Would being betrothed and wearing a diamond wedding band be the ultimate symbolic completion of your womanhood?
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 12:36:02 AM
Would being betrothed and wearing a diamond wedding band be the ultimate symbolic completion of your womanhood?
No. It would mean a nice chunk of money for me. ;D
I personally can't get away from the idea that wearing a diamond wedding band means I'm someones (eh male) property in a sense. I'm socially conditioned to see the act of giving a wedding band as an exclusively male right.
It might be nice to receive one from a woman being I'm a lesbian. But the whole idea still seems awkward.
Look at your pretty hands lady's. Now imagine a diamond ring on your ring finger. How does it feel?
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 01:03:37 AM
Look at your pretty hands lady's. Now imagine a diamond ring on your ring finger. How does it feel?
Annoying! :D
Jewelry on my hands just gets in the way of things. Bracelets, necklaces however...
Funny, yet absolutely true.....
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 01:03:37 AM
I personally can't get away from the idea that wearing a diamond wedding band means I'm someones (eh male) property in a sense. I'm socially conditioned to see the act of giving a wedding band as an exclusively male right.
No woman is anyone's property except her own.
QuoteIt might be nice to receive one from a woman being I'm a lesbian. But the whole idea still seems awkward.
Seems reasonable to me..
QuoteLook at your pretty hands lady's. Now imagine a diamond ring on your ring finger. How does it feel?
It means whoever bought it doesn't know as much about me as they think they do. Emeralds, rubies, sapphires are more my sort of thing. You might tempt me with a coloured diamond.
True love <3
"Diamonds are girls' best friends" :D loljk, I like jewels but prefer if they are offered by someone meaningful. Stuff gets more beautiful when it has affection attached to it :)
No, I have been engaged since before I began my transition and neither of us wears a ring.
The ultimate symbolic completion of my womanhood has already come, and it's the compliments I get from cis women about my hair, eyes, and clothes.
Quote from: karina13 on August 24, 2014, 02:19:32 AM
Funny, yet absolutely true.....
LoLz. Yeah something is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
Guys like expensive cars. Women like expensive diamonds. :D
The diamond really is just another form of currency. I have more faith in a bag of diamonds retaining its value than a Ferrari.
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 02:28:33 AM
LoLz. Yeah something is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
Guys like expensive cars. Women like expensive diamonds. :D
The diamond really is just another form of currency. I have more faith in a bag of diamonds retaining its value than a Ferrari.
Lol. Agreed. Cars suck. I would rather have to money to buy some jewels and keep than buy a new car every 2 years.
Quote from: kelly_aus on August 24, 2014, 02:20:32 AM
No woman is anyone's property except her own.
Seems reasonable to me..
It means whoever bought it doesn't know as much about me as they think they do. Emeralds, rubies, sapphires are more my sort of thing. You might tempt me with a coloured diamond.
Interesting point. How much customary value and meaning of commitment a diamond ring bears depends on your own perspective and your value of the givers intentions I guess.
Karina, I was going to post that same video. You beat me to it! :)
When I do go full time, I definitely want to have a more feminine wedding ring. And having thought about it, I think I do want the traditional look of matching engagement ring and wedding band. Although I'd be perfectly happy with cubic zirconia...it's really just about the look and feel. Not too big, just tasteful and feminine. After all, blending in is about the details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIAEAVKcKrs
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi58.tinypic.com%2F2w33rsp.jpg&hash=6c22be44388699da798eb73c70ae0a5d5374b059)
Evelyn looks at ring finger. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi61.tinypic.com%2F2afkdck.jpg&hash=fca5a15e315c63e8ef5177ea563f4da13e83c24c) Evelyn wants.
I don't see the deal with diamonds. Silver, brass, emerald, sapphire, coloured cheap crystals and whatnot look nicer for about 1/200th of the price.
And whoever said "diamonds are bull->-bleeped-<-" was wrong, because you can use bull->-bleeped-<- as fertiliser.
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 01:03:37 AM
I'm socially conditioned to see the act of giving a wedding band as an exclusively male right.
It might be nice to receive one from a woman being I'm a lesbian. But the whole idea still seems awkward.
Here in Europe it's long been traditionally acceptable for a woman to propose on the 29th of February. I think the idea is that if the man hasn't gotten around to it in 4 years then it's time to take matters into your own hands :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc.tadst.com%2Fgfx%2F600x400%2Fmarriage-proposal.jpg%3F7&hash=f1dc9169924c752952821a131975e9146ba61aeb)
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 12:36:02 AM
Would being betrothed and wearing a diamond wedding band be the ultimate symbolic completion of your womanhood?
I don't know whether I'd say "ultimate" but it would be a very powerful symbol.
Specifically a wedding band versus an engagement ring?
I wear a plain narrow gold wedding band (and in fact, we bought me a "ladies" ring back when we originally got married, b/c the men's bands weren't as narrow as I wanted, so I had one that's identical to my wife's except a half-size bigger). I used to wear a platinum band that I had used as my engagement ring, but when I transitioned, we bought me a gold channel-set diamond ring that *also* exactly matches my wife's. Neither of us likes diamond solitaires b/c we're clumsy and catch them on things.
To be perfectly honest, whenever I look at my hand and think about what it MEANS - remembering the day when my spouse accepted me and my transition enough to declare that her wife was going to be wearing the same gorgeous engagement ring she did so we could declare to the public that we are married to each other - it makes me a little sniffly even now. Besides, if the ring made me her property, the same would be true of her ring, and belonging *to each other* is part of what marriage is about for us. ;)
(ours look a lot like this, although we got them elsewhere : http://www.kay.com/en/kaystore/engagement---wedding/diamond-anniversary-band-1-2-ct-tw-round-cut-14k-yellow-gold/100006/100006.100007.100011 )
It would mean that I got to wear a beautiful flowing dress, it would mean I never have to sleep alone again. It would mean someone is madly in love with me and I with him. It would mean I have butterflies in my stomach. It would mean everything.
But I don't now about it being the completion of my womanhood. I only need to do one thing for that to occur. But it certainly ould complete me. Oh, and then if we adopted a baby. YAY!
without seeming unromantic I'd rather have a condo with sole title in Telluride Colorado
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 12:36:02 AM
Would being betrothed and wearing a diamond wedding band be the ultimate symbolic completion of your womanhood?
No. I don't think it would. While I would love to be married (to a woman) and I would love to be able to wear a proper dress to my wedding, I don't really see a diamond ring as being a big symbol of that.
Perhaps it is due to the fact that, in my last marriage we used silver and rubies, but diamonds have never had the significance to me that they seem to have to others. I also don't really feel that I need someone else for the completion of my womanhood, only for my own happiness do I need someone.
Never had a diamond ring, not worth the money. Tried the married bit a few times though.
its a trap!!!
That's been pretty much my mindset on it for the last 21 years.
the same thing as before transition; A stereotypical social custom indicating engagement and marital status. An oversold item by jewelers and romantic fiction writers. It means nothing to me relative to being a complete woman. Most women i know don't wear them. I would rather have love than any symbolic item.
I would love to someday wear a diamond wedding ring and that would mean I get to be a bride.. And wear a lovely wedding gown
A friend of mine recently got married, I was a brides maid.. And I remember looking at her and saying wow.. I was also a little jealous.. I loved her dress..
And I started designing my wedding gown in my head like most young women do.. Now I just need the man.
"Will you marry me?"
Yes! Now let's go return this so we can afford rent.
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 12:36:02 AM
Would being betrothed and wearing a diamond wedding band be the ultimate symbolic completion of your womanhood?
No. I am married to a woman and have worn a wedding set for four months now. The legal name and gender change were much more symbolic, but I have come to realize that I have really been female since day one. Everything else is just trappings.
And yes, it's a cubic zirconia.
If I was younger and single I would have wanted one. It's not about the meaning though. I like the look. It's beautiful.
Quote from: katiej on August 24, 2014, 02:46:08 AM
Not too big, just tasteful and feminine. After all, blending in is about the details.
That's what it does for me, my fiancé gave me a diamond engagement ring when we got engaged a few years ago, I wear it with my wedding band, I just blend in now as another married woman, the girl at the nail salon often admires it when I'm getting my nails done, it's tasteful and feminine.
Awwww sooo romantic!!! :) I would love for a man to put a ring on me! I've dreamt about it forever!
Well, it all depends on how big the diamond is. A half carat and above, "I think , Cha Ching. I finally hit the jackpot." Less than half and I really hope he is extremely cute and caring. ;) But a half carat and above, he don't have to be that cute or even caring for that matter, just rich. ;D Sorry but I do love diamonds.
It's vulgar profligacy. I do not own any jewellery of precious metal or stone, and do not ever intend to, except perhaps for investment reasons. I don't even own any clothes with labels. Being the poor kid amongst rich folk at high school put paid to that. Now, I'm laughing. :laugh:
No, it wouldn't be the "completion of my womanhood." I don't need a man to validate my womanhood, any more than a man needs a woman to validate his manhood. Just being seen as female, especially by other women, is more than enough for me to feel like my womanhood is complete, completely irrespective of relationship status or surgical status or any of those other artificial statuses.
A ring would be a wonderful shiny object that I could fawn over, though. And I will admit, I love me some shiny objects. :) (Cubic zirconium is more than shiny enough for me, though. Diamonds are just overpriced human-exploited corporate BS. They look exactly the same and cost 10X as much, plus with the added guilt of the whole blood-diamond thing.) What really matters with any jewelry, though, is the whole symbolism that someone loves you enough to give that to you, and you'd probably think of them every time you look at it. That is admittedly pretty sweet and romantic.
(Side note: Ironic that I think that, because the last time I was in a relationship, we mutually agreed on no jewelry. But I can't help it. I LOVE jewelry now that I can actually wear it.)
As someone who sadly sells them for a living, they mean nothing. If someone was to give me one as a romantic gesture, it would be a clear sign that they don't know me and I should run the opposite direction. Diamonds on the whole are overpriced shiny rocks that are used as a social display of wealth, whether that reflects reality or not.
Does it mean rings aren't special in a sentimental way? Not at all. I would never think someone owns me by giving me a ring... But then again I'm polyamorous..
I've dreamed all my life of wearing such a beautiful wedding dress, in love with a man, receiving a diamond, not a big one but a nice diamond ring. Then having a beautiful wedding & being his wife for the rest of my life, loving him in any way I could, helping him, supporting him....... Having his child would be so great but I know that could not be however I would have loved to become pregnant & birth a beautiful child. So yes a diamond ring from a man & marriage would, to me complete my womanhood.
QuoteI don't understand about
Diamonds and why men buy them
What's so impressive about a diamond
Except the mining?
-Fiona Apple ("Red Red Red" from
Extraordinary Machine)
My wife bought me a cubic zirconia wedding set and Ilve it (never wore a wedding band before). She gave me these as a reassurance and re-dedication of her love for me. It was such a wonderful feeling I cried! I never take them off
Aww, I would get all teary eyed and blush and wouldn't stop smiling, showing all my friends and gushing alot. It's my dream of a man proposing to me, finally get to be a bride and a wife, is extremely exciting to me, like what was first posted it means "you're his woman". It's defenitly a step to feeling like a complete woman.
Quote from: CrissyMarie on August 28, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
Aww, I would get all teary eyed and blush and wouldn't stop smiling, showing all my friends and gushing alot. It's my dream of a man proposing to me, finally get to be a bride and a wife, is extremely exciting to me, like what was first posted it means "you're his woman". It's defenitly a step to feeling like a complete woman.
That's so nice, you look young so maybe you can find your dream & dream man. There are lots of men out there that need & want a nice woman. Go for it GF.
Oh, you know, I'm married to my sweetie, and I wear a narrow band of white gold with half-a-carat of channel set diamonds in it, and interlocked with that band is a second band of yellow gold with a 1.5 carat oval cut Clarity diamond set in it. I don't know that my wedding set makes me any more of a woman than I already am by virtue of who I am (the Eight Ball Barbie Doll girly-girl extraordinaire!), but I do love the hell outta my diamonds!
I will say this: When one wears a great big chunk of "ice" on her hand, regular manicures become essential. People do notice my hands and from time to time someone will randomly take my hand to admire my rings.
(I've been known to tell people that I wear the cost of my funeral on my finger... a sort of funeral insurance in the form of a wedding set... in case it comes to that for those who survive me. Just sayin'.)
I know it seems extravagent and over-the-top to wear a wedding ring that's worth as much as (or more than) my car... but hey, it's a symbol of our love for each other. And besides, whereas my car depreciates in value day by day, the value of my wedding rings tend to increase over time... as long as the value of gold and diamonds continue to increase.
If you get the chance... take the ring! :)
It would mean the WORLD to me, but since it will never happen I will just imagine it and live vicariously through all of you. Please do not lose the romance though. They are not handcuffs or chains, but a display of that special one's devotion to you that the world see's. A diamond is hard to destroy just as your love. :)
Good for you Barbie, Diamonds are forever. Or should I say Mrs. Barbie.
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on August 28, 2014, 01:28:21 PM
Please do not lose the romance though. They are not handcuffs or chains, but a display of that special one's devotion to you that the world see's.
↑ Exactly that! When people openly admire my rings, I always tell them, "She loves me that much!" It's totally true. :)
Quote from: FrancisAnn on August 28, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
Good for you Barbie, Diamonds are forever. Or should I say Mrs. Barbie.
:-*
I want to have an implanted "ring" when I get married :D
I want me and whoever my SO might be to get cool tattoos around our ring fingers and then at the very top where the stone would be, I would get an implant mount (its like a threaded titanium hole permanently buried in your skin... basically haha) and then get custom made stones to exchange with eachother. Now when I find a girl who is down for that, I know she's a keeper :angel:
Quote from: FrancisAnn on August 28, 2014, 12:08:10 AM
I've dreamed all my life of wearing such a beautiful wedding dress, in love with a man, receiving a diamond, not a big one but a nice diamond ring. Then having a beautiful wedding & being his wife for the rest of my life, loving him in any way I could, helping him, supporting him....... Having his child would be so great but I know that could not be however I would have loved to become pregnant & birth a beautiful child. So yes a diamond ring from a man & marriage would, to me complete my womanhood.
Me too! Its been a dream since I was a kid. The whole princess being saved by a prince! Lol
Quote from: Jaz650 on August 29, 2014, 04:16:29 PM
Me too! Its been a dream since I was a kid. The whole princess being saved by a prince! Lol
That's nice, you look young with plenty of life ahead for you. Go for it GF. Princes are everywhere looking for a young princess. It's really not a dream for you since you are young & a pretty girl. Just take care of yourself & follow your heart if you find the right man. Please do not delay with enjoying your true life as I did.
Quote from: Evelyn K on August 24, 2014, 12:36:02 AM
Would being betrothed and wearing a diamond wedding band be the ultimate symbolic completion of your womanhood?
lol of course not...
If anything this sounds rather insulting to me...
It's not the diamond or the ring but what it symbolizes - someone loves you that intensely and wants to be with you. But if someone who felt that way gave me such a ring? Hell, yeah! :)