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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Coming out of the closet => Topic started by: Eva Marie on August 08, 2014, 09:49:20 PM

Title: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Eva Marie on August 08, 2014, 09:49:20 PM
And it went quite well I thought.

I first came out to the CEO (A lady) and she accepted the news very well, asked intelligent questions, and gave me a hug afterward- wow, i've never seen her show affection toward anyone! She also seemed tickled to have another female on the engineering staff. Win #1, because if the CEO is happy everyone is happy.

I then visited HR and gave the HR lady a letter and she also took it well and was happy for me. Win #2.

Last, i came out to my boss. He was absolutely shocked and speechless. He apparently doesn't know anything about TG people and he had a hard time wrapping his head around the idea. He wasn't hostile or anything but I think he's going to reserve judgement. He is a good guy and a great boss and I think he'll come around.

So, 2 out of 3 ain't bad  :)

I'm coming to work as Eva on Sep 17th.
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: rosinstraya on August 08, 2014, 10:03:47 PM
Congratulations! I hope it continues to go well for you.  :)
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: mrs izzy on August 08, 2014, 10:07:38 PM
Congrat Eva,

Does the happy dance with you.

Take it as it comes with your boss, I had to help mine back when i was working come to understand. He was supper supportive.

Hugs
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: awilliams1701 on August 08, 2014, 10:10:17 PM
Congratulations.

Sounds like your just a few steps ahead of the same path as me. I've talked to a lady in HR and my project manager (who might as well be the facility CEO) both are very supportive. My project manager has actually had a trans neighbor and the HR lady has delta with this before. We are going to take me public next week and that will be it. I'm out everywhere else now. So far only 2 of my 3 sisters have given me any real problems.
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: justpat on August 08, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
   YES! (big fist pump ) way to go Eva congrats !
  I remember when I went full time in July of 2013.The Va takes care of me and I said if I can walk in there at 6'6"  dressed as who I am in front of all those brave men I can do this anywhere.End of story, and I am ssssoooo happy now and still coming out to people that I don't see very often.Hugs and smiles and asked are you happy and you sure smile a lot  :)   BTW I brought all the nail colors you have shown and love them.   Patty
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Bombadil on August 08, 2014, 11:16:22 PM
I'm glad it went well. I bet your boss will come around. I came out to everyone a few weeks and it's going amazingly well. I hope it  keeps going well for you too
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Ms Grace on August 08, 2014, 11:25:38 PM
That's great news, Eva. Congrats! It sure can be a nerve wracking experience but such a relief to get it over and done with.

So...the big day beckons! Is this ahead of schedule or more or less when you had planned?
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Eva Marie on August 08, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: Ms Grace on August 08, 2014, 11:25:38 PM
That's great news, Eva. Congrats! It sure can be a nerve wracking experience but such a relief to get it over and done with.

So...the big day beckons! Is this ahead of schedule or more or less when you had planned?

I really had no schedule for this Grace, other than to put it off as long as possible  :D

Many things came together recently and I knew it was time to take the next step. Luckily it wasn't a step off a cliff.
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 08, 2014, 11:29:07 PM
< covers ears for explosion> :-\

Hey, no BOOM! Congrats Sis!! :)
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: ClaudiaLove on August 08, 2014, 11:31:40 PM
Congratulations Eva 

These are great news , you must be so excited and relieved :)
I wish you all the best In the future  ,  your posts give me inspiration and motivation  .
Title: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Kassie on August 10, 2014, 03:39:21 AM
Congratulations if more people were just more excepting
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Kaelin on August 10, 2014, 03:43:01 AM
Congratulations and good job. :D
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Joan on August 10, 2014, 06:57:10 AM
Congratulations, Eva! I'm really glad it went so well and I'm sure your boss will come around.
When do you start?
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Eva Marie on August 10, 2014, 09:35:45 AM
Quote from: Joan on August 10, 2014, 06:57:10 AM
Congratulations, Eva! I'm really glad it went so well and I'm sure your boss will come around.
When do you start?

Joan-

My court date for my name & gender change is Sep 15th. I carry a purse into work on Sep 17th. Management in my company (my company has about 50 employees in it's local office) will be informed but no one else will. I think that they are planning a refresher course on the company's sexual harassment policy and gender will probably be touched on. And i think that the CEO is planning to send out some kind of email talking about whats going to happen closer to those dates but not specifically naming me. When I go AWOL on the 12th people will know who it is.

I have suggested that I meet the management team soon in female mode for lunch somewhere so that they can see me and get their curiosity satisfied and the CEO thought that was "an excellent idea".

I don't plan to get any work done on Sep 17th since the carpet outside my office is going to be worn out by the people coming by to gawk at me  :D
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Shantel on August 10, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: Eva Marie on August 10, 2014, 09:35:45 AM
Joan-

My court date for my name & gender change is Sep 15th. I carry a purse into work on Sep 17th. Management in my company (my company has about 50 employees in it's local office) will be informed but no one else will. I think that they are planning a refresher course on the company's sexual harassment policy and gender will probably be touched on. And i think that the CEO is planning to send out some kind of email talking about whats going to happen closer to those dates but not specifically naming me. When I go AWOL on the 12th people will know who it is.

I have suggested that I meet the management team soon in female mode for lunch somewhere so that they can see me and get their curiosity satisfied and the CEO thought that was "an excellent idea".

I don't plan to get any work done on Sep 17th since the carpet outside my office is going to be worn out by the people coming by to gawk at me  :D

That's how it should go for anyone in the workplace these days, people in management positions are being enlightened over the last year or so. Congratulations Eva!
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: LizMarie on August 10, 2014, 12:19:41 PM
Congratulations, Eva! That sounds like it went very well. As for your boss, it sounds like he'll have to deal with the CEO and HR. :P
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Jill F on August 10, 2014, 01:57:42 PM
Awesome. Just. Awesome.

Mega-congrats on making that move, Eva.  My life was markedly improved once I shed the mask once and for all, and I hope yours is as well.
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Joan on August 10, 2014, 05:53:21 PM
Quote from: Eva Marie on August 10, 2014, 09:35:45 AM
Joan-

My court date for my name & gender change is Sep 15th. I carry a purse into work on Sep 17th. Management in my company (my company has about 50 employees in it's local office) will be informed but no one else will. I think that they are planning a refresher course on the company's sexual harassment policy and gender will probably be touched on. And i think that the CEO is planning to send out some kind of email talking about whats going to happen closer to those dates but not specifically naming me. When I go AWOL on the 12th people will know who it is.

I have suggested that I meet the management team soon in female mode for lunch somewhere so that they can see me and get their curiosity satisfied and the CEO thought that was "an excellent idea".

I don't plan to get any work done on Sep 17th since the carpet outside my office is going to be worn out by the people coming by to gawk at me  :D

Sounds like they have it all in hand :)
It's really great that they are being so proactive about your transition at work. I'm sure you can't wait for the next five weeks to pass :D
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Just Shelly on August 10, 2014, 10:21:07 PM
I'm very happy for you!! :) Life is treating you well :)

I will say this though, don't try to rush things with your style of dress, this can be difficult since you don't want to look like you don't know how to dress nice for a woman, and you don't want to look like you don't know how to dress as a woman. Sounds confusing, but you will soon understand what I mean! lol  I think it helps people accept the change easier if things are done gradually and not over exaggerated. Like I said this can be difficult....hell you now get to dress like you were suppose to, you want to wear what any other woman would be able too.

Just my advice, definitely not trying to rain on your parade at all!! Just want to help you make the transition as easy as possible. Which is easier to said than done :) but it looks like you have a great start!!
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Eva Marie on August 10, 2014, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: Just Shelly on August 10, 2014, 10:21:07 PM
I'm very happy for you!! :) Life is treating you well :)

I will say this though, don't try to rush things with your style of dress, this can be difficult since you don't want to look like you don't know how to dress nice for a woman, and you don't want to look like you don't know how to dress as a woman. Sounds confusing, but you will soon understand what I mean! lol  I think it helps people accept the change easier if things are done gradually and not over exaggerated. Like I said this can be difficult....hell you now get to dress like you were suppose to, you want to wear what any other woman would be able too.

Just my advice, definitely not trying to rain on your parade at all!! Just want to help you make the transition as easy as possible. Which is easier to said than done :) but it looks like you have a great start!!

Hey Shelly-

My business is very work causal - jeans, wedges, and a nice top will be perfectly acceptable which is nice because that's right up my alley. As an example of how casual it is there is a guy that shows up in hiking shorts and hiking boots each day, and the women tend to show up in jeans mostly except for the women in management; they tend to step it up a few notches. Gotta love California!

I don't own a dress and most skirts are problematic because of the dangly thing which causes a bulge if everything is not tucked in well. Hopefully that will get taken care of some day.



Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Shantel on August 11, 2014, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: Eva Marie on August 10, 2014, 11:10:30 PM
Hey Shelly-

My business is very work causal - jeans, wedges, and a nice top will be perfectly acceptable which is nice because that's right up my alley. As an example of how casual it is there is a guy that shows up in hiking shorts and hiking boots each day, and the women tend to show up in jeans mostly except for the women in management; they tend to step it up a few notches. Gotta love California!

I don't own a dress and most skirts are problematic because of the dangly thing which causes a bulge if everything is not tucked in well. Hopefully that will get taken care of some day.

Shelly has great taste in what works!

So you're a California girl, I'm two states north of you and most women dress as you described here on a day to day basis including myself, perhaps we'll call it west coast casual.
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Just Shelly on August 11, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
Please don't take any offense in my advice! It wasn't intended on how to dress, but more so how not to go overboard. It seems the ones that have problems with people accepting them more freely at work are the ones that go from dull guy mode to Barbie mode. This doesn't mean their all dolled up, it just means they are wearing a bit more accessories and different styles than other women in the work place.

You actually may have it harder with being a business casual, you need to look clean and proper but don't need to overdress. This can be hard for any female, for someone that is new...it can be even more challenging.

I was lucky, for one I didn't have to come out at work.....and I am able to wear casual. I get to really mix it up, if I want. I could...if I wanted to even wear a skirt....but never had the inkling too.

I guess what I am trying to say is that its hard to dress early on...and not just for work. For me, I didn't want to look too girly (though inside me I did) but I also didn't want to look slobbish. When I was in the in between stage I also had this same feeling, but it came after being gendered female. Often I would look more male than female, only to be gendered female...I would then feel crappy cause if they thought I was female, I sure looked like a pretty crappy one.

It took me a year of ft before I wore outfits that were more form fitting....I knew I had the figure for it but was too afraid to show it. My wardrobe staples now consist of skinny jeans, capris, nice tee's, other knit tops (mostly fitted) and flats and tennies. I do dress it up a bit on weekends or on a date, and love to wear dresses and skirts if I have the chance. I now dress much better for my figure, but it took me awhile....not only to learn but to have the nerve!

I think you will do fine....especialy if you don't overthink things like I do often :)
Title: Re: I pulled the pin and came out at my work
Post by: Eva Marie on August 15, 2014, 12:58:15 AM
Quote from: Just Shelly on August 11, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
Please don't take any offense in my advice! It wasn't intended on how to dress, but more so how not to go overboard.

No offense was taken Shelly  :)

I have been carefully scrutinizing how the women at work dress for some time. A lot of the women at my level dress casual with jeans, wedges or heels, and casual tops, while some of the upper management women femme it up quite a bit - one director is a very notable fashion plate and I have been quietly lusting over what she wears for quite a while now. The CEO of the company is a female and she tends to not dress very fancy. So.... i don't think that anyone will really care what I wear as long as it isn't revealing or unprofessional. I have been working on a wardrobe for quite a while and I have some pieces that I think will be perfect for work, but more shopping remains to be done over the next 4 weeks to fill some gaps. I plan to buy more of the same style of clothing that I already have and I will save the suits and really stuffy professional clothes for another day when my budget recovers  :D

I do see what you mean though - it is entirely possible to go bonkers with the clothes and makeup and make quite a spectacle of yourself. I'll already have quite enough attention on me so I ain't gonna do that  :o