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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: chibiStephy on August 06, 2014, 11:45:32 PM

Title: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: chibiStephy on August 06, 2014, 11:45:32 PM
hello Everyone ^_^
          right now I have a doubt with the orchidectomy, I'm planning to have my SRS but this will happen in some years (lack of money  :( ) but i was considering the orchidectomy meanwhile I have enough money for my SRS, ok... but then I heard rumors like.

If you had an orchidectomy first you wont have enough skin to perform the SRS,
the SRS will be more difficult because they need to have the entire "part"

are these rumors true? I'm considering the orchidectomy in order to reduce the mount of medicine the HRT needs, I have at this point 4 years on HRT and I'm worry about all the meds I had been taking for all these years... my endocrinologist said that if I have a healthy life it won't be an issue but I'm not sure about it... so what do you think?  ???

I really would like to heard your comments about it.

have a great night    :D
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 07, 2014, 12:11:49 AM
The surgeon I am in touch with says these are not myths at all. I would wait for SRS if I were you.  :)
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: awilliams1701 on August 07, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
I that that was just removing the balls. Does the skin actually shrink? I would have though it wouldn't make any difference.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 07, 2014, 12:21:03 AM
Quote from: awilliams1701 on August 07, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
Does the skin actually shrink?
yes. It can be more than you think. It's like someone who diets. When they eat less the stomach actually shrinks until the diet is over or a big meal consumed. Some principal. If there is nothing in there the skin will contract because nothing is keeping it's stretched out. :)
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on August 07, 2014, 12:37:03 AM
I can tell you from personal experience that the skin shrinks like a frightened turtle.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: chibiStephy on August 07, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Thanks Jessica and Laura, I really though it was just rumors about that,  but looks like I was wrong about it, I guess I will wait until my SRS

(taking my pills now  ^-^)
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on August 07, 2014, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: chibiStephy on August 07, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Thanks Jessica and Laura, I really though it was just rumors about that,  but looks like I was wrong about it, I guess I will wait until my SRS

(taking my pills now  ^-^)

I couldn't afford GRS in a million years, so I had the orchi and that's that.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: alabamagirl on August 07, 2014, 01:24:09 PM
I could have sworn I saw someone on this forum claim their surgeon said they could still have SRS after having the orchidectomy... Maybe it depends on the surgeon? I would definitely ask your surgeon themself to get a definitive answer.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Hikari on August 07, 2014, 01:26:04 PM
I know this would make the procedure more expensive which kinda defeats the point, but are there not testicle implants for FTMs and men who have lost one but want to keep their appearance? I mean if there were silicone testicles then wouldn't that prevent the scrotal skin from shrinking and keep it for use in a later SRS?
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Hikari on August 07, 2014, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: Pikachu on August 07, 2014, 01:24:09 PM
I could have sworn I saw someone on this forum claim their surgeon said they could still have SRS after having the orchidectomy... Maybe it depends on the surgeon? I would definitely ask your surgeon themself to get a definitive answer.

My understanding is that you can always have SRS, the problem comes into the fact that if you don't have enough skin to use, they might have to take skin off of your thigh or do a sigmoid colon vaginplasty which not everyone does
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on August 07, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Hikari on August 07, 2014, 01:26:04 PM
I know this would make the procedure more expensive which kinda defeats the point, but are there not testicle implants for FTMs and men who have lost one but want to keep their appearance? I mean if there were silicone testicles then wouldn't that prevent the scrotal skin from shrinking and keep it for use in a later SRS?

Yeah, I've heard a few people mention that here on the forums and in the chat. I never bothered with that, myself.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: mrs izzy on August 07, 2014, 01:54:48 PM
This is a Dr. Brassard observation.

1 being i was on hormones for 13 years before my GRS he said he might have to use donor thigh skin for enough material to make the neo vagina. It is taken from the inside of the inner thigh. I did not needed but i told them before to do what ever was needed.

2 when i was there in January to visit one of the girls there, young only 24 ish had a orchie done when she turned 20. Her GCS was done with the thigh skin donor site. She had 2 very large sections removed from one of her legs. So now not only having GCS scars she had these 2 very large scars that would be on her inner thighs. (almost maybe just a little smaller then the ones they harvest for the transmen when they have there phallo.)

So if you can wait i would do it. If its due to a medical condition the i would have it done before hand.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: annietsin on August 17, 2014, 01:59:17 AM
The biggest advantages of orchi come from the reduced cost a damage caused by the higher hormone and blockers required with the evil twin hanging there.. Also of all the GRS surgeons I spoke to only one said he would not do SRS if orchi has already been done all the others simply said that it will be mor expensive as donor material might need to be harvested. That said some of the surgeons have recommended stretching the skin on a daily basis may not require other doner material.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Emmaline on August 17, 2014, 02:33:41 AM
I think I will get one because of the pains I get and that I am a DES victim, so get cysts and potential cancer risks.  I suspect I can handle being non op... or wait for better tech.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: justpat on August 17, 2014, 07:38:50 AM
   I am with Emmaline on this as I am also a DES son and in my 60s .My biggest cyst is 5.2 cm with smaller ones present and had pain since my late teens.Have been to the doctors many times about this ,they would never do anything, said we think yada yada! Yes it is practicing medicine. Finally found out AFTER hitting the wall what they were caused by. Am now waiting for an ORCHI by the VA.
  Yes the skin does shrink but at my age time is not my friend when it comes to GCS anyway. :(
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Emmaline on August 18, 2014, 08:02:18 AM
What really hurts is paying specialists to tell you 'non specific orchitis'- which basically means 'we don't know'- 'here is our bill'.  That's the real kick in the nuts.

Any horizon on grown grafts for labioplasty?  I really don't want to hold off orchi and implants would feel like a step back.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: tgchar21 on August 18, 2014, 08:18:36 AM
Yes the scrotal skin will shrink, but how much of a negative that will be depends on how much other skin in the area you have. Not being circumcised is an advantage, and likewise if your penis is longer than average.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: awilliams1701 on August 18, 2014, 01:34:07 PM
Would.it be possible to get this procedure and get implants to replace them to prevent the skin from shrinking until you get your SRS?
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: janetcgtv on August 18, 2014, 04:19:01 PM
Sorry that was me who said there was enough material to form a vagina after an orchie was done.
I saw this on the TSRoadmap web site and on the GENDY conference in 1996.
Most other web sites state that there will NOT be enough material for a vagina after an orchie was done.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: mrs izzy on August 18, 2014, 04:29:18 PM
As i said in my earlier post, it will all come down to what the doctor says when you have your consultation.

Everyone is there own depends on if the surgeon that does your orchie did the least amount of damage and what they removed.

So again the best advice is if you are planning on having GCS stay away from the orchie, if you think GCS is 10 years down the road or never then do the Orchie.

There are always methods to harvest skin for the neo vagina lining, just they like to use the scrotal skin being it already holds some elasticity.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on August 18, 2014, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: mrs izzy on August 18, 2014, 04:29:18 PM
As i said in my earlier post, it will all come down to what the doctor says when you have your consultation.

Everyone is there own depends on if the surgeon that does your orchie did the least amount of damage and what they removed.

So again the best advice is if you are planning on having GCS stay away from the orchie, if you think GCS is 10 years down the road or never then do the Orchie.

There are always methods to harvest skin for the neo vagina lining, just they like to use the scrotal skin being it already holds some elasticity.

This is why I had it done. I could never afford it in a million years.
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: chibiStephy on August 20, 2014, 08:31:04 PM
I really appreciate all your comments about this issue, I guess it was really helpful for more than one person, my final decision about this is wait for my GRS and keep with the most healthy life I can. I will try not to hold any longer than 5 years more  :-\

Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Jill F on August 20, 2014, 09:11:22 PM
I had an orchi last month because I could tell my T was still too high for my taste and I didn't want to take any more AAs or E.  I also hated the nuts with a passion and didn't want to wait for SRS to tank my T for good, which is still at least a year off.  I'm developing much more rapidly now because of it.

My orchi was done by a noted SRS surgeon who saw no problem with finishing the job at a later date with good results.   I stretch out the tissue every day and make sure I get fully hard a couple of times a week.  It's my "dilation" schedule. LOL

I don't have enough colon left for a colovaginoplasty and don't want scars on my thighs, so if I end up with less depth, meh.  I'm mostly into girls anyway (married to one), so if I want to be penetrated, it'll have to be a guy who isn't well hung or by a "Ronnie James Dildo".

Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on August 20, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: Jill F on August 20, 2014, 09:11:22 PM
a "Ronnie James Dildo".

:D :D
Title: Re: myths on orchidectomy
Post by: awilliams1701 on August 21, 2014, 06:38:38 PM
I hate the dildo more than the nuts myself.