So right now I am on lower dosages of estradiol and spironolactone and I am wanting to up my dosages a little more to try and speed the process a little more. My question is should I stick with the pills or switch to injections? I'm kind of iffy about the idea of injecting myself also, but don't have any problems with other people "stabbing me".
I would never go injections due to I hate needles coming at me.
I can cope with them going into others, but not me
From what I've heard on the forum, injections are apparently much better than any other option.
Quote from: Katie J on September 05, 2014, 02:54:28 AM
My question is should I stick with the pills or switch to injections? I'm kind of iffy about the idea of injecting myself also, but don't have any problems with other people "stabbing me".
Not that injections are available in my country, I don't think I could trust myself to regularly stab myself either.
I am a bit of a ditz when it came to remembering when to take pills, so I am now on the patches. I don't have to worry about first pass either on patches unlike when taking pills.
Definitely injections!! No more daily pills and I have had some incredible effects. No worries about the concentrations you are getting either. I have been on them three months now and wish I had started with them. :)
Another option, which I've not been offered, are the sub-dermal pellets? I think Jenny and a few others have gone that route with good success. No pills to take, no injections to do regularly, just the one pellet inserted under the skin once a month at the doctor's office.
How often do you have to do the injections? I've never even heard of the pellets, maybe that is something to consider. As soon as I find a new doctor, since I recently moved, I will re look at my options. For better results I think I could get over the idea of stabbing myself.
Quote from: Katie J on September 05, 2014, 12:58:18 PM
How often do you have to do the injections?
Being a Paramedic who can do my own at home I take "E" once a week and Progesterone once a month. The only pain is puncturing the skin. After that there is none unless you wiggle the needle or go to deep and nick the bone. It is really easy to do though as long as you follow the same setup and injection routine every time. :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on September 05, 2014, 01:07:49 PM
The only pain is puncturing the skin. After that there is none unless you wiggle the needle or go to deep and nick the bone.
I feel like without trying I may end up doing that a few times, I'm not the most careful or steady handed ha. But definitely a conversation worth having.
From my experience; injections do wonders over pills in terms of the amount of changes that you see in a smaller time frame. For me, my mood feels more stable on injections than it did on pills. You should consult your doctor about switching to injections if you are interested and go over the risks/rewards. If you have a good doctor, they will want you to practice your injections in front of them before you do it on your own so that they can ensure that you know how to do it properly. I've been injecting under my doctors supervision for the first four time that I've been doing injections every two weeks because after the first time I wanted to make sure I knew what I was doing, the second time I almost fainted, and the third time was the most successful but my muscle seized up causing pain and bruising in my leg a few hours after the time of injection. I'm going in one more time under my doctors supervision to make sure I have this down but from the benefits that I've gotten from injections, I don't want to go back to pills.
Good to know that they make you practice before sending them home! Seems like injections are the way to go for quicker results.
Quote from: Katie J on September 05, 2014, 01:17:58 PM
Seems like injections are the way to go for quicker results.
For me it was the difference between night and day! :)
Jessica you also mentioned progesterone, what exactly does that do? My doctor back in Colorado had mentioned it but said I wouldn't need to worry about that.
Quote from: Katie J on September 05, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
Jessica you also mentioned progesterone, what exactly does that do? My doctor back in Colorado had mentioned it but said I wouldn't need to worry about that.
My Endo swears by it. It is fantastic for breast growth and to me at least compliments the emotional aspect when combined with "E". I was having OK breast growth, but after only one Progesterone injection three days later they absolutely took off! It just kind of completes the package. My Endo thinks it should be a routine part of the HRT protocol. :)
That's one thing that I would like to speed the results on is breast growth. I have been on the pills for roughly 8 months now but only have small, barely noticeable breasts.
I'm pills also I'm in Australia and requested injections but my doc said they don't have injections here. Is there anyone from Australia On here on injections?
Quote from: Summer on September 05, 2014, 05:25:15 PM
I'm pills also I'm in Australia and requested injections but my doc said they don't have injections here. Is there anyone from Australia On here on injections?
Summer, I guess you're not in Sydney? There's a really good endo here.
No I'm on the goldcoast but if I can't get onto injections here I will make a trip to Sydney. Would you mind sharing his/ her details
Summer, its Dr Jon Hayes. You can search his name on this site, and google.
I've no idea how practical it is at that distance, but I expect you'd need multiple visits, getting blood tests and so on. If you do see him perhaps you can ask what tests are needed and somehow arrange them beforehand. He also does implants, which have the advantage of lasting a long time. I've not tried injections, but I'm pretty sure implants are better.
Little dot patches are great for E, so easy, they last for 3.5 days.
Yes your right I would need a few visits. I have all the blood results. I might try another endo here. The tablets aren't doing much after a month. Lol I want sore boobs so I know there growing :) thanks for the replies girls xx
I'm on pills but am definitely interested in all the positive word on injections. You bypass the liver I think with injections which is healthier. I have decent boob growth but could certainly use help with female contouring otherwise. I'll definitely ask my doc about it and progesterone.
Good thread.
I did injections myself years ago, hope to never do them again. I used to do them weekly, the preparation time sucked. Now, I just pop magic pills daily, and they've worked better than shots ever did.
Jessica I thought I heard you complain about needing your next injection at the end of the week. I've heard people say injections are like a rollercoaster ride of hormones. I'm not sure I like the sound of that. I'm curious about the patches and the pellets because they sound healthier for the liver and don't have the UPS and downs of injections.
Absolutely injections from what I have heard although I wouldn't know from experience, I have only done injections. You always know how much you will get, and they bypass the liver completely.
Sub dermal pellets seem like the way of the future though... if they fit your budget and your doc is cool with them.
Quote from: awilliams1701 on September 06, 2014, 12:06:34 AM
Jessica I thought I heard you complain about needing your next injection at the end of the week. I've heard people say injections are like a rollercoaster ride of hormones. I'm not sure I like the sound of that. I'm curious about the patches and the pellets because they sound healthier for the liver and don't have the UPS and downs of injections.
Uh, not this Jessica. I am very pleased with injections and have not had any real ups or downs. You can sense a difference as injection day gets near, but no up and down devastating peaks to speak of. I started on patches which have issue's with the adhesives and "E" level stability problems and tried oral sublingual for a while, but got tired of three a day. Pellets would be nice though, but they are really expensive and not all Endo's are able to administer them. :)
I been on pills for the last 2 years. But im switching over to injections on wednesday
Quote from: Teela Renee on September 06, 2014, 01:19:59 PM
I been on pills for the last 2 years. But im switching over to injections on wednesday
I think you will just LOVE them!! ^-^ ^-^
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on September 06, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
I think you will just LOVE them!! ^-^ ^-^
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I hope so, I was on them for like 2 months when I first moved in with sour skiddlez. And I sneezed while doing the injection and slammed the needle into my femar, it hurt so bad. It terrified me from ever doing another injection. Gotta take her with me. Cause my doctor is gonna show her how to do the injection in my butt cheek so that way I wont be afraid. (after that I cant do leg injections no more, had a doctor try to give me an injection in my leg at the hospital when i had frost bite, it ended in me having a stand off with security XD)