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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: Apples Mk.II on September 16, 2014, 03:52:50 AM

Title: Ways to lower T (that are not AA's)? (And a bit of TMI/NSFW stuff)
Post by: Apples Mk.II on September 16, 2014, 03:52:50 AM
I'm back from the endo appointment. What I got is that while I am in the female range, she doesn't care if I am at the high end of it. I'm between 60-70 ng/dl. And the consequences of this are more facial hair regrowth, and that I have more libido and erections than Pre-HRT. MY libido is so so crazy and turns me into a slut that I have even considered topping a a guy  I get far more penetrative on high and that's a fact, but this is a new record). Heck, I was a freaking eunuch before and now I need to masturbate daily as a mean of purging steam from the boiler. I forgot during the weekend and I was breathing heavy at work, thinking about doing a solo in the bathroom, and taking the toy collection for a spin once I was at home (took me two dildos and a hitachi magic wand to be pacified).


Basically, I'm on a "deal with it" situation. I'm in what my endo considers the "maximum safe amount" of cyproterone acetate. I've been given a hint that if things kept going up, we would need to consider an orchiectomy. Something I'd rather avoid since I am aiming for SRS with non-inversión method.

So, I need to get my T down without taking more antiandrogens. Spiro is something that does not work on me and the endo was scared about giving me flutamide.
The first idea would be weight loss. Another girl I know has an endo that adjusts her dosage acording to her weight. She went up 10 kg and stopped having effect, until she went down again. So I have started dieting and pedalling again to get my weight down by 2-3 kg, to the state I was in when I was prescribed my current dosage. This will have the secondary benefit or being physycally fit and active, something requested by the anesthesist.


So, what can I do? I was thinking about foods that can keep it a bit on control So far my diet is quite normal. Lots of veggies and pasta/rice, not a massive amount of meat (turkey most of the time) One beer per week and one "free night" to allow eating junk food as a dinner. Any ideas on food or other ways of lowering T?
Title: Re: Ways to lower T (that are not AA's)? (And a bit of TMI/NSFW stuff)
Post by: KayXo on September 16, 2014, 12:32:08 PM
Quote from: Julia (Apple-Whatever) on September 16, 2014, 03:52:50 AM
the endo was scared about giving me flutamide.

What about bicalutamide which appears to be safer than flutamide and more potent? You could suggest this to your doctor or perhaps take enough estrogen non-orally so that it makes it drop more. The thing though with bicalutamide (same with flutamide) is that while effective for body androgenization, it doesn't block androgen in the brain so usually maintains sex drive and I think also erections remain. You and your doctor could look into it though. Hopefully, your doctor will find an answer soon. :)

Title: Re: Ways to lower T (that are not AA's)? (And a bit of TMI/NSFW stuff)
Post by: Delsorou on September 16, 2014, 05:41:45 PM
Licorice root (or more specifically, glycyrrhizic acid formed by digesting it) has been proven to lower circulating testosterone significantly.  It is pretty much the only "herbal" that I found in my research that actually does have *therapeutically significant* clinically proven results.

It's also a hypertensive, which makes it an excellent counterpart to spiro treatment because it largely eliminates the side effects (for us) while synergizing with the desired effect.  I used it this way for about 6 months of my HRT, before I tossed it because it tasted AWFUL and I got tired of drinking it, and don't really notice the hypotensive effects of spiro anyway.  :)

http://drtorihudson.com/botanicals/licorice-reduces-the-side-effects-of-spironolactone-in-polycystic-ovary-syndrome/ (http://drtorihudson.com/botanicals/licorice-reduces-the-side-effects-of-spironolactone-in-polycystic-ovary-syndrome/)
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199910073411515 (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199910073411515)