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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Gina Taylor on October 07, 2014, 07:23:13 AM

Title: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Gina Taylor on October 07, 2014, 07:23:13 AM
Yesterday my biological sister noticed that I like the color pink. It is what makes up most of my nail polish's. I have a lot of different tones of pink, and she told me that to be feminine doesn't mean that I have to wear pink, and I wear pink sneakers as well. Any comments . . .
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: suzifrommd on October 07, 2014, 07:59:07 AM
Wear what you like. Anyone have a problem with it? They can wear what they like.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: jname on October 07, 2014, 08:49:36 AM
I think she may of just been letting you know that you don't have to adhere to stereotypes to appear feminine.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Eevee on October 07, 2014, 08:51:56 AM
I have the same "problem" with purple. Just wear what appeals to you. Color is a very subjective thing anyways.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Pikachu on October 07, 2014, 09:01:05 AM
I definitely have a thing for pink ever since I came out. It could be that I just genuinely like the colour that much, or maybe I like it a little more than most because I spent so many years completely avoiding it. It feels good to finally be able to embrace the colour pink, lol.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Hikari on October 07, 2014, 09:23:40 AM
To be fair you can overdo any color. I like pink just fine, but it doesn't really go with everything, like I might pair pink and white or pink and black, but for example I probably wouldn't wear my pink cardigan with my green top.

I guess it all comes down to how much you think is appropriate of one color. The color itself is largely irrelevant.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: BreezyB on October 07, 2014, 09:29:18 AM
I would agree, I think too much of any colour can be a little overdone, but that's just me. I like pink, purple, blue, green, violet etc, just not all of those colours at once, unless it's clown day at work
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: ♥︎ SarahD ♥︎ on October 07, 2014, 04:37:15 PM
Pink is definitely not bad in any way, but as the others said it can be over-done like any colour.  If you have pink hair, a pink top, pink skirt, pink nails, pink shoes, pink eyeshadow and pink lipstick, and that kind of colour scheme is all you ever wear, then I'd say you might be overdoing it a little lol.

It also depends on how "bold" we're talking.  If we're talking pastel levels of pink, then even the above can work.  If we're talking very bold and florescent, then you probably shouldn't be too surprised if people vomit as you walk down the street lol :P  But it's not because "it's pink" - the same thing applies to any colour.

You may want to have a read up on Colour Theory (http://www.colormatters.com/color-and-design/basic-color-theory).  If you can get a handle on that, you'll get a better idea about what works and what doesn't.  In a nutshell - it's not so much about the colours you use, but rather it's about *HOW* you use them.

Personally, my favourite colours are purple, pink and fuschia kinds of shades.  I find a black base works really well with them too.  Speaking of such colour schemes:

Quote from: Pikachu on October 07, 2014, 09:01:05 AM
I definitely have a thing for pink ever since I came out. It could be that I just genuinely like the colour that much, or maybe I like it a little more than most because I spent so many years completely avoiding it. It feels good to finally be able to embrace the colour pink, lol.

Pikachu, hunni, your avatar is *AWESOME*!  #SoJelly! :D

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Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Ms Grace on October 07, 2014, 04:42:52 PM
Meh, go back a couple of hundred years and you'll see they dressed boys in pink and girls in blue. There is no such thing as gendered colours it's a social construct. Use whatever colour appeals to you.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: FrancisAnn on October 07, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
Everyone is different obviously. Just try lots of colors to find your happy place. I've tried all different shades of nail polish, purple, green, black, pinks, reds..... And for my skin shade I mostly always come back to red. Clothes & shoes & everything else are the same. Just experiment until your find your style that's good for you. Have fun with all of it. 
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: BreezyB on October 07, 2014, 07:23:49 PM
At least in Western Australia there's a place called Your Colours. Helps with matching style, colours and makeup to your skin tone and body shape. I'm sure there's similar in other cities.

http://www.yourcolours.com.au

It's not everyday one gets to reinvent themselves, so we're all quite lucky!

Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Misato on October 07, 2014, 09:12:36 PM
My outfit day one was largely pink.

I wear a lot of pink. Usually hot pink. I do get some loving teases for it. But it works with my skin so it's all good.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Pikachu on October 07, 2014, 09:25:09 PM
It looks lovely on you, Misato.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: ✰Fairy~Wishes✰ on October 07, 2014, 10:22:18 PM
You don't have to wear pink. But I think pink is wonderful!

You should express yourself in any way that you want to! If you like pink, you should wear pink!
I love pink so much! Especially pastel pink, I love pastel colours!

My favourite colour is actually seafoam green. I love all pastels and blue-green colours.
But pastel pink is probably my second favourite colour! I wear it all the time. :)

Nobody should be afraid of pretty colours.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Nicole on October 08, 2014, 03:05:40 AM
I love pink, however I never ever wear it with clothes, for me its just not a great clothing colour.

I wear it a lot on my nails, but thinking about it, I don't think I own a pink item at all.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Nicole on October 08, 2014, 03:06:34 AM
btw, I did sleep with a guy once who had a pink room......
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Taka on October 08, 2014, 04:11:09 AM
pink looks punk on me when i wear it right.
the color doesn't make you feminine, but matching your colors well can.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: BreezyB on October 08, 2014, 04:15:54 AM
Quote from: Nicole on October 08, 2014, 03:06:34 AM
btw, I did sleep with a guy once who had a pink room......

And what would be wrong with a guy having a pink room Nicole? My room as a teenager was a kind of burnt pink colour, and it was awsome. But then again, I was hardly any good at being a guy anyway :icon_suspicious:

But if one of my sons wants a pink room, good on him, he'll get a pink room
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Taka on October 08, 2014, 04:34:33 AM
some saami hip hop type of musician was interview on tv, where he also showed all his traditional costumes tht his mother had sewn him. the guy's mother said she just sew them the way he wanted them, so the journalist asked what if he wanted a pink costume. the mother just answered, "well, why not."
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: big kim on October 08, 2014, 04:41:15 AM
There were some badass pink Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars made in 1970/71.A Panther Pink Plymouth Duster with a 340 and 4 speed has been on my wish list for many years
Title: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Nicole on October 08, 2014, 04:50:01 AM

Quote from: BreezyB on October 08, 2014, 04:15:54 AM
And what would be wrong with a guy having a pink room Nicole? My room as a teenager was a kind of burnt pink colour, and it was awsome. But then again, I was hardly any good at being a guy anyway :icon_suspicious:

But if one of my sons wants a pink room, good on him, he'll get a pink room

Did I say there was anything wrong with it?

He was as straight as you can get, just had a pink room which he hayrd
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: BreezyB on October 08, 2014, 06:03:21 AM
No you didn't so I'm sorry Nicole, I became defensive of the colour pink and I shouldn't have. I really liked my room as a teenager, that's all.  :icon_flower:

We didn't sleep together did we? That could have been me you know, I mean I was pretty convincing, straight as a winding road you could say ;D
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Misato on October 08, 2014, 06:10:43 AM
Quote from: Pikachu on October 07, 2014, 09:25:09 PM
It looks lovely on you, Misato.

Daww, thanks! :)

I forgot. A clerk told me once, "I love how much pink you wear! It makes me happy!" That was a cool moment.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Gina Taylor on October 08, 2014, 09:45:40 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on October 07, 2014, 04:42:52 PM
Meh, go back a couple of hundred years and you'll see they dressed boys in pink and girls in blue. There is no such thing as gendered colours it's a social construct. Use whatever colour appeals to you.

Thanks Ms. Grace for your excellent advice. It's something I'll always remember, and maybe something I'll point out to my sister
casually.

Quote from: ✰Fairy~Wishes✰ on October 07, 2014, 10:22:18 PM
You don't have to wear pink. But I think pink is wonderful!

You should express yourself in any way that you want to! If you like pink, you should wear pink! And Suzi, I'm really gonna try and take on the same attitude that you have! ;D
I love pink so much! Especially pastel pink, I love pastel colours!

My favourite colour is actually seafoam green. I love all pastels and blue-green colours.
But pastel pink is probably my second favourite colour! I wear it all the time. :)

Nobody should be afraid of pretty colours.
I've actually tried other colors, but due to my complexion, pink just looks best on me.  :)

Quote from: Taka on October 08, 2014, 04:11:09 AM
pink looks punk on me when I wear it right.
the color doesn't make you feminine, but matching your colors well can.
That's an excellent idea there Taka. So either way I go, I'll just have to watch which way I wear pink with my ensemble.  :)

BTW, FrancisAnn, that's a very lovely pink you're wearing in your avatar.  :) And Suzi, I'm gonna try and take on the same attitude that you have ;D
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Illuminess on October 08, 2014, 03:34:02 PM
I'm not very feminine (in this particular sense). If I had a very obvious female body, long hair, and makeup on, you'd definitely see a woman as my body language and gestures are far from masculine, but I don't see myself ever wearing dresses, lace and pumps. I do happen to like pink, though! It really complements my skin tone. I wear far more black and red, though. I wear pink when I'm feeling a bit more "girly" than usual. It's all very psychological, though. It's a standard color for girls, as blue is for boys. But as others have said, just wear whatever the heck you want! If you go overkill then maybe that's just what you were going for! :P
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: mac1 on October 08, 2014, 04:29:18 PM
I like pink, purple and lavender; and have shirts in those colors.  :) :) They have not been just female colors for several years.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Nicole on October 10, 2014, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: BreezyB on October 08, 2014, 06:03:21 AM
No you didn't so I'm sorry Nicole, I became defensive of the colour pink and I shouldn't have. I really liked my room as a teenager, that's all.  :icon_flower:

We didn't sleep together did we? That could have been me you know, I mean I was pretty convincing, straight as a winding road you could say ;D

Unless you're in Melbourne, I don't think so.

He was living with 3 mates, he was also the last to move in after a female moved out but the room was pink before they all moved in and she got the room on the account that she was the female and pink is for girls.
after about 6 months she moved out and he moved in, asked the landlord if he could paint it and he said "no way in hell".
So he was stuck with it, his pick up line inc. "do you wanna see my pink room"
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Rachelicious on October 10, 2014, 06:34:03 AM
In the wrong context / shade / etc., it's obsequiously feminine.

In context, it can be nice. Certainly not necessary.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: makipu on October 10, 2014, 08:30:16 AM
I don't think color defines gender at all. So to me pink doesn't equal feminine even though probably 99% of the people thinks so.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Gina Taylor on October 10, 2014, 09:08:12 AM
I like pink, purple and lavender; and have shirts in those colors.    They have not been just female colors for several years.
I agree wholeheartedly with you on this.
I'm not very feminine (in this particular sense). If I had a very obvious female body, long hair, and makeup on, you'd definitely see a woman as my body language and gestures are far from masculine, but I don't see myself ever wearing dresses, lace and pumps. I do happen to like pink, though! It really complements my skin tone. I wear far more black and red, though. I wear pink when I'm feeling a bit more "girly" than usual. It's all very psychological, though. It's a standard color for girls, as blue is for boys. But as others have said, just wear whatever the heck you want! If you go overkill then maybe that's just what you were going for! 
Thanks for the excellent advice! As said I'm gonna start taking stock of my life and stop letting people run my life for me and just do what I feel is best for me!
I think she may have just been letting you know that you don't have to adhere to stereotypes to appear feminine.

That's a good idea there, and I don't really adhere to that many stereotypes to express my being a woman.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: judithlynn on October 10, 2014, 11:31:25 AM
Hi Bree;
Yes getting ones colour analysis is probably the very best investment a Trans woman can make. I had mine down in the UK in 2008 whilst in the UK for an extended period. Since then I use my colour swatch and make up colour chart for choosing all my outfits and makeup. Its definitely important for passing. For instance I am an Autumn person in my skin tones and  a couple of colours of lipstick, nail varnish and eye make up make all the difference in passing. When I am dressed I also look coloured coordinated and people constantly remark on nice shoes, lovely handbag, or you look great with that coordinated top and skirt, or I love the colour of your matching lipstick and nails. I get the complements all the time and of course I don't let on that I have this secret bible my colour swatch which is in my handbags for every shopping trip. Once I had done my colour analysis, I gave away all my items of clothing that were just the wrong colours for me and I haven't looked back. In the IK it was called House of Colour and it cost me just UK Pounds 120 for a very nice day. It was worth every penny and more so.
JudithLynn
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: ♥︎ SarahD ♥︎ on October 10, 2014, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: judithlynn on October 10, 2014, 11:31:25 AM
...In the IK it was called House of Colour and it cost me just UK Pounds 120 for a very nice day. It was worth every penny and more so...

You mean these people: http://www.houseofcolour.co.uk/ (http://www.houseofcolour.co.uk/)?

Oooh, there's a consultant in my city!  Thanks for the tip hun! :D ♥︎
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Jess42 on October 10, 2014, 11:05:42 PM
Well I think pink is feminine but not only that it is a relaxing color. It's a non conflicting or a non violent color. Why do you the sheriff in So AZ makes the prisoners wear pink underwear? Some prisons and jails were experimenting with pink walls because it is a soothing color. I personally love the color pink especially mixed with white.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: judithlynn on October 11, 2014, 03:36:32 AM
Hi KiraD;
Yes that's the company;
As I said its the best investment  a woman under transition can ever make as I am always getting great complements since I did the day session on my clothes and makeup and colour coordination. In fact I have just three lipsticks that are accurately matched to my skin colour and three OPI nail colours that are similarly matched.
JudithLynn
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Post by: ♥︎ SarahD ♥︎ on October 11, 2014, 03:48:39 AM
Hehe that's really cool :D  out of curiosity - how trans* friendly are they?  Do you think they'd be open to discussing female colour schemes even if I present in guy-mode? ♥︎
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: judithlynn on October 11, 2014, 11:25:49 AM
Hi Kira;

I went to a lady in Exmouth, but unfortunately she is no longer there. The new woman lives in Totnes in Devon. I explained that I was TS and undergoing a sex change and that I was living as a woman part time. She decided to have a 1 on 1 session with me and so I presented as a woman. She was really nice and we did the full work up.

I guess is that it depends on the Agent, but I don't think they would do it if you presented as male.
JudithLynn
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Gina Taylor on October 13, 2014, 09:52:04 AM
I agree as well. Pink is a very relaxing color! :)
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Shana-chan on October 13, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
Quote from: Gina Taylor on October 07, 2014, 07:23:13 AM
Yesterday my biological sister noticed that I like the color pink. It is what makes up most of my nail polish's. I have a lot of different tones of pink, and she told me that to be feminine doesn't mean that I have to wear pink, and I wear pink sneakers as well. Any comments . . .
I don't know what's been said here already but, "pink" is now a days considered feminine and only now are some guys (Who I assume aren't gay) starting to wear pink however, the truth of the matter is, back in like the 1800's guys did wear pink. It was never considered girly for them to wear pink and both genders whore pink.
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: ameliato on October 18, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
My wife lets me paint my toes any colour but Pink. That's crossing the line for her acceptance as she always says it's too "girly" for a "man" to paint them that colour. :( At least she lets me paint them without conflict. :) So, to her, Pink is too feminine. It's a colour. I certainly have yet to find a definition of "too feminine" that fits my liking.

When the cats away though, you can be certain those toes are as pink as pink can be. ;)

Amelia
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Gina Taylor on October 27, 2014, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: ameliato on October 18, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
My wife lets me paint my toes any colour but Pink. That's crossing the line for her acceptance as she always says it's too "girly" for a "man" to paint them that colour. :( At least she lets me paint them without conflict. :) So, to her, Pink is too feminine. It's a colour. I certainly have yet to find a definition of "too feminine" that fits my liking.

When the cats away though, you can be certain those toes are as pink as pink can be. ;)

Amelia


I think that's unfair of your wife to forbid you from painting your toe nails in pink. If you're trying to be a WOMAN, then I'd say to her that you should be able to wear pink. I've stuck to my guns and I haven't let my sister's comments affect me so she's stopped making her remarks!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is Pink Too Feminine?
Post by: Jess42 on October 27, 2014, 11:14:36 AM
Quote from: ameliato on October 18, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
My wife lets me paint my toes any colour but Pink. That's crossing the line for her acceptance as she always says it's too "girly" for a "man" to paint them that colour. :( At least she lets me paint them without conflict. :) So, to her, Pink is too feminine. It's a colour. I certainly have yet to find a definition of "too feminine" that fits my liking.

When the cats away though, you can be certain those toes are as pink as pink can be. ;)

Amelia

Pink nail polish is fine but I love coral a lot better. That on my nails seem to be even more feminine than pink even. Or it seems to me so. Also Sally Hanson nail polish in the chrome seems to go with just about anything. But personally on nail polish I love the reds. Fingers and toes. That goes really well with just about anything too. Especially "the little black dress" or the little red one too.