In Norway, where I live, it's not enough to just get a diagnose from a therapist/doctor/w/e.. We have to go to the capital to have meetings over a year with 3 people who are going to decide at the end of that year if you're qualified for hormones, and decide if you get the diagnose...
They are extremely 'tough' over there, and they are known for not being very humane....
100-200 people go there every year, but only 25 people get the diagnose and hormones... for the others they have to either get illegal or somewhere else idk what's up, they at least don't get their gender marker changed.
I'm afraid to go there now after hearing all the horror stories lol... But I'm probably gonna make it, because the ones that don't make it don't because of ''you're a mother, you can't be a guy if you didnt knew prior to having kids', and lots of other 'non-stereotypical' reasons that fit their frame.
I feel like it's much easier in some other countries, isn't it?
Quote from: ineverknewyou on July 11, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
I feel like it's much easier in some other countries, isn't it?
It's certainly easier in Canada.
Australia definitely. The hard part for me was getting on the hormones wanted to throw the psychiatrist out the window out a couple of times. Apparently though impression from a friend he will basically just write up your letter when it's time for SRS so...
It's a shame they haven't heard of the WPATH standards of care.
It needs to change. If access to hormones are so tightly controlled, lots of people will injure themselves by self medicating.
It will change only when the Trans community in your country speaks out (starting with you, maybe?). Until then, you're at the mercy of the neanderthals.
Quote from: ineverknewyou on July 11, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
In Norway, where I live, it's not enough to just get a diagnose from a therapist/doctor/w/e.. We have to go to the capital to have meetings over a year with 3 people who are going to decide at the end of that year if you're qualified for hormones, and decide if you get the diagnose...
They are extremely 'tough' over there, and they are known for not being very humane....
100-200 people go there every year, but only 25 people get the diagnose and hormones... for the others they have to either get illegal or somewhere else idk what's up, they at least don't get their gender marker changed.
I'm afraid to go there now after hearing all the horror stories lol... But I'm probably gonna make it, because the ones that don't make it don't because of ''you're a mother, you can't be a guy if you didnt knew prior to having kids', and lots of other 'non-stereotypical' reasons that fit their frame.
I feel like it's much easier in some other countries, isn't it?
Yes, im in norway currently and i always hated the system. It ridiculous hard, offensive and non-accepting of non-binary people. Good news is theres changings on the way with the gender neutral id and hopefully getting rid of the castration requirement. Amnesty is putting a presure, and norway can draw lines and compare themself to other scandinavian country to put on a presure from the t-comunitys. So norway is on a pretty huge presure to change it for the better as i see, we just need to keep pushing.
The question if other countrys are better really depend on which countrys you compare it with. If it sudan, iceland, spain, canada you would get diffrent results.
I will say it that way that there are unfurtunatly many country which is much worse than norway but ther is also place which is better.
Quote from: suzifrommd on July 12, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
It's a shame they haven't heard of the WPATH standards of care.
It needs to change. If access to hormones are so tightly controlled, lots of people will injure themselves by self medicating.
It will change only when the Trans community in your country speaks out (starting with you, maybe?). Until then, you're at the mercy of the neanderthals.
"Fun" thing is i seen expressions like standard of care and such being put in these kind of bad threatment as agument that there threstment is good, even thou the way have nothing to do with standard of care, it just a false kind of ethors because not many know so much of the transgender procces or standard of care anyway so it easy to say.
It not like the comunity is not working but things takes time
Yes, exactly.
It's going to take time.
But do any of you know if I go study in another country for like 3 years, do I get treatment there, or because I'm not a citizens there, I have to do it in my country?
In Canada with a student visa you would get health care after there waiting period .
I think Quebec's is 3 months, not sure what the other Providences are but not all pay for all GD services so you have to check each.
Izzy
Quote from: ineverknewyou on July 12, 2014, 01:06:08 PMBut do any of you know if I go study in another country for like 3 years, do I get treatment there, or because I'm not a citizens there, I have to do it in my country?
I apologise for only being able to offer vague guesses in relation to this and hope others can provide more definitive information but I believe other European Economic Area countries often do (must?) provide some forms of free treatment to people studying there for over a certain length of time.
In the UK, I think foreign people on courses lasting longer than six months tend to receive complete exemption from National Health Service hospital charges. Sadly, I don't know if that exemption only covers hospital treatment or also covers specialist care like Gender Identity Clinics. I hope other countries have similar or better schemes.
Most importantly, good luck finding a way to succeed in Norway's system, with contributing to changing Norway's system, or finding a country to study in that has a different attitude to treatment. I appreciate it's hollow but I'm truly sorry you're facing such obstacles and hope you can achieve the happiness you deserve as quickly as possible.