Not sure how I'll get my name and gender marker changed on my birth certificate when it's all the way down in Bolivia and my mother says it cannot be changed at all in that country. Looks like I can change everything in NYC except that.
Unless your mom is a lawyer I'd not take that as fact. The majority of people in my state don't know birth certificates can be changed.
Quote from: Missy~rmdlm on July 05, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
Unless your mom is a lawyer I'd not take that as fact. The majority of people in my state don't know birth certificates can be changed.
I know that it can be changed in the United States but my birth certificate is from Bolivia. I know that I'm also a US citizen by naturalization but I don't think that gave me a U.S. birth certificate either. If it didn't, this possibly means that I can never get married to a woman.
Maybe if you read through this some might help?
http://www.boliviabella.com/what-if-my-child-is-born-in-bolivia.html
Isabell
Check the laws in your state, but I don't believe you are required to supply a birth certificate to get married. Some people can't even GET a birth certificate due to weird circumstances. Another form of ID should be acceptable.
If you want to get married in another country, things might be quite different.
Quote from: Arch on July 05, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
Check the laws in your state, but I don't believe you are required to supply a birth certificate to get married. Some people can't even GET a birth certificate due to weird circumstances. Another form of ID should be acceptable.
If you want to get married in another country, things might be quite different.
Great, I will do that. Either way, looks like I have to forget about my Bolivian birth certificate.
Quote from: Blue Senpai on July 05, 2014, 02:29:25 PM
Great, I will do that. Either way, looks like I have to forget about my Bolivian birth certificate.
I know that it doesn't really help, but a lot of U.S. natives are in a similar situation and either can't get the BC altered or amended in any way or can get only an amendment that automatically outs them.
The difference, I suppose, is that these states might very well get their act together within my lifetime. I have no idea about Bolivia!
Quote from: Arch on July 05, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
I know that it doesn't really help, but a lot of U.S. natives are in a similar situation and either can't get the BC altered or amended in any way or can get only an amendment that automatically outs them.
The difference, I suppose, is that these states might very well get their act together within my lifetime. I have no idea about Bolivia!
Well, from what I've read in that Bolivian website, I might have a U.S. birth certificate since I am a naturalized U.S. citizen so there may still be hope. I'm just gathering information in advance since I haven't even started getting HRT yet and won't get it until October the earliest.
Hi there ,
For what it's worth, I'm in a somewhat similar situation here in France. I'm Irish by birth but am a naturalized French citizen. I'm in the process of having my French birth certificate changed (M to F) but this will have no impact on my Irish birth certificate on which I will remain male.
Since I live in France this has no practical consequence and I would imagine it must be the same for you in the US ie. now that you are naturalized what difference does it make what gender marker appears on a birth certificate you don't need any more?
Just for "fun" >:-) >:-) >:-), I did give some thought to having my long expired Irish passport renewed in which case I would potentially have a French passport saying I'm a woman and an Irish passport saying I'm a guy but, end of the day, I think I'll pass on that...
Wishing you all the best!
Donna
Here is how to go about chaninging your "US birth cert".
http://www.uscis.gov/iframe/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/Chapter10-22.html
In the UK it is easy to change your name and to get documents like your passport and driving licence changed. To get your birth certificate changed, you have to go before a panel and provide two sets of evidence that you intend to live as female for the rest of your life. This is usually post surgery.
Even if you are not a native born Brit?
Hi, I was also wondering about changing gender marker on birth certificates. Does it depend on what country it is and their own rules?
As I've mentioned on here before in the U.S. what a foreign birth certificate says is pretty much meaningless within the country, so don't worry if you can't change that. If you're a naturalized U.S. citizen what your naturalization certificate says is what counts (and for most functions in which they ask for your BC you'd present that, and not your foreign BC, if asked for one - at least when the question is whether or not you're a citizen). Same thing if you were born in a foreign country but inherited U.S. citizenship from your parents - the U.S.'s report of birth abroad is the one that counts when you're on U.S. soil. If you're a non-citizen it'd usually be what your foreign passport says (and when you're asked for a BC to prove your citizenship a U.S. passport is equally sufficient).
Basically if you have a U.S. (or U.S. state) issued birth certificate, report of birth, naturalization certificate, or passport with the correct gender then you're good to go as far as American law is concerned.
Quote from: Blue Senpai on July 05, 2014, 12:57:58 PM
I know that it can be changed in the United States but my birth certificate is from Bolivia. I know that I'm also a US citizen by naturalization but I don't think that gave me a U.S. birth certificate either. If it didn't, this possibly means that I can never get married to a woman.
You mentioned NY. You do know that same sex marriage is legal here, don't you?
Ok then, I was born in a different country but I have a naturalization certificate. Has anyone changed theirs?
Quote from: Dee Walker on July 18, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
You mentioned NY. You do know that same sex marriage is legal here, don't you?
I want a heterosexual marriage. I'm FTM. >:(
Quote from: Blue Senpai on July 18, 2014, 05:59:17 PM
I want a heterosexual marriage. I'm FTM. >:(
And?
Marriage is marriage, or should be. One type is no different from the other. YOUR marriage will be heterosexual because you and the lady you love are in it. MINE is lesbian, even though that wasn't legal then,because I and the lady I love are in it. What my birth certificate says doesn't matter and neither does yours.
Quote from: Dee Walker on July 18, 2014, 08:31:16 PMWhat my birth certificate says doesn't matter and neither does yours.
That's from your perspective. It apparently matters to him.
In addition, gay marriage is still "less than" and has not yet been given a full blessing from the feds.