Poll
Question:
Which bests describe your opinion of young women who dress in revealing clothing?
Option 1: They don't have enough respect for themselves.
Option 2: They are expressing a positive self image.
Lately I've heard a number of people express concern about young women dressing in revealing clothing. Some say that it shows a lack of respect for themselves and their bodies, and if they respected themselves more they wouldn't put it all on display. Others say that they're expressing a positive view of their own bodies and are proud enough not to cover them up.
What do you think?
Aside from occasional envy?
I think it's a matter of the purpose of it. If dressing that way is simply an outward expression of the way they're feeling that day - damn right it's a positive expression of self confidence and more power to them.
If they're dressing that way for external reasons, such as peer pressure or a desire to attract anyone and everyone to cover up an internal self-loathing - not so good.
I also think that since no one can possibly tell which of these two general categories the person is in just by the clothes, it's important to not judge. :)
^^^^^This.
If I was young and pretty enough I would do it. Not because anyone expects me to or under societal pressure, but just because I could. I would love to celebrate youth the right way with the right body. :)
I grew up thinking that those kinds of girls had no respect for their bodies. I was a modest type, myself, so I couldn't understand their viewpoint.
After I learned more about sexuality, I stopped having any judgments for the most part. I still think it's important for young women to understand the message that they're giving off when they dress that way, though, and be prepared to protect themselves if need be (from unwanted comments and such). We all say things with our choice in clothing. To insist that we don't is naive.
Much better than an elderly woman that dresses provocatively.
Maybe after I retire from making the "Fill Jill– Volume I - X" films, I'll do "Bad Grandma"?
Kidding... Really.
My judgment on this is situational. It's different for a friend going to a club than it would be for my daughter going to school (who is only two, so we haven't had to cross this bridge, yet). And I think that's where the debate comes in, for me. If a friend wanted to wear an outfit to a club that was provocative, but suited her body, I'd give her a big thumbs up. That being said, I don't want my daughter to grow up learning that her source of "power" comes from showing off her body. Some women rely on their looks instead of their brains to get them through life, and that's a big no-no, for me.
If they can get away with looking awesome and sexy then good luck to them!
Depends on why they are dressing sexy. If they feel good and like the attention then by all means go ahead but if they feel like they should then no they should be allowed to dress the way they like.
I voted for the first one, though I don't think it describes my feelings on the subject 100 percent.
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I can't say I particularly think about them at all. Live and let live.
Hey, Suzi,
why you do not make the next poll about old women that dress provocative... I am curious...
Quote from: KateSinclair on October 16, 2014, 04:41:43 PM
My judgment on this is situational. It's different for a friend going to a club than it would be for my daughter going to school (who is only two, so we haven't had to cross this bridge, yet). And I think that's where the debate comes in, for me. If a friend wanted to wear an outfit to a club that was provocative, but suited her body, I'd give her a big thumbs up. That being said, I don't want my daughter to grow up learning that her source of "power" comes from showing off her body. Some women rely on their looks instead of their brains to get them through life, and that's a big no-no, for me.
Agree^^^! When my 13 year old gets ready for school I make sure she puts them away! But anyone else... Ehh whatever. ;)
It might be because of the generation I'm growing up in, but I've seen people dress all types of ways and never given it much thought. I'm not the fashion police so there's no reason for me to judge someone else's fashion choices when I spend over half my life in a sweatshirt and jeans.
It's purely a gesture to get the attention of men who have one thing on their mind, in my experience anyway. Everyone knows what their own body looks like and dressing provocatively isn't going to effect your personal view of your body.
Quote from: peky on October 16, 2014, 09:29:18 PM
Hey, Suzi,
why you do not make the next poll about old women that dress provocative... I am curious...
OK, peky, I will. Actually an equally controversial topic.
Envy. If they can pull it off more power to them. I'd love to be young and wear cute, provocative clothes. Shoot - I'd settle for just being younger. As it is I will have to dress my age and mute it some.
I didn't vote because I simply don't think it's for me to think anything about it. All I ever think about it is 'aren't you cold' :p I'm always cold so when I see girls come past in november in tiny skirts I'm worried that they're freezing.
There's so many reasons that women dress the way they do these days, not sure what to think.?
Is it to attract men and get attention.? What about lesbians.?
Many women who work in offices have to dress way up, it's just part of the image they want to work.
Theres lots of fashion styles today that are very provocative.
Some women don't have money to fill a closet with different looks, and have to settle on a few nice outfits,
that they might wear most of the time, and may look provocative or out of place because it's all they have,
especially younger single women just starting out on they're own.
Reguardless the reasons, women should be able to dress how they want to, without cat calling, or unkind comments by anyone else.
But thats not the way the world or society works.?
I can't vote because it just depends on the situation. I have no problem how anyone dresses. There is however a time and place for dressing sexy. You can dress sexy but classy for work. Sexy doesn't have to be provocative. Going out, you can dress sexy and provocative. A lot of it depends upon self confidence. But what I think about young women that dress provocatively? It's their right to dress how they want, but they just have to expect the attention that comes with it because it will draw attention. Not a bad thing though. To dress provocatively, I think it also takes a lot of self confidence. It all boils down to some women love the attention and others may not want the same kind of attention. And that is up to an individual.
I don't think about it. I really don't care what other people want to wear. It's their right and I'm not going to sit around and psychoanalyze someone based on their outfit.
As for my own style of dress, I prefer longer dresses/skirts, tops that don't show off midriff, etc.
Quote from: Pikachu on October 17, 2014, 08:30:43 AM
I don't think about it. I really don't care what other people want to wear. It's their right and I'm not going to sit around and psychoanalyze someone based on their outfit.
Can this be a third option?
I usually think they've been taught how to dress by the media and adverts from various companies, the sad part is I can usually tell where they do their shopping ::)
Quote from: V M on October 23, 2014, 05:58:50 AM
the sad part is I can usually tell where they do their shopping ::)
Unless they're half submerged in a rain barrel. ;D
I'd say wear what you want. But don't be surprised or angry if people look at you when you do.
Their bodies, their choice.
I noticed an interesting trend lately when I go shopping. The more provocative styles are mostly Junior Miss sizes. I wonder if that may be a collaborative decision to not have adults try to look sexy in public. It is my opinion that girls should not dress that way until they are adults, but then they can't find those clothes in their sizes anymore.
I think it's none of my business.
If you got it, then flaunt it, but be prepared for any adverse consequences that come your way.
Clothes have no meaning, they are not provocative, but all things society is constructing around them. In the 1920 it was provocative when women wore trousers. I think wearing sexy outfits (for women) has become normal, it's reproduced in a million ways every day, in magazines, television etc. The only provocation left is men start wearing "feminine" clothes.
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Heck yeah I love dressing provocatively! It makes me feel better about myself to be honest as it is nice to feel attractive. I think that is why other young women do it to? It mus be obviously.
I don't know I like to try and pull of minimal clothes sometimes and by that I mean a bikini, short skirt, crop top...
I always hid under clothes. Because of cold weather and also my insecurities at times.
I remember when I would still wear a jacket when it would get hot in June while in school... I still have my moments but trying to work on myself so I can wear what I want
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I get a bit jealous because they can get away with it and I most likely cannot :-\
Let's be clear. I am relatively new in my transition. I never really thought it was possible to even do HRT. But I love to wear mini skirts. Just not out in public. When out and about I try to present the image of a mature woman. Again if I were 21, it would be different. One of my favorite places to shop is Venus.com. It's not grandmas clothes.
Quote from: DawnOday on April 11, 2018, 11:33:13 AM
Let's be clear. I am relatively new in my transition. I never really thought it was possible to even do HRT. But I love to wear mini skirts. Just not out in public. When out and about I try to present the image of a mature woman. Again if I were 21, it would be different. One of my favorite places to shop is Venus.com. It's not grandmas clothes.
Looks like they have some nice stuff at reasonable prices, I signed up for email adverts ;D
Quote from: King Malachite on October 16, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
I voted for the first one, though I don't think it describes my feelings on the subject 100 percent.
Four years later, I still vote for the first answer. I'm more conservative, so I'm not a big fan of revealing outfits outside of the marriage bed. I'd much rather see a woman in a dress that covers herself. That's what I am attracted to.
More power to them. I would do it too if I were younger and had the body for it.
Well, I'm a young man who dresses provacatively and I do that to express my confidence and comfort with my own body, and cause I like being a bit of a tease. I mean, super short shorts with a very loose tank top that has high potential for a nip slip (I'm post top surgery), see-through shirts, or an open cardigan with nothing under, is my go to summer outfit. For slightly colder weather I prefer tight pants and half open button-ups.
So it would be hypocritical of me to not think the same for women who do the same but more femininely. That it's expressing confidence and a lack of shame. But then I know that different people have different reasons for doing the same thing. I'm sure at least some do it for self-damaging reasons too, cause I know I did as a teen pre-transition.
I mean back then I dressed that way cause I wanted for others to take advantage of me, and that's not a good way to "handle" shyness, insecurities, other mental health issues and sexual frustration. It got me into trouble more than once. Even very serious trouble, as in sexual assault. However I'm sure it wasn't just my outfit and mindset that got me into that situation, but I can't deny it was a factor.
Now, yes I appreciate positive attention to dressing in revealing clothes, but it's not like I chase that. It would just be a bonus. I've learned how to handle the negative attention well. I definitely have a reputation of being promiscuous, but for me that's a good thing and something I want to keep up.
I know the question is about women specifically, but I don't think there's a huge difference between women and men expressing themselves in the same manner, at least according to my own experiences. Especially as a gay (trans) man, I get pretty much still the same kind of reactions from other men for dressing the same way now as I did before as a more or less straight girl. Perhaps sexuality can be somewhat of a factor to consider to this question as well. As I think it might be a bit different for lesbians and straight men who also dress provacatively, and surely for bisexuals and asexuals, etc too.
I did vote "They are expressing a positive self image" cause I think that's for the majority and/or most common reason, but that might just be my own assertions. Also, I have no issues what so ever with older people dressing like that either. Each to their own. I think it's a shame that we are being told that certain types of bodies are not to be shown.
To be honest I feel kinda awkward when I dress "provocatively". But maybe I should do it more. Short skirts and dresses I do like and wear on nights out in the summer/warmer weather. But now during the day I wanna wear short shorts and tank tops [emoji4] my body is kinda pale/pasty, I really don't know how anyone would even like that
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My viewpoint: Wear what you want, when you want to wear it. Self respect does not equal modesty and it is up to everyone else to deal with it appropriately.
Just a couple of points...
'Provocative' Is in the eye of the beholder, and is often a function of a femme presentation viewed through the goggles of a patriarchal culture that claims that the dominant males somehow can't exercise self control regarding females.
Older feminist models play into this by proclaiming femininity to be imposed by the patriarchy and femme presentation to be cooperation with the patriarchy.
I tend to reject these. I like my femininity, and I set my presentation for myself. My expression is my protected free speech, about me, and not some bizarre attempt to please some males. I'm also a person who agrees with much of the current trans-feminist theory, obviously... ;)