Ideas would be appreciated. I have told my parents that I wanted to start E to feel more at ease for time being I am just on Sperolactone I went to a doctor who uses informed consent model after trying to commit suicide several times. I have question why I was not a female on the outside for most of my life and they say I should go on antidepressants if I am feeling this way all those do is make you want to sleep etc Please help
You have to be aware, that though oestrogen is awesome and wonderful and fantastic, it can cause depression, and even exacerbate symptoms already there. So giving it to someone who is suicidal, is probably not the best idea, irrespective of the fact it would probably make them not suicidal.
I would say listen to the good doctor and go on antidepressants, and keep pushing to go on oestrogen. Its not one or the other after all, and who knows, when they realise antidepressants aren't working that great maybe they'll put you on E too :D
Also in many countries, getting a minor on HRT is actually not a simple process. In Australia for example, it requires a court hearing and such cases are generally given focus by the legal community...so it can take a while before the courts as well as doctors to get on HRT.
Maybe keep that in mind also :/
I guess I should probably mention I am over 18 years of age just happen to live with parents my primary care doctor has signed off on starting HRT to my natural path
Sweet :D
I just wasn't sure, I just wanted to tiptoe around that :)
So, if you don't mind me asking, how long have you been on spiro?
No problem I suck at spelling and grammar do to learning disability and stress I have Ben on Sperolactone for about a month I was on t and growth hormone about 17-12 years ago do to low levels I hated the t I tried it as I was told I was a boy and deal with it unfortunately
It wasn't a comment on your Grammar :P
It's just a common thing for minors to be on spiro without E, for some reason.
Ah that does put a twist on things :P
I'm assuming you rely on your parents to provide the medication then?
So are they against you being a girl or is there something else here, like they say 'its not worth it', but why?
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on September 07, 2014, 07:18:08 AM
Also in many countries, getting a minor on HRT is actually not a simple process. In Australia for example, it requires a court hearing and such cases are generally given focus by the legal community...so it can take a while before the courts as well as doctors to get on HRT.
Maybe keep that in mind also :/
Is she in Australia?
The ->-bleeped-<- I went through to start HRT was just bad.
lawyers, doctors & judges just to get on blockers.
I was told, by the court that I could start HRT on my 18th b'day, I was given my hormones a week out and told that if caught taking them a day before I could be fined.
One day, while in court, we left to see 3 TV cameras following us.
Wow your court was awful :(
you don't need permission to start on your 18th birthday, also thats kinda contrary to the common law of Australia. The judge who found that must have been a tad of biggot
although, I suppose that was a while ago :)
So none else has to go through crap like that again
antidepressants seem to only work for people who've got it really bad. on anyone else, the most you can hope for is some placebo effect.
if you are in a state of mind where you can think at all, thinking together with a therapist would probably be much more effective than meds.
why do you try to commit suicide though?
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on September 07, 2014, 08:32:51 AM
Wow your court was awful :(
you don't need permission to start on your 18th birthday, also thats kinda contrary to the common law of Australia. The judge who found that must have been a tad of biggot
it was a while ago now, half my life ago.
back then there were no trans teens, no real awareness and it was handled so bad for those few that were ready
Quote from: Kassie on September 07, 2014, 07:38:41 AM
I guess I should probably mention I am over 18 years of age just happen to live with parents my primary care doctor has signed off on starting HRT to my natural path
Hi Kassie:
So you can't start HRT because..?
It's not as if your parents will notice any immediate changes. Try it for a few months, see how it makes you feel. For me (and many others), HRT had massive antidepressant effects, even at very low doses.
It's better than thoughts of harming yourself.
I heard this at group yesterday, idk if it applies or not but thought I would share it anyway cuz it might.
If you have other issues going on atm, like depression, anxiety, etc, going on hrt can intensify and make em worse. You didn't specifically say that you have any but maybe you do and if so, maybe that is why your parents are against you going on e at the moment?
so, not to sound rude why do your parents have control when the doctor already signed off on it and your legally an adult.
Brenda E
I am still on my parents insurance I do not drive so my mom usually picks up my prescriptions with hers so it is a bit hard to take it behind her back
Stephaniec
My parents say that I'm living under their roof on their insurance they don't want me going on just any old drug my mother really has been dragging her feet on going to see a therapist that specializes in gender dysphoria etc.
I am located in the Oregon Washington area of the US my parents do not understand or want to understand gender dysphoria issues
I don't know, but its your mental health and unless your parents are doctors how in the world would they know what's medically best.
Could not agree with you more my mom says she wants me to see a therapist but everyone I find her is not good enough for her or she drags her feet on it this is not the first time I have brought this up in the past 25+ years
I worry more about getting out on your own and getting your own meds. Get a ride from a friend or whatever. If you are 25, then you won't have insurance long under your parents anyway.
Due to a medical condition which I was born with I will be under my parents as primary even when they qualify for Medicare however my primary care and informed consent natural path doctor who prescribed Sperolactone and estrogen both agree that I should be fine with the other medications I am on including a blood thinner above aspirin
I also would not get a Knouff money to be able to live on my own until I can get stuff. Figure it out with low T and going on estrogen etc.
well, its totally up to you sometimes decisions get tough. seek help from city services or an LGBT center. search for city mental health centers, That's what I did when I was 18. the therapist I saw at the free clinic got me back in school.
Quote from: Kassie on September 07, 2014, 10:41:12 AM
Brenda E
I am still on my parents insurance I do not drive so my mom usually picks up my prescriptions with hers so it is a bit hard to take it behind her back
I can see how that's a hurdle to overcome, but not that difficult, surely? Next time you're at the doctor, pick up the prescription without telling her - that part is simple. Then when you're next within walking distance of a pharmacy and your mom isn't around, go in and wait for the meds on your own. Or have a friend drive. Pay out of pocket - the generics are very cheap and you can easily bypass the insurance. There's ways around this.
Quote from: Kassie on September 07, 2014, 10:59:23 AM
Could not agree with you more my mom says she wants me to see a therapist but everyone I find her is not good enough for her or she drags her feet on it this is not the first time I have brought this up in the past 25+ years
Whether the therapist is "good enough for her" or not is absolutely irrelevant; the only criteria is whether the therapist is good enough for
you. I don't mean to be too abrupt, but it sounds like your mom is actively blocking your transition by vetoing decisions that aren't hers to make, in addition to controlling your transport, your access to drugs, your access to doctors etc. You might be her son/daughter, but you're not a child, you're not a legal minor, and there's some apron strings that sound like they need cutting - or at least loosening. And this is a two-way street though: while she needs to let you have some independence, you might need to tell her to stop micromanaging your affairs.
your situation sounds very complex with intersex and other conditions. do you have a good primary care doctor? .
you and your parents have gone through a lot. your parents understand more than you think.
I would say slow down cool off. I hope you get to see a good and honest psychiatrist. or a very good therapist who understands Intersex. and dysphoria. I don't know if most therapist have the expertise to deal with everything you have to deal with. you need a holistic approach.
you have to sort things out for yourself obviously.
as you know they have ( I ) and trans groups you could go to.
if you can navigate susans, something I have trouble with at times you are able to google stuff about dysphoria and intersex .its a very good resource as long you don't believe everything you read.
an endo can prescribes these meds. what do they say .
What ever you decide it's your decision . with guidance the choice is up to you.
You mentioned you where taking testosterone because you have low levels.
Do you know the cause of this?