think they can stop now and I would be fine. I have a bombshell bra for when I want the extra vavoom. But I like how I look with said extra vavoom.
My large B, small C in eight months... more than I expected from the whole thing. Now I am hoping for more but not much more.
Be careful what you wish for.
Sigh...
Booooooobs!
Or, as a female colleague jokingly said to me one day when the subject came up..."just be grateful for what you get, you greedy cow!"
Quote from: Ms Grace on June 27, 2014, 09:40:03 PM
Yes, sorry, another question about boobs. But don't we love 'em?
So, after one year on HRT I am quiet happy with my breast growth. Happier than I thought I would be to be honest. What I'm wondering though is whether or not, over the next twelve months, I can expect the same amount of growth? In other words, is it possible to double in size during the second year of HRT puberty or is the growth rate likely to diminish?
Go for it GF, size DD maybe. I love mine however I'm only maybe a B size for now. Growing breasts is just so cool when you think about it. What a great step in life to grow breasts. It's just great. Take care & let's see them big boobies one day. My plastic surgeon does breasts all the time. It's rountine for their office. But I do not want false breasts, I want my own, home grown girls.
Quote from: Ms Grace on June 28, 2014, 08:21:51 PM
Or, as a female colleague jokingly said to me one day when the subject came up..."just be grateful for what you get, you greedy cow!"
And did you moo like a mad cow in response?:P
Anyhow, biology! Doesn't always work the way we hope, but sometimes surprises us in a nice way.
Quote from: luna nyan on June 28, 2014, 10:22:39 PM
And did you moo like a mad cow in response?:P
Nah, laughing too much! :laugh:
It was a very good natured comment, just the funny end of a conversation we were having. She's a lovely woman, not very large in the bosom department herself. She was surprised that boobage I already had was real and that I was still expecting more growth and hoping for at least a C or D.
Last I checked, there were two of them 8) They swell up, they swell down, but after about 5 years I think I've settled into a C cup
Now I'm just hoping they don't turn into saggers
I laugh every time I read the "greedy cow" comment! Especially coming from a lady with smaller breasts. The competition thing, but still funny! I feel that I am that greedy cow. I always want more and more. Now that I am giving the body a rest from bovine ovary (again the "cow," lol) for a month, I am using the Noogleberry pumping system more heavily. One boob is larger than the other, so I am pumping the smaller one a lot more to see if it evens out. So far, it seems to be doing well. So, for those who are wondering how to even out the breasts, this is one way you can do it. Works for me, anyhow! Love those boobs! And they are habit forming, too! Love the extra weight up front! Bring it on, boobie fairy!!
VM, mine were perky to begin with, now they are sagging. I pumped the smaller one so that it would evenly sag, lol. For me, being either a large B or small C cup (estimation), it is most likely the age thing, but as there is more weight to factor in, sagging is just natural, I guess. Can't always be larger and perky, too, I guess! Hopefully yours won't be "saggers."
Quote from: Stephanie2 on June 29, 2014, 12:46:30 AM
VM, mine were perky to begin with, now they are sagging. I pumped the smaller one so that it would evenly sag, lol. For me, being either a large B or small C cup (estimation), it is most likely the age thing, but as there is more weight to factor in, sagging is just natural, I guess. Can't always be larger and perky, too, I guess! Hopefully yours won't be "saggers."
Does the pump thing really work??? My breasts are doing OK but if that helps that might be worth it . I'd love a nice pair of C cup very pretty girls.
Quote from: birkin on June 28, 2014, 07:03:03 PM
haha that is awesome.
And yes I know MTFs who have had substantial boob changes after the first year, and even after the second.
I think mine are slowing down, growing outward wise, but they definatly are still pushing out bit by bit. But they are filling out. My Doctor said im some btween tanner 4, possiably workin into 5. She thinks the fact I lactate fairly heavily helped with that.
Mine right now at nearing the 6th month mark are about a medium A cup. However, instead of the conical thing some have mentioned mine are very round, and growing slow in spurts. Just before a growth spurt they're sore as hell, then afterward they are still sore but not as much. As for size, I'm tiny built and already have spine issues so I'll be very happy with a B cup. Right now I wear a 34A. On rare occasions a 36A depending on brand. And if I get to a C cup, as some have said -stop growing please!! Whatever I end up with even if they're just good A's I don't ever plan on any BA. I can wear a padded bra if I need more effect with an outfit. Right now I wear comfort bra's such as Genie's or Coobie's. No matter how small, or big they get they're mine and I'm very happy to have them.
Best wishes!
Ally :icon_flower:
Quote from: Misha on June 28, 2014, 07:41:22 AM
My view on final breast size for me is like this this:
- half A: I can live with that, push-up bra can fill the rest (current stage)
- A: OK, that's fine
- B: Great
- C: Bonus
- D: Stop growing please
That's great. Love it. DD should be "No, really, STOP."
From what I've heard, DD would be time to schedule reduction surgery. I knew someone who's boobs never stopped growing and as a result she ended up with MASSIVE back problems. I know her husband liked them, but fortunately he understood when she said she needed reduction.
Yeah, I have a friend who's bra size is H, she's not too happy about it :(
FrancisAnn,
Yes, the Noggleberry does help in addition to other things you are taking. They say to do it maybe 15 minutes at a time. I do it for an hour, but during that time I don't pump them up too much. I bought the pump with the pressure gauge so that I can keep them at a certain comfortable level. They sometimes leak out little by little. Then I replenish the suction. I try to seal them well and most important, for lubrication, I use vitamin E oil all over the boobs, especially at the areas that the cups come in contact with the boobs. They leave rings, but they go away in a few hours. I sometimes pump them up, then set a timer for an hour, sleep for that hour, then release the suction when the alarm goes on. Once I fell asleep, forgetting to set the timer, I think for around two to three hours. No damage to the boobs, luckily.
Sorry, typo, the right spelling is Noogleberry, not Noggleberry.
It depends on the person... even my wife at 36J is in no discomfort, and says enormous breasts are sometimes an inconvenience but that's it. I guess we both got lucky, and are sturdily built enough to lug them around.
That makes me feel better about the possibility of getting large boobs some day. If 36J is no discomfort, then I should be doing well at a C or D cup, by any means!
Stephanie : I think a lot does depend on your build and frame size, but this is where trans women being a little bigger in the frame might come in handy. :) I gotta say, 42DDD on me looks about like a 38D does on a friend of mine; I think I have the bone structure to carry it off, and very likely so might you. It's all about proportion.
Hi Girls;
Teela Renee, did you do anything special to induce lactation on your breasts? I used to use a Medela Double Breast Pump when I transitioned before, but then I was on a 18 day Oestrogen & 12 day Oestrogen+Progesterone cycle. Unfortunately my doctor will not put me on Progesterone now because of my age, but reckons I don't need it because my T levels are vey very low - less than 1.9.
Jenna Marie, Have you has Breast Augmentation to get to a 42DDD. I am only 42B cup. My doctor has given me a Referral to a Dr Ives (Surgeon) here in Melbourne for Breast Augmentation as I have been thinking about going to a D or DD Cup size as my breasts are rather conical in shape, but other friends have advised me to wait for another year or so until I have had at least 2-3 years of HRT as I am obviously still growing as I don't want to end up with huge breasts. However a friend in the UK who has recently had Breast Augmentation going from 38A to 38C looks absolutely fantastic and has encouraged me to go for a C Cup augmentation now giving me her surgeon details, even if they grow to a DD Cup (My Mother was a DD Cup) Do you have a picture that you can PM to me of what DDD looks like (Bikini or Tank Top shot would be great). So I am a bit drawn as I would prefer to be "au naturelle"
Grace - Yes I am hoping that my conical shape will fill out eventually. One thing is that in the last month I have started to wear an Underwired push up bra all the time even when in "male mode" - makes me look more chubby, but the good thing is that it is helping to shape the overall tissue. My beautician recommended that I even sleep in it whilst in this growth phase to help shape the tissue, although I find it quite a relief to let them free when in the shower!
Hugs
Judith
Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 29, 2014, 06:36:26 PM
Stephanie : I think a lot does depend on your build and frame size, but this is where trans women being a little bigger in the frame might come in handy. :) I gotta say, 42DDD on me looks about like a 38D does on a friend of mine; I think I have the bone structure to carry it off, and very likely so might you. It's all about proportion.
Not all transwomen are bigger in bone structure or frame size than cis women. I myself have an average bone structure and frame size as most cis women of my height, and with my current spinal issues a DDD cup would not only look very disproportionate on me, but having that size breasts would cause me severe pain struggles to the point of affecting my ability to stand up straight and even may impede walking normally. My only biological family member I can compare myself to is my biological Mom, who was a 34B. However I never knew my real father or his side of the family. Also my Mom hadn't any family left.
Hearing some of these stories of H's, J's, and DDD cups scares me. I just hope I'm not in for an unwanted surprise with my booby's. A Nice round B cup will be just fine for me, and a 34B will look proportionate to my small frame.
Ally :icon_flower:
It is going to be a tough one as far as what size I will end up with in the long run. My mother and sister I think were only an A cup and I am beyond that now, but on both sides of family the grandmothers were a lot bigger. It will be interesting as to the outcome. I am ready for anything, I guess, even though I would be excited knowing ahead of time that I may be getting D's. Whether the frame size will end up making a difference or not.
Quote from: Allyda on June 29, 2014, 11:38:00 PM
Not all transwomen are bigger in bone structure or frame size than cis women. I myself have an average bone structure and frame size as most cis women of my height, and with my current spinal issues a DDD cup would not only look very disproportionate on me, but having that size breasts would cause me severe pain struggles to the point of affecting my ability to stand up straight and even may impede walking normally. My only biological family member I can compare myself to is my biological Mom, who was a 34B. However I never knew my real father or his side of the family. Also my Mom hadn't any family left.
Hearing some of these stories of H's, J's, and DDD cups scares me. I just hope I'm not in for an unwanted surprise with my booby's. A Nice round B cup will be just fine for me, and a 34B will look proportionate to my small frame.
Ally :icon_flower:
Ally
34? That should be pretty much the equivalent of 86 in Europe right? I'm also tall and slim so even full As would look great. That's why I'll also never go for BA (unless in reverse should I need them to be smaller as I mentioned previously :-) ).
Its all in your DNA but that has variable options - your size and more important your weight plays a major part. My close realtives vary from A to D so it could turn out anyway. I have a A+ now and it grows in spurts - I would love it to end up a B+ and I am hopeful.
Judithlynn : No augmentation, no. I think that'd be kind of unhelpful as a contribution to a thread about *growing* breasts. :) I do hear that it's wise to wait for BA until growth is finished, but also I'm not sure whether "au naturelle" breasts are/will/usually look the same as implants. I can still TRY to find a picture, but as I'm very very careful about my face being on the internet, lemme see if I can figure out how to crop one first.
Ally : Oops, my apologies; I usually say "tend to be" bigger in the frame size, but I totally left that out this time. Yes, of course not all trans women are bigger, and not all cis women are dainty, either. I certainly hope you're proportionate! (Also, I think both the H-cup someone else mentioned and my J-cup wife are not trans women, if that helps any.)
Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 30, 2014, 06:59:14 AM
(Also, I think both the H-cup someone else mentioned and my J-cup wife are not trans women, if that helps any.
You're quite correct, my friend is cisgendered, still not happy with her boobs though XD
I would love to have bigger boobs, as in a large C, but if I do get them, as even larger, and because either they show too much or ends up being too heavy for my back problems, then it is too late and have to accept them in any case. Too bad there isn't that magic button to press to make them grow more or to reduce them when too large.
Quote from: Stephanie2 on June 30, 2014, 08:49:27 AM
I would love to have bigger boobs, as in a large C, but if I do get them, as even larger, and because either they show too much or ends up being too heavy for my back problems, then it is too late and have to accept them in any case. Too bad there isn't that magic button to press to make them grow more or to reduce them when too large.
I saw a bra in a catalogue that doubles as a beer or wine dispenser. would that help? ;D
Quote from: Dee Walker on June 30, 2014, 09:11:51 AM
I saw a bra in a catalogue that doubles as a beer or wine dispenser. would that help? ;D
Lol, might be practical depending on the crowd one hangs out with! ;D
Hi, Dee Walker!
That beer or wine dispenser bra is a great idea! I might just get one of those for a great gimmick at one of those crazy functions I go to every year! By all means, wine, my dear, lol!! (Would I then be a booberwiner?)
It was one of those weird gimmick catalogues that come in the mail. Don't remember which, but I found it on the net.
http://www.thebeerbelly.com/The_Winerack_Small_p/200-007.htm
Giggle!
Quote from: Dee Walker on June 30, 2014, 02:01:05 PM
It was one of those weird gimmick catalogues that come in the mail. Don't remember which, but I found it on the net.
http://www.thebeerbelly.com/The_Winerack_Small_p/200-007.htm
Giggle!
Waaa hahaha! :D ;D :laugh:
Quote from: Misha on June 30, 2014, 12:16:54 AM
34? That should be pretty much the equivalent of 86 in Europe right? I'm also tall and slim so even full As would look great. That's why I'll also never go for BA (unless in reverse should I need them to be smaller as I mentioned previously :-) ).
Yea, Misha you look small up top like me. Anything larger than a B+ or small/average C would look disproportionate on you as they would me.
Love your Avatar pic by the way!Quote from: Stephanie2 on June 30, 2014, 12:55:45 PM
Hi, Dee Walker!
That beer or wine dispenser bra is a great idea! I might just get one of those for a great gimmick at one of those crazy functions I go to every year! By all means, wine, my dear, lol!! (Would I then be a booberwiner?)
Lmao ha ha ha ha he, he, he ha ha ha he, he, lol!! I looked at this and it would be great for parties:
"No, no!, my boob's are shrinking! Your drinking too much!, lol!! :eusa_dance:
Ally :icon_flower:
I just have to do this,
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTkDxbWofqja2IZSQwuDGe_D0gC8gHPm_-qbFhzVL3a21_vhcXnkfNQIdi1)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxc0B6FmJlk8XvOsZ276KnTTuWYYhabXqMICVudi2P66z9WTsD)
It seems that the KAT is among the blue-footed boobies :laugh:
Quote from: LordKAT on June 30, 2014, 04:55:27 PM
I just have to do this,
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxc0B6FmJlk8XvOsZ276KnTTuWYYhabXqMICVudi2P66z9WTsD)
:D :laugh: :icon_hahano: They do look a mite different! ( . )( . )
Sheesh, we would get banned for posting pics of boobies, but when a mod does it...
:police:
Quote from: Tori on June 30, 2014, 09:00:55 PM
Sheesh, we would get banned for posting pics of boobies, but when a mod does it...
:police:
Kat cracks me up every time, lol!!, he, he, he. Well ya gotta give him credit for being creative, lol!!
This is a booby thread after all, lol!! As long as mine don't turn blue I'm down with it!
Ally :icon_flower:
I'd show of my boobies but I don't want to frighten anyone
Quote from: V M on June 30, 2014, 10:24:45 PM
I'd show of my boobies but I don't want to frighten anyone
That big?, that small?, One big, one small??
Ally :icon_flower:
I liked the boobie bird pics! A bird in hand is like two in the breast, lol!
Also, looked at the "wine rack" bra product in the Beer Belly catalog link provided. Also the videos of it featured on talk shows. Great device. Free shipping, too! Gives new meaning to "Care for a nip?"
Quote from: Stephanie2 on July 01, 2014, 02:32:23 AM
I liked the boobie bird pics! A bird in hand is like two in the breast, lol!
Also, looked at the "wine rack" bra product in the Beer Belly catalog link provided. Also the videos of it featured on talk shows. Great device. Free shipping, too! Gives new meaning to "Care for a nip?"
:D :icon_hahano:
Quote from: Allyda on June 30, 2014, 10:31:49 PM
That big?, that small?, One big, one small??
Ally :icon_flower:
They're just average far as boobies go I reckon, a pair of bobbly C cups
Hugs
I do not understand why people are afraid of boobs. Everyone has them. Usually girls are larger than boys. But they really have nothing to do with sex. They are only used in feeding infants. Granted it just so happens that they can be aesthetically pleasing to look at, bit they aren't going to end the world like everyone acts like it.
Quote from: V M on June 30, 2014, 10:24:45 PM
I'd show of my boobies but I don't want to frighten anyone
If it weren't for the symbol of femininity, boobies would be just....well, boobies!
Quote from: Stephanie2 on July 01, 2014, 02:32:23 AM
I liked the boobie bird pics! A bird in hand is like two in the breast, lol!
Also, looked at the "wine rack" bra product in the Beer Belly catalog link provided. Also the videos of it featured on talk shows. Great device. Free shipping, too! Gives new meaning to "Care for a nip?"
Yup, I liked those too -got a good laugh also.
Ally :icon_flower:
Yes, that really made my day, maybe my whole week, lol!
Quote from: awilliams1701 on July 01, 2014, 11:48:42 AM
I do not understand why people are afraid of boobs. Everyone has them. Usually girls are larger than boys. But they really have nothing to do with sex. They are only used in feeding infants. Granted it just so happens that they can be aesthetically pleasing to look at, bit they aren't going to end the world like everyone acts like it.
LOL... I think boobs are wonderful 8) I was just kidding around because I don't have a functional camera at this time - I may put something up sometime later but posting pic.s of myself isn't really all too important to me
Hugs
well even if you are most people aren't. It doesn't change the fact that someone accidentally shows their breasts on live TV EVERYONE freaks out about it like its the end of humanity.
Quote from: awilliams1701 on July 01, 2014, 07:11:05 PM
well even if you are most people aren't. It doesn't change the fact that someone accidentally shows their breasts on live TV EVERYONE freaks out about it like its the end of humanity.
I love my booby's. Sometimes I talk to them, lol! if no one's around that is. Can't have someone calling the white coats on me, lol!!, he, he, he. Uh oh, I'm in one of my silly moods again!
Seriously though. For some of us getting our breasts are one of the first things that visually defines our femininity. Even before mine started showing just feeling my sore nipples and that golf ball behind each of them made me feel so wonderfully feminine. Just recently I started having to wear a bra full time, and today when I sold an unneeded item I shoved the money the guy gave me into my left boob. I was always sooooo jealous of my ex when she done this. Now that I can do it it feels great. I may just sleep with that $50. bill tucked in there tonight. Feeling feminine is a very wonderful thing to me. My femininity is wonderful to me, and I'm sooooo happy. Though I've always felt and been feminine all my life, it was never with the intensity it is now.
It's not that any of us are afraid of booby's. It's just that some, well, most, maybe even all of us girls here feel very proud and feminine when we feel out breasts growing. Maybe it's a validation we're on our way to being who we truly are both inside and out. This feeling is soooo wonderful it's hard to put it into words.
Or maybe I'm just a quirky weird girl idk!, lol! But it sure feels great just being a veeery happy girl, whichever type of girl I am.
Ally :icon_flower:
Ally, you put it in a very nice way. I agree. The feeling of having boobs is definitely a feminine feeling. Whether we are transitioning all the way with it or not, it is a strong feminine feature that most of us can welcome, in any case! And nothing wrong with talking to them. Like if you talk to plants, they grow better, they say! Lol!
Quote from: Stephanie2 on July 01, 2014, 11:34:20 PM
Ally, you put it in a very nice way. I agree. The feeling of having boobs is definitely a feminine feeling. Whether we are transitioning all the way with it or not, it is a strong feminine feature that most of us can welcome, in any case! And nothing wrong with talking to them. Like if you talk to plants, they grow better, they say! Lol!
Thanks Stephanie for your lovely compliment. I tried to put the feeling into accurate words, but it's such a wonderful feeling of feminine joy it's hard to explain accurately.
Ally :icon_flower:
You are welcome, Ally, anytime!! Biological men who don't have boobs just wouldn't understand where we are coming from, until they get them!
Talking about twice the boobage,
I have started back at a Gym as I am trying to lose 20kg on the tummy as part of an overall plan to lose weight on the bad places with the HRT depositing fatty tissue on the good places (breasts, bottom and hips). Anyway the gym I go to has some personal trainers and I have a very pretty girl as my personal trainer and she has worked out a program of fitness training to help me get back into better shape and overall improve my female posture. However whilst she knows the full story, the gym doesn't so I am still having to use the Mens changing rooms.
Well today I had one of those ...Oh gosh moments!....
I try to do my workouts at quiet times in the gym so this morning, I was there mid morning and after the workout I disrobed and headed to the shower. So far so good - no one about. Anyway I had a nice hot shower, dried myself off then not thinking straight wrapped the bath towel round my chest and above my breasts tucking it into itself (in a very female way). I then walked back into the locker room, still with my shower cap on.
Straight into this Greek looking hairy male in towel round his waist and little else. Well he did a double take. Looked at me, looked at the door (as if to check that he had walked into the correct changing room) then back at me. He said sorry, then walked into the other area of the locker room. Well I started to get changed and put on my panties, womens jeans etc and because I thought I was on my own let the towel slip. Well at that moment , he came past again. This time he just couldn't take his eyes of my Boobs and nipples (these days they are quite erect). He was so distracted he walked into a closed door. I had a giggle and put my shirt on, slipped on a pair of shoes and walked out of the locker room saying goodbye in the sweetest voice I could muster!.
Looks like I might need to be a bit more careful, or maybe its time to think about moving into the female changing room!
Uh, yea, Judithlynn I think it might be time for you to start using the women's locker room, lol!! I would have looooved to see the look on hairy man's face though. That would have been priceless!!
Ally :icon_flower:
Speaking of boobs being offensive, I saw another article today about a mother breastfeeding in Starbucks. She did it because the baby was crying and irritating the other guests. An older woman got angry and an employee sided with the mother. Even though I'm happy with the outcome the fact that this even came up bothers me.
I was reading about that today also, here's the article right here...
Starbucks Praises Barista Who Defended
Breastfeeding Mom (https://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/julia-wykes-starbucks-ottawa-breastfeeding-213759891.html)
By Elise Solé, Shine Staff | Parenting – Tue, Jul 1, 2014 5:37 PM EDT
After a mother in Ottawa, Canada, was scolded by a customer for nursing her baby inside a Starbucks and a male barista came to her aid, the coffee giant expressed support for its employee, saying he did the right thing.
"We want everyone who comes to our stores to enjoy their visit and to be treated with dignity and respect," Louisa Girotto, director of public affairs at Starbucks Canada, tells Yahoo Shine. "We were very pleased with the customer service our partner offered the woman who was breastfeeding, and I will reach out to him directly."
~ Click on title to read full story ~
yup that's it and there is a video of a separate, but related issue. I don't get it. Boobs are awesome. Get over it.
Kudos to the Starbucks employee and the mother of the child. I hope he's going to be rewarded.
:eusa_dance: YaY Booby's! :eusa_dance:
Ally :icon_flower:
From personal experience the growth is there then stops, then starts again. I guess you could just take a look at your mother or siblings and get an idea of what to expect, though perhaps not quite as much. Genetics places a very major role in our breast development. My breasts are apparently tired of growing and taking a break, hopefully a short one...
Quote from: Katherine on July 03, 2014, 12:00:18 AM
From personal experience the growth is there then stops, then starts again. I guess you could just take a look at your mother or siblings and get an idea of what to expect, though perhaps not quite as much. Genetics places a very major role in our breast development. My breasts are apparently tired of growing and taking a break, hopefully a short one...
I can second this. Mine get real sore just before a growth spurt, then the soreness subsides in a few days when the growth spurt is over. My nipples are always sore though, just not as much between growth spurts.
Ally :icon_flower:
While we are talking about breasts, I finally decided to measure myself, however, I had to look up how, since mine were measured for me more than a year and a half ago, maybe two years. I came upon the JCPenny method, which is the "modern" method of measuring straight across horizontally below the boobs, then to bend over and go across the nipples without pulling the tape measure too tight. According to them, after the math, 3 inches meant C cup. It JUST made it, so a small C cup. I recently estimated them between a large B and small C, so I was guessing pretty well. Also a little while ago I had to go back out to my car across my apartment building parking lot and didn't wear an outer shirt and the girls were all over the place, so felt self-conscious! Good thing I didn't run! At least I had a T-shirt on.
*lol* ive nothing ... 9cm, that means smaller than a AA cup after 17 month. "Great result". Ive no genetics ???
Quote from: Stephanie2 on July 03, 2014, 05:15:42 PM
While we are talking about breasts, I finally decided to measure myself, however, I had to look up how, since mine were measured for me more than a year and a half ago, maybe two years. I came upon the JCPenny method, which is the "modern" method of measuring straight across horizontally below the boobs, then to bend over and go across the nipples without pulling the tape measure too tight. According to them, after the math, 3 inches meant C cup. It JUST made it, so a small C cup. I recently estimated them between a large B and small C, so I was guessing pretty well. Also a little while ago I had to go back out to my car across my apartment building parking lot and didn't wear an outer shirt and the girls were all over the place, so felt self-conscious! Good thing I didn't run! At least I had a T-shirt on.
Trying that I get 3 7/8" I dunno if that is right I mean my breasts do seem pretty big, but I am only 5 months on HRT...it also makes me notice that my band size measurement comes out to 39" but I wear a 38 bra and it fits fine, which makes me wonder about the sizing I am finding in stores.
Quote from: Hikari on July 04, 2014, 05:05:44 AM
Trying that I get 3 7/8" I dunno if that is right I mean my breasts do seem pretty big, but I am only 5 months on HRT...it also makes me notice that my band size measurement comes out to 39" but I wear a 38 bra and it fits fine, which makes me wonder about the sizing I am finding in stores.
Strange, I found the same thing which left me wondering. My spouse claims that it has more to do with the uptick in female obesity and manufacturers trying to accommodate female self esteem over the need to maintain realistic band sizes which isn't too problematic for cis women who try everything on in the fitting room anyway as opposed to many trans women.
Quote from: Katherine on July 03, 2014, 12:00:18 AM
I guess you could just take a look at your mother or siblings and get an idea of what to expect, though perhaps not quite as much.
My mom was skinny and tall and was small breasted. My dad was a little taller than average. I am built more like my grandmothers who were short, stout ladies with large breasts. Hopefully I got my grandma's genes and not my mom's. After 9 months on HRT I am a solid A cup and am still growing; going out braless in a T-shirt in boy mode is ill advised - it gets me consistent weird looks, and it occasionally gets me gendered as female.
I go out in women's clingy cotton T shirts, bra and skinny jeans and get double takes and funny looks all the time, everyone in my community knows me as an androgynous guy type, so far it hasn't ever bothered me probably because I'm personable and well liked. I'm a large B by now so there are no secrets and haters are lucky because they haven't met me yet. ;D
Quote from: Shantel on July 04, 2014, 09:21:21 AM
I go out in women's clingy cotton T shirts, bra and skinny jeans and get double takes and funny looks all the time, everyone in my community knows me as an androgynous guy type, so far it hasn't ever bothered me probably because I'm personable and well liked. I'm a large B by now so there are no secrets and haters are lucky because they haven't met me yet. ;D
Auntie Shan you crack me up. I think the haters are very fortunate they haven't met you yet, lol!!
Ally :icon_flower:
I've been on hormones for around 4 or so months. I notice my breast development and sometimes think not much is happening. One day I was holding a cup of coffee in both hands and felt my breasts just above my hands. Never felt that before and was pleasantly surprised. I have noticed that my friends will look at my breasts now and then. I guess I have more development than I had previously thought...
For me I was very conscious about the boobs when in the shower a couple of years ago. I could feel my upper arms touch the side of the boobs. That was a new experience for me, but an exciting one. My feminine side was getting there.
Why do you all have breasts??? Thats not fair! :'(
Quote from: galaxy on July 06, 2014, 09:00:47 AM
Why do you all have breasts??? Thats not fair! :'(
Are you on hrt sweetie? If you are just give it time. You'll get there.
Ally :icon_flower:
Galaxy, yours might be small, but we envy you because they would be nice and perky!! When they get large, they sometimes get saggy, like mine!
Quote from: Allyda on July 06, 2014, 12:52:19 PM
Are you on hrt sweetie? If you are just give it time. You'll get there.
Ally :icon_flower:
17 month ... no cup :'(
I think I would talk to my doctor about that. I've heard of other people with boob issues here that changed their dosage or even the hormones or even the type of hormones and then their boobs appeared.
Galaxy, have you spoken to your endo about this? What are your levels like and what delivery method are you using? During my first go at transition, when I was only 24-25, I had pretty much zero boob growth after 24 months on HRT, to say it was disappointing would be an understatement, so I understand how you feel about the lack of development. Things have been much better this time around. Different endo, different 'mones, different delivery, different diet, older... different story. I did raise the matter with my endo but he couldn't really say if any of those factors made a difference, so I don't know, especially since I no longer have access to those earlier medical records to compare notes. Anyway, I hope you do get some growth, I know it feels very unfair to have the boob fairy seemingly ignore you.
Quote from: galaxy on July 06, 2014, 04:17:44 PM
17 month ... no cup :'(
pm incoming
Ally :icon_flower:
Quote from: judithlynn on July 02, 2014, 02:37:37 AM
Talking about twice the boobage,
I have started back at a Gym as I am trying to lose 20kg on the tummy as part of an overall plan to lose weight on the bad places with the HRT depositing fatty tissue on the good places (breasts, bottom and hips). Anyway the gym I go to has some personal trainers and I have a very pretty girl as my personal trainer and she has worked out a program of fitness training to help me get back into better shape and overall improve my female posture. However whilst she knows the full story, the gym doesn't so I am still having to use the Mens changing rooms.
Well today I had one of those ...Oh gosh moments!....
I try to do my workouts at quiet times in the gym so this morning, I was there mid morning and after the workout I disrobed and headed to the shower. So far so good - no one about. Anyway I had a nice hot shower, dried myself off then not thinking straight wrapped the bath towel round my chest and above my breasts tucking it into itself (in a very female way). I then walked back into the locker room, still with my shower cap on.
Straight into this Greek looking hairy male in towel round his waist and little else. Well he did a double take. Looked at me, looked at the door (as if to check that he had walked into the correct changing room) then back at me. He said sorry, then walked into the other area of the locker room. Well I started to get changed and put on my panties, womens jeans etc and because I thought I was on my own let the towel slip. Well at that moment , he came past again. This time he just couldn't take his eyes of my Boobs and nipples (these days they are quite erect). He was so distracted he walked into a closed door. I had a giggle and put my shirt on, slipped on a pair of shoes and walked out of the locker room saying goodbye in the sweetest voice I could muster!.
Looks like I might need to be a bit more careful, or maybe its time to think about moving into the female changing room!
I am 3 weeks into estradiol valerate and micronized progesterone. My nipples protrude already when I pull my shirt tight, and my nipples are nearly almost "at attention."
My genetic girlfriend is very supportive of me. She is 32B. I would like minimum 38A which I could hide and still work in male mode. But if they get to 38B they hey I will gladly deal with it.
I feel more attracted to guys now, so I would LOVE to somedays turn a guys head while looking at my breasts, to the point of distraction, that he would walk into a door because he couldn't stop looking at my breasts and nipples.
I'm not at all attracted to guys, but part of me thinks it would be fun to tease them. I'm pre HRT so this could change, I can't comprehend it, but I'll keep an open mind. I would love to turn some heads and get a couple cat calls.
Oh I'm a pure lesbian, but I tease guys all the time especially in Wal-Mart and at the boat ramp. I have way too much fun doing it. It's okay as long as you don't let it go to your head, or do it in a way someone's (especially the poor guy) gonna get hurt.
Ally :icon_flower:
I will always be a lesbian, too. No matter how far I go with this. I like women and if I am ever passable, become one totally, too. If this makes sense! It does seem like it could be fun to tease some guy, though.
Quote from: Stephanie2 on July 07, 2014, 11:51:40 PM
I will always be a lesbian, too. No matter how far I go with this. I like women and if I am ever passable, become one totally, too. If this makes sense! It does seem like it could be fun to tease some guy, though.
In my case usually they get what they ask for. They initiate the teasing. And I'm not talking about anything beyond letting them look. I just won't let them touch.
Ally
I agree, Ally, us lesbians don't want to be touched by men!
There was one evening I got out of control in front of the mirror. I realized I was teasing my self. I didn't know what to think of it. This was a clear separation between what I was doing and what I was thinking as if I didn't have control.
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Gonna lock it now.