Hello to a good group here. Without telling an entire life's story, here are some introduction points. I first noticed my feminine side when at a summer camp for boys, at a camp play at age 12, one female role was required. So they chose me, and I didn't object...it felt kind of nice to be dressed up in full makeup and dress etc. Lots of snickers and laughs, but I was okay with it. Age 14 and age 15 I sneakily sometimes tried on my aunt's bras when I visited her house. At a boarding school age 16 I had about 4 or 5 occasions in bed with a male classmate, although he seemed to enjoy it more strongly than I did, but it was okay. Age 19 I got the nerve to go into a dept. store and buy some bras, and tried them on in private...I kept them about 6 months, then threw the bras away. I mostly hid my feminine side from age 20 to age 53. Concentrated on work and studies mostly. Age about 47 I moved to Latin America, gradually learned excellent Spanish, married a Latin girl...we separated after a year and a half mostly disagreements about money, but I now have a beautiful blonde daughter age 6 who I have raised in my house 2 or 3 days a week for 5 years...her mother raises her on the other days. I have trained my daughter to be a fluent native speaker of English even though we live in Latin America. And she is fluent in Spanish, too. I am a teacher and businessperson; I have an MBA. I have been occasionally going out in public in push-up bras now since last year. For about 4 months I have had my toenails painted bright red most of the time. At the pool I wear diver's boots to hide them, but I have gone to the beach a few times now with my toenails painted bright red very openly, and my fingernails painted purple/pink. Mostly in public I am still in male mode, but sometimes I put on just a tad of blush and eyeshadow before going out as a male. At home I frequently wear a dress and bra and nighty. I haven't worn male underwear in more than 5 months as I only wear female underwear now. In the Latin country I live in, one can obtain strong pharmaceuticals totally openly without necessarily needing a prescription. They are the real deal, from reputable large international companies and domestic companies from where I live. I note that the rules here say I cannot list doseages, so I will respect those rules. I do NOT yet want to take anti-androgens...I want to try this with a strong estrogen and micronized progesterone and see if I continue to get the results I am seeking. So far, after 3 weeks of once a day (at bedtime) of these hormones...my nipples started staying constantly "at attention" after just 3 DAYS which was kind of amazing. My nipples now, after 3 weeks, poke out from my shirt if I hold my shirt tightly against my chest. I think I am rounder in my chest area now, just a bit. I know this isn't supposed to happen in 1 day, but I am happy with the results so far. Emotionally I feel TRANQUILITY. This is the biggest change I notice in how I feel. I feel a certain calm...that even with some occasional tough situations to deal with at work, or with my ex- about the raising of our daughter, and so on, I feel a certain CALM that I didn't have a month ago. The progesterone seems to make me a little sleepy, so I only take it at bedtime. My current girlfriend is quite supportive in what I am doing. My male "functionality" is significantly less compared with a month ago, but, hey, no complaints...it is still available but not very strong is what I find, and the incessant male "need", below, is much less intense compared with 3 weeks ago. I am not hiding anything about it from her. There are plenty of ways to super-satisfy a genetic female that don't involve the 'traditional" way of doing intimate things. Her pleasure is much more important than mine, in any case, and this I feel SUPER strongly. I think she likes how calm these hormones are making me, and that I can appreciate a female's feelings much better now. I find myself more sttracted to males now, but I haven't acted on this in the real world yet. I feel like a mixture of a very feminine male, or a "developing" girl...including when I am talking with my current genetic girlfriend. She is a 32B, and I hope that someday I might reach this, too (although because of my chest size, it would be 38B for me). But 38A will be fine, too, and 38A would allow me more easily for work to be a male when I want to, or need to. My 6 year old daughter knows about the woman's underwear and the painted toenails, but not about the bras or dresses. My girlfriend knows about all of these things as I feel honesty is the best way to go. I don't know if I will decide to continue these hormones "forever" but I think a minimum of 3 months of taking them should continue to produce results that I like about how I feel emotionally and developing breasts. At this time, I DEFINITELY and strongly want to continue to take the hormones. What a great community to share with! Johanna/John
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Now THAT was a fast reply VM...I think I will like it here.
Hi JJ, welcome to Susan's :)
Good to know that your hormones are of good quality, nonetheless, you should see a doctor at some point (soon). Endocrinology doesn't lend itself well to the do-it-yourself approach. Periodic blood work should be done, not just to monitor hormone levels, but also to detect possible negative effects on your liver and kidneys. Not trying to scare you, hon, just want you to be very aware of the risks. Also, you might find that talking with a therapist who has experience with trans* issues would be of great benefit.
That being said, enjoy the journey, sister :)
Thanks, ellie! I will consider what you said.
While it is true I don't feel what might be called "total gender dysphobia," I feel really nice that my feminine side is much stronger emerging.
I suppose that for work reasons I have to be careful. Probably my family in the USA would accept me if I went "all the way full time." Maybe not all of them, but at least important ones such as my sister. One of my female cousins in the USA came out as lesbian some years ago, and mostly my family accepted her still.
I am happy that my girlfriend here in the Latin country I live in seems quite accepting of my taking hormones.
My 6 year old daughter seems to get a kick out of the fact that we sometimes paint our toenails together. She teases me a little about wearing "girls underwear" and says "you are a mommy."
My answer to my 6 year old daughter is, "Yes, in many ways I am a mommy because when you are with me 2 or 3 nights a week in our house, I do everything that your mommy does for you in HER house the rest of the time, because I cook for you, wash the dishes, wash and hang up your clothes, but I also do things that daddies do, like work a lot so we have enough money."
The Latin country I live in is VERY "machista" with most men here feeling that "kids and cooking and laundry and cleaning are girls and women's work."
My daughter sees NO other genetic men doing what I do in terms of "girl's stuff around the house" -- not in THIS Latin country, anyway.
Your points about liver damage are well taken. I have read a lot about this. In part, for this reasonl I am only using micronized progesterone under my tongue for about 90% of it, and estradiol valerate under my tongue for 80% to 90% of it to avoid having to go through my digestive system. These seem to me to be the "purest" forms of the hormones, with the lowest risk...although I am not an MD of course. Thank you for your kind words.
I have no dreams about becoming a "hot female model" at my age, obviously...but I sure am starting to understand how genetic women feel in a firsthand way...
Not having the such "incessant" need for sex that testosterone brings is a new experience for me also...a change for the better, I feel. But stil available from time to time, but primarily attention to the needs and feelings of my girlfriend.
I still find, after 3 weeks on hormones, attraction to the breasts of genetic girls, but then I also feel that I msyelf want to have those breasts!
I feel somewhat more attraction to males, but I haven'e acted on that in the real world yet...my last intimate experience with a male was about age 16.
All I can say is, this is VERY interesting and, to this point at least, I want to keep going.
Well, it does sound like you have given this some thought. Bueno!
Concerning the level of acceptance you will enjoy, I can't say much about that, given that I am not intimately familiar with the social norms in your region. What I can tell you, is that even here in Ontario, where the Premier (the leader of our provincial government) is openly gay, where World Pride Week was just held, where SRS is fully covered under the government's health care plan, in a country where same-sex marriage is legal, even here, there are still haters. So, yes, you have to be careful. That being said, I am happy to report that things here are much better than they used to be, we have rules against discrimination and, by and large, the general population is accepting.
I also have no illusions about magically morphing into Jenna Talackova, given that I am 60, but I will happily settle for matronly elegance. I don't see many 60 year old women in bikinis at the beach, least ways, many who wear them well ;) While I regret my late start transitioning, I celebrate that I am on my way :D It's never too late. I recently heard a quote from an undercover policeman who, after a brilliant career, quit that work because, he said, "I got tired of not being myself." Me too.
Ellie, thanks again your comments. I am glad you are realistic in your goals. Yes, I am aware that Ontario is gay friendly and with lavish benefits for medical care which is great for you. Sure, matronly respect is something you can go for. You should be able to at least do THIS...maybe more!
I think I might be able to do better than only "matronly." My current genetic girlfriend painted my toenails bright red the other day, after I had to remove the toenail polish for an employment-related medical exam and I had to still be "fully male" for this medical exam.
Haters are everywhere. I say, live and let live. I do find it an easier subject to discuss with genetic girls than with genetic men. I am still a little embarrassed to talk about it with genetic men, but I have discussed what I am doing with various genetic girls. They seem sympathetic.
3 and a half weeks in, and I ALREADY have a body odor change. This is AMAZING to me.
In the hot Latin country where I have lived for years, body odor sweat in the heat has always been a significant problem for me. Deodorant doesn't help much...the only solution I have had is taking 5 or 6 showers a day for several years now.
But now all this has changed!!! I am SO happy about this! I expected possible body odor changes maybe several MONTHS into taking hormones. I am truly astounded that this has occurred in only a little over 3 WEEKS. No more ugly body odor. Just slight body odor, and it smells MUCH different than a month ago before hormones.
I don't know if my breasts have grown...hard to tell...but they seem to be ROUNDER.
Best of all...I am SO happy about this...my nipples are ALWAYS erect, my nipples are DEFINTELY taller and bigger...
And, just in the last couple of days, I have noticed a distinct mound starting to form between my nipples and my areolas...
WOWWWWW! I am SO happy!!!
I hope these "mounds" continue to grow over the next several weeks.
I am NOT yet shaving my chest hair as I did last year, because THIS time it would be a little embarrassing for me at the pool since I haven't fully "come out."
If I were to shave off my chest hairs right now, they would probably not fully grow back, and my nipples and small mound under my nipples would be VERY obvious at the pool.
Does anyone else have any comments about all this?
From reading your posts in this thread, it makes me smile at how excited you sound about the changes you're going through. I can't wait for the day I start testosterone, so I'm living vicariously.
I'd also like to add that I think it's awesome that your daughter is so young yet so accepting. I know there are people who don't think that children should be "exposed" to transitioning parents, but imo ignorance breeds ignorance. Your daughter is blessed, as far as I believe, to have this experience. It will make her that much more compassionate.
That GuySy, your comments are very thoughtful and nice. You are new, here, too...I am observing this site attracts some compassionate folks, of all different persuasions and stages, both with YEARS of experience, newbies, and "vicarious" folks such as you.
I am blessed to have such a wonderful daughter.
I am 56, but would love to have another daughter as I prefer girls. I might have to stop feminine hormones for a month or so, though, to make that a reality with the current genetic girlfriend. She WANTS a child...and is only 26 years old so is VERY capable of producing a child.
In some parts of Latin America, people aren't so uptight about big age differences between couples as they are in many more developed countries. It is quite frequent here to see substantial age differences in a couple, especially when the man is older and the woman younger.
Although, becoming at a minimum partly a woman, and maybe COMPLETELY a woman...well, that is so great, too....I am SO happy about all this!!!
I am having some recent positive developments in my work life, too...that are pending...
Welcome to the Forum Jahanna.
I am only on my 5th week and still no real noticeable changes. Still no breast buds for me. /pout...
Glad things are moving right along for you.
Luv Ginger...
Further, Cy, I simply feel that HONESTY is better.
I have a super intelligent, beautiful, 6 years old blond daughter. She is beautiful enough to be child model RIGHT NOW, perhaps...and when she is a teenager nearly for sure she could be a model. She tells me she WANTS to be a model...but she is also super intelligent...she is number one in her academic class at school in math, Spanish, and English. I have taught her super well since she was a baby, she has an insatiable appetite for learning, loves to "play teacher and student" with me in Math and English and Spanish.
I haven't told her yet about the bras or showed them to her, nor the dresses. But I opened in the house have my toenails painted bright red super feminine around her.
She still calls me her daddy, but she calls me a mommy, too, sometimes. She is handling it great.
Hi Ginger...I feel SO happy for you...I think these hormones are strongly affecting me psychologically, as I seem to be able to fully FEEL things in a way I certainly couldn't a month ago. How delightful! Wow! I am SO thankful!
Ginger...I have a question...are your nipples at least "standing at attention" always, or sometimes? For ME, this started happening after only 3 DAYS on these feminine hormones!!!
Or, at the very least, are you nipples a little more sensitive?
The only thing I hope and think I see is they are getting puffier and more firm. As for 24/7 pointy no. I WISH... OMG!!!... you are so lucky..
My skin is softer and I again think and hope my tush is getting bigger in hope of fat redistribution from my tummy to my hips and butt. OH YA!!!
P.S. you say you moved to Latin America, but from where?
I am Canadian...
I moved from the USA, but I have been to many parts of Canada many times in my life. Not the Maritimes, but every other province except NWT which I think got renamed to a Native name. I even went to the Yukon once...on the way to Alaska.
Yeah, they are pointy nearly all the time...it is AMAZING...these hormones are VERY powerful...and psychologically, too.
I had an interesting experience today.
Last night I did NOT take my female hormones for the first time in over 3 weeks, not because I didn't want to, but I may need to take a medical exam related to employment later this week, and I was thinking that maybe I should go a couple of days without female hormones to reduce the quantity of female hormones in my blood in case in this employment-related medical exam asks for a blood test, and they "out" me based on high levels of estrogen and progesterone and this in some way jeopardizes my employment. I may or may not have been correct to reason in this manner, but this was my reasoning.
But at mid-day today I felt REALLY anxious when I was doing some routine business errands that were delayed due to some mild incoimpetence on the part of some copy-center employees. I felt high levels of frustration at the time delays. I then thought to myself, I might feel more calm and normal again if I go ahead and take my customary daily amount of estradiol valerate and micronized progesterone.
So, about 1 pm at lunch hour at my house, I did just that. Basically, I took the dose I should have taken at bedtime the night before.
Not in 10 SECONDS, but within about 10 minutes or maybe a total of 15 to 20 minutes, I felt MUCH better. I felt normal again.
I felt calm and tranquil. I felt like I can handle things in life, even difficult things, in a nice way and intuitively make the best choices.
Maybe I am developing very quickly the NEED to think like a female a heavy part of the time.
I felt lost in late morning after missing my estrogen and progesterone the night before.
If they need to take a bllood test during the employment exam -- which they probably won't -- but if they do, maybe it still won't cause me employment problems.
The progesterone and estrogen in my system right now I am confident is helping me to feel SO happy right now about all this.
These are VERY powerful hormones. These are the "real deal" for absolute sure.
Although "intellectually" I came into this prepared for possible strong psychological changes, WOWOWOW to actually EXPERIENCE this first-hand is a WONDEROUS and marvelous experience.
I am SO positive and happy right now. These hormones make me feel SO happy and calm and right.
I am NOT against being a male...but man oh man I feel SO much more calm, no more obnoxious body odor after just over 3 weeks, protruding nipplies, small mounds staring to be VERY obvious among the chest hairs I still haven't shaved off yet......
Tonight, looking in the mirror after I put of some eyeshadow and lipstick in the privacy of my house (my daughter is staying with her mother tongiht), along with some blush...
I even noticed some JIGGLE in my breasts...my friends here, I have to tell you, wow, was I surprised...it wasn't MUCH jiggle, but I noticed it...
I don't think I was just imagining it...I have even nipple and mound development now that I truly belive it was genuine.
I felt VERY happy putting on some nice lipstick tonight, because typing this and going to bed.
Eyeshadow is my favorite makeup, though.
Do any of you like eyeshadow as your favorite makeup? Or do you prefer other things such as lipstick. I like a tiny amount of lipstick when I go out in public as a male at the present time -- not very noticeable -- but I don't feel quite right unless I usually put of just a litlle of pink lipstick...
I am using soft purple eyeshadow...It is a nice color, and softens my eyes some. I don't put much in public yet due to work etc., but I suppose if someone were to look very closely, they could see it. I feel calm about this, if they happen to see it.
It is difficult to describe the extreme happiness I am feeling right now, as some great things are happening in these weeks in my work life.
I now am feeling, as I type this, a little watering in my eyes, of happiness.
A month ago before hormones, NEVER would this have happened.
Have any of you gals had these types of feelings.
i feel like I want to SHOUT TO THE WORLD how great I feel.
My gosh, I cannot believe how powerfully positive psychologically these hormones are making me feel.
I am astounded. Do any of YOU other gals feel this way frequently, or at least especially early on in your hormones treatments?
I will now say HUGS to all you gals. Before yesterday, I had NEVER said the world HUGS like this in public forum.
NOW I feel so natural and normal and great to say it.
Kisses to all, and hugs too...
Sorry if this sounds "sappy" or something...I feel I must talk about how I am FEELING right now...
I think my brain is becoming more female....how else can I explain these great things that are happening to me, right in the midst of an incredibly busy work schedule...
I FEEL SO BLESSED...THANK YOU GALS FOR ACCEPTING ME...
So Happy for you....
Yes I prefer eye shadow and eye liner, but for lipstick I prefer thick GLOSS. Especially sparkly gloss. oh my... I am a huge fan
of sparkly things to begin with...
Wow I can't say I feel euphoric (I think that is what you might be feeling) when I take my estrogen (estrace), but I have read that some do.
I had hoped I would, but sadly no.
Okay Ginger, thank you so much. I will have to look into lip gloss, and learn more about it. Google is so great, you can learn many things, so I will learn about it.
I am old enough to remember a world without the Internet and even computer use was much more "primitive" than nowadays. It is hard to imagine a world without the Internet. The world is a SO much better place, overall, because of the Internet.
Pre-Internet, it would have been VERY difficult to share experiences with so many others on the subject of becoming more female.
I used to have to program punch cards into the VAX computer. Took hundreds and thousands of cards to do such simple picture.
I do agree the internet is good, but for me many things are not.
But for online shopping I wouldn't have all the things I have now.
There are definitely a lot of great people here at Susan's. I'm still a noob, but coming out of my shell, nonetheless.
You stories of your daughter remind me of the book "She's Not There," by Jennifer Boylin (Boylan? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
She talks about how her transition affected her kids, and how they eventually took to calling her Maddy, rather than mommy or daddy.
Again, I want to say how happy I am for you that the hormones you're on are having such a profoundly positive effect. I can imagine how stressful it was stopping them for employment reasons, but glad that you noticed a difference so quickly once you resumed taking them.
Oh and another quick note, I'm slightly jealous of the acceptance of age differences among couples where you're living. My last relationship was with a woman only 9 years older than me, but we got a lot of crap for it (mostly people thinking I was her son.)
Thanks, Sy. Regarding the age differences not getting anyone uptight here, sure, it is a nice advantage here, for couples.
Well, with kids it is indeed very interesting. My ex (my daughter's mother) doesn't know about the hormones yet...so we will see what happens. I just don't want any problems legally if my ex were ever to object to it regarding my ability to raise my daughter as a great mommy/daddy as I see it. Because my daughter is number 1 for me.
My daughter kids me about my usually painted toenails, and my "girl's underwear."
Well, the employment-related stopping was just for half a day, but I was really surprised at the degree of anxiety I felt. I didn't think it would be so strong. It was like my body was "crying out" to receive more female hormones.
I don't object as such to being male, but I feel SO much more calm with the female hormones inside me, it just feels SO right.
And I haven't worn any male underwear for something like 4 or 5 months. Only female underwear.
Today my nipples stood at attention most of the day. And that is happening without any necessity to touch them.
Thank you Sy for the book reference. Maybe I will look up that book.
Today was my third week on hormones as well c:
I wish you luck!
How wonderful for you Kitty!
All the very best to you...please have great success!
I'd be careful to have some future plans... because responding that early and well might mean that your days of being able to hide breasts are numbered.
(I had budding and pain on day 5, the constant erect nipples by week 2, and ended up having to come out at work a month before I planned b/c I was already 42C at 3 months and couldn't hide it anymore.)
Well, Jenna Marie...yes indeed I am not TOTALLY surprised by these results to far but to some degree surprised...like, WOW!
Wow, Jenna, at 3 months you had 42C...that is astounding although on the internet I have read of such results...I don't think it is the most common result, but from what I can tell it CAN happen.
Um, Jenna Marie...you are so right...cannot hide 42C...not a chance...
I could hide 38A I think, mostly, but not at the pool without a shirt...and at the pool where I live, guys cannot swim with shirts on, and girls have to have bikinis or one-piece female bathing suits...at the beach, I could still hid 38A by going swimming with a shirt on...
But I feel a strong desire to go to the beach where I am NOT known, in a bikini, if my breasts develop enough for that, naturally. Coming out at the pool where I live I am not quite ready to do that just yet. Maybe soon.
38B...hmmnn...my genetic girlfriend has 32B, and they are medium-sized and she cannot hide them (not that she would want to, of course). So, could I hide 38B? Can anyone help me with opinions about this? I think that it would be kinda hard to hid 38B???
Maybe with a jacket? But I live in a hot climate, so jackets aren't often worn here.
Does anyone know if in male mode if I get to 38B, could I still function as male for work purposes with tape or something, like I have read that some FTM transgenders do before surgery to remove their breasts?
Thanks so much for calling this to my attention.
I am about to sign a new employment contract at my University teaching job as a male, so any potential "awkwardness" I guess would maybe happen at mid-semster?
I mean, the 3 Academic Coordinators (head, and 2 Assistant academic coordinators, are are female.
More of the teaching profession are female than male, in any case. If I end up having to come out totally as female, I just hope the University would recognize that my great teaching abilities won't be reduced at all, just because my breast size increases (semi-pun intended, ha ha).
I am a great teacher, with great results for my University clients and private clients.
Jenna Marie -- wow...you had the constant erect nipples too -- and mine have been that way since DAY THREE...my niipples are nearly constantly erect since day 3...
I think my breasts are rounder now..they appear a little bigger, but could this just be chest shrinkage?
If this continues at this pace, I am thinking about at the end of 8 weeks total (4 and a half weeks more) to go to a bra shop and get a professional measurement.
I don't see any reason to be embarrassed...I would plan to say to the sales girl that I am taking female hormones, and can she accommodate a professional bra fitting for me? I would probably do it in a neighborhood where I am not know, though, at least the first time. Even if I only buy one bra, I would know precisely what my size is, professionally.
Today, looking at myself in the mirror, I noticed that parts of my face seem to have softer skin and smoother skin.
Now, because I think you gals and guys here deserve only total honesty from me, I will say I am not CERTAIN that much of my facial skin appears smoother and softer.
But it sure looks that way...:)
And this makes me feel SO happy!!!!!
Is it common, I wonder, to have this happen so fast? I would have expected this to take several months.
Jenna, I read on the Internet of one person who intended to stop taking female hormones after 2 months so the breasts wouldn't grow TOO big, but that person's emotions changed and that person didn't WANT to stop taking the female hormones after 2 months...
Then, the account continued on the Internet, that finally, when that person's breasts just kept growing and growing, at 3 months the person stopped...
But the person's body didn't stop the breasts from continuing to grow still another cup size during month 4, even without taking any more female hormones.
This was something I read on the Internet, and anyone can say anything on the Internet, but does this sound realistic to you gals and guys here?
It sounds plausible to me, but I am interested in some other opinions if you want to tell me.
For me, it could be VERY relevant for work purposes, because if I have breast growth to 38A large or 38B small and decide to stop so I can still hide them and work as a male, my body might decide it doesn't WANT my breasts to stop growing.
But, if I end up sometime soon getting results such as Jenna, probably I would just have to totally come out and be a great female teacher.
Quote from: kitty on July 09, 2014, 10:43:44 PM
Today was my third week on hormones as well c:
I wish you luck!
Kitty -- You are only 3 WEEKS on hormones, and already such a truly beautiful girl! You look amazing! What a result for you so far!
You deserve the largest breasts that you want, and I hope you get as large as you want!
I noticed yesterday, looking in the mirror, that my EYES seem softer. I COULD have been imagining things...but I don't think I was imagining this.
I think it probably (not for certain, but probably) is a physical REALITY. Wow! So wonderful!!!
I am starting to see a girl's eyes looking back at me in the mirror.
Just a bit.
But my entire eye area and skin around my eyes looks softer and more feminine. Is this my imagination?
Does anyone have any comments about that I think my eyes are changing some? Or is it just my imagination?
I would NOT recommend binding tightly the way a trans man does. That will break down breast tissue (obviously, a man doesn't care about that) and possibly permanently hinder development. A sports bra is not binding, though, and I had some luck with a sports bra with a T-shirt and then loose overshirt layered over it.
When you do go bra shopping, bear in mind that there is what's called "sister sizes," which means that as you go up a band size you'll go down a cup size and vice versa - the cup volume is the same in a 38B and a 36C, for example. (Which means your girlfriend is tiny, if she's a 32 band, but a 32A is a 34AA and then I don't know what as they don't get smaller than that. So one thing to keep in mind is that your 38B will be about three cup sizes bigger by volume than her 32B. And that means 42C is the same as 38DD, yes. I was professionally fitted as 38DD, in fact, but that's in expensive bras; in Lane Bryant's T-shirt bra I'm now wearing 42DDD after 4.5 years HRT.)
I would think that growth continuing after HRT is stopped is pretty unusual, but like you said, I got unlikely results, so who am I to say what's impossible. :)
Also, I had to stop going out braless after the first month, because that constant nipple erection means your breasts will be a) really visible and b) really female-shaped. So I'd be very careful about the beach if you plan to be braless under a shirt.
Great advice Jenna!
Now at more than 4 weeks. Today when I was the human resources dept. to sign my newest work contract, I noticed that my nipples were rather obvious poking through my shirt whenever my shirt was pressed tightly against my chest.
THIS IS AMAZING!
When I was with a group of 3 genetic female clients in early evening tonight, all 3 between about 27 and 35 years of age, I don't know if it was my imagination or not, but MAYBE a couple of the women were looking a little bit at my chest area...because my shirt was pulled kind of tight against my chest several times...
I looked down at my chest area a few times as we were talking, and it did SEEM that, maybe just maybe, there was s little bit of "biggest chest/breast area protruding" than before I started hormones 4 and a half weeks ago.
I cannot say for SURE
Whoops I think I hit "post" or something by mistake...I wasn't quite finished writing...
I honestly cannot say for 100% sure that my breast area in protruding more in my shirt...but it may well be, in fact...this MAY become more obvious very soon, as Jenna pointed out to me about a week ago here, since she grew breasts super fast in the first 3 months.
I don't know if I am getting growth THAT fast, but wearing a shirt that pulls tight sometimes, very shortly maybe this will become much more obvious.
I am very happy about this.
I may have to face some issues about what to do with work life...we will see.
If breast growth is significant, the "girls" become harder and harder to hide.
Just dont buy the smallest bra you can get right away...I bought a 70AA (Think thats a 32 in the US/UK for example) and that was already too thight.
Remember, you dont have a teenager's girl ribcage and your bewbs are still growing so think ahead
I dont have a cup yet but I can 'grab' them. I go bra-less for now, just wearing an extra top underneath too avoid much see-through
Quote from: YinYanga on July 18, 2014, 04:24:24 AM
Just dont buy the smallest bra you can get right away...I bought a 70AA (Think thats a 32 in the US/UK for example) and that was already too thight.
Remember, you dont have a teenager's girl ribcage and your bewbs are still growing so think ahead
I dont have a cup yet but I can 'grab' them. I go bra-less for now, just wearing an extra top underneath too avoid much see-through
Prior to hormones, in the past year or so, I have gone out in public with either of 2 push-up bras I already have, both are 38, and I think both cups on both bras are C, but on one of the bras possibly the cup is a B I don't recall.
I have already been out in public prior to hormones about 10 times in push-up bras.
One time, a female friend I was visiting dared me to wear my bright red 38C push-up bra all the way back home on a 20-hour bus ride. I did this. I made the entire trip with very obvious "girls" but it was the push-up bra, not real "girls" at that point.
I got many strange looks during this 20 hour bus trip, since I was otherwise dressed as a male. During parts of the trip I "partially hid" at least one "breast cup" using a jacket. But I couldn't really hide BOTH of my breast cups that the push-up bra caused.
Soon, I may now have the REAL THINGS.
Delightful!
Oh, I haven't had any erections for more than a week. The E and P are obviously SUPER powerful. No problem...I still feel attracted to the breasts of genetic girls, but now I also want these breasts for myself...
About a month before I started E and P 5 weeks ago, I answered the door to the 2 building maintenance men I needed to fix an electricity problem at the circuit breakers in my apartment.
When I opened the door, I forgot that I was barefoot...
And I had my toenails painted a lovely bright red with beautiful red nail polish.
The younger handyman said to the older handyman, in Spanish (I live in Latin America), "He has his toenails painted bright red!"
Yikes...I wasn't ready to come out in my apartment building yet...
So I let them all the way in to fix my circuit breaker, sent to another room for 30 seconds to put on socks and shoes, and walked back out to the kitchen where they were.
Not another word was said about it.
Hey, the world didn't come to an end. A little embarrassing I guess, but hey, I LOVE my bright red beautiful nail polish I have had on my toenails nearly all of the time for about 3 or 4 months now...
Usually it is hidden...but if I have an "accident" like that once in awhile...well, I guess the world will simply have to accept me as I am!
DELIGHTFUL!!!! ssoooooo GREAT!
Events such as this, though accidental, are helping me a lot...I don't feel horror or anything like that...more like quiet delight!
:)
Hair on my head feels smoother...and strangely enough, I have lost my desire to get a haircut anytime soon...I was NOT expecting this mental change in just 5 weeks...WOW.
I am 56. I am just 5 weeks in, on E in a pure form (estradiol valerate) and P in a pure form (micronized progesterone). I have spiro at my house, but I have NOT taken any spiro yet and I don't want ro until and unless it becomes absolutely necessary.
I have what I consider to be spectacular results so far.
My nipples are protruding and very large and always erect. I have many white bumps all over my nipple and areola areas. My nipples appear ready for a baby to nurse on them. I am happier than happy!!!
:)
My breasts are for sure more round and feminine now. I don't think they are a lot bigger yet, but yes a little bit, and my 6 year old daugher, for the first time ever, was staring at my breasts at the pool today, so SHE certainly notices the difference.
When I have a shirt on and it is medium tight against my chest area, my nipples are rather obvious now, poking through my shirt.
My former body odor problem totally disappeared within 3 weeks on hormones.
My facial acne has almost totally disappeared.
My hair is now growing longer a bit, again...remember I am 56, and I have a little gray...but now my hair on my head is of higher quality, and softer. The difference is astrounding to me.
I shared a great experience with my 6 year old daughter tonight...SHE painted my fingernails a bright red high-quality nail polish with some glitter in the liquid. She said "Daddy, that looks beautiful!"
MOST important, I am stunned at the significant psychological changes.
I have almost constant happiness. I seem to be able to handle even major work problems and personal relationship issues with a much more INTUITIVE FEEL and I am absolutely stunned at how great this is.
So, can high-quality, medical grade female hormones work starting at age 56?
I think my answer is super obvious.
All the best (and breast!).
Johanna
Tonight I was in a grocery store in the Latin country I have lived in for many years.
I am 6 weeks into estradiol valerate and micronized progesterone. My nipples and areola development is spectacular, with always protruding nipples that are now very obvious poker through my shirt. My breasts have started to develop a little...easy to notice this when I am shirtless...
But I don't have a LOT of breast development yet...
So, I gave the female cashier my credit card, but first I gave her the "grocery store discount membership number" of my ex-wife, since this gives her extra "spending credit points" on her account for free gifts so she doesn't object.
My ex-wife's name is Vicky, and I was alone with my blond princess 6 year old daughter.
The cashier enter my wife's ID number through the computer, and the female cashier, about age 30, said to me in Spanish (the national language here)...
"Mrs. Vicky...Oh, sorry...oh, ok, sir, I almost was about to call you "Mrs."
Wow am I amazed.
I mean, you can see my breasts a little through my shirt, and I have very obvious protruding erect niplles 24/7.
My hair is of much higher quality already, and it is starting to grow longer.
But I don't think that, overall, my facial features look THAT female after just 6 WEEKS on HRT.
What a pleasant surprise!
Maybe an accident, or "Freudian slip" on the part of the female cashier, hahahaha.
But, maybe a sign of things to come in the future...
When, maybe I might "male fail" and be seen as a female even when presenting as male.
Now THAT could end up being one extremely happy day for me in the future.
Wow am I happy with these hormones!
Long live our beloved estrogen and progesterone!!!
Your female friend experiencing Puberty 2.0 VERY fast...
Johanna.
Hugs to all, I AM FEMALE...
Gals, I am flabbergasted. Stupendously surprised. While presenting as male in a supermarket a couple of days ago, shopping with my 6 year old daughter in the Latin country where I live, I gave the "frequent shopper number" of my ex-wife the mother of my daughter to the 30 year female cashier to run through the computer so I could get the discounts -- my ex doesn't mind as it gives her extra points for free stuff...
The female cashier said in Spanish, the language here, "Mrs. Vicky -----, ma'am...omg, sir I am so sorry I thought you were Mrs. Vicky..." Um, wow. What can I say?
WOW AM I HAPPY!!!
Today, I was buying more micronized progesterone and estradiol valerate in a local pharmacy, and the about 30 year old female cashier was saying in Spanish to another store on the phone to "please bring me an extra estogen I have a woman here who needs an extra box" right in front of me.
The cashier stared at my breasts a bit, too.
I had NO makeup on, and I was dressed entirely in a male shirt and male pants. Bottom-down shirt. But my breasts and nipples are starting to get STARED AT by both males and females.
My nipples protrude totally obviously from my shirt. It is obvious I have small feminine breasts, if anyone looks closely enough. People ARE staring now.
My breasts are definitely bigger than just 1 week ago.
Today, in the mirror, I was STUNNED to observie that my neck has shrunk. Yes, it is very obvious, and I am not kidding. Does anyone know if this is typical? And the front of my neck near my Adam's Apple is smooth, like a girl's neck.
Today, I noticed that the palms of my hands no longer look like my age of 56. The palms of my hands are as smooth now as the palms of a 25 year old cis girl. INCREDIBLE!
My hair is starting to grow longer, I have LOST ALL DESIRE TO GET A HAIRCUT ANYTIME SOON. Maybe after it grows some more, I will have it styled in a unisex way so I can still work as a male for the time being, but go out with my daughter or cis girlfriend presenting mostly female.
Gals, my hair is now SMOOTH and soft. At age 56, I have a little gray but not too much fortunely.
Estradiol valerate and micronized progesterone are like a fountain of youth for my hair and hands.
Gals, listen to this...
My new lengthening hair is growing anew in my natural light brown hair color with ZERO gray!!!
I have found the fountain of youth.
Testosterone poisoning is horrible, gals. I am SO happy I am correctly this imbalance in my body with my correct female hormones that my body and my mind NEED for sure.
If my hair growth continues, I want to grow my hair to at least my shoulder blades, and it appears that just maybe it will be the natural light brown of my youth!!!
Can you believe this gals? I feel SO excited.
Maybe to work a little while long as a male at the University and with my private clients, maybe I could just put my hair in a ponytail like some macho guys do, and simply do it this way when working as a male.
Then, when I want to present as female in front of my daughter and cis girlfriend and her sister at my house, and/or go out as a female, I can simply let me hair flow free and natural.
Have any of you gals had results this tremendous, so early on HRT?
My former body odor problem disappeared 3 weeks into HRT. No more body odor.
Best of all, I can FEEL INTUITIVELY as a female.
All hail our beloved estrogen and progesterone, the key to aligning our emotional and physical states with our true female selves.
Love,
Johanna.
I AM FEMALE.